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Tpat591

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Not really a Goodman fan but excellent Ollie Presentation. March for Our Lives DC Demonstration Permits were applied for months before the shooting by producer of Dancing With The Stars!

 
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Conspiracy theories are dangerous for many reasons. Among other things, they provide a way to reduce mental distress by changing our perception of a problem without actually doing anything to solve the problem. They're the mental equivalent of a pacifier.

Spreading conspiracy theories about Trump using hidden codes to signal that he's closing in on a secret plan to break up child trafficking rings isn't just absurd — it's harmful. It lulls people into complacency & lets them feel like they're helping when they're doing nothing.

Conspiracy theories also lead to a dangerous cycle of scapegoating because the regressive logic of conspiratorial thinking can only be maintained by implicating an ever-expanding group of "conspirators" involved in the conspiracy and/or the "cover-up".

Conspiracy theories are appealing b/c they claim to provide explanations for otherwise inexplicable or uncontrollable events. But this comes at a cost. Maintaining the belief leads to 'crippled epistemology' — a rigid style of thinking that rejects disconfirming information.

Conspiracy theories serve a palliative function by allowing people to attribute external events/circumstances to some person or group, which produces a sense of control over one’s environment (b/c the risk is less random when it’s attributed to a powerful, nefarious actor).

Social motives also drive people to believe in conspiracy theories. They allow people to maintain a positive image of the self & social group by formulating their own understanding of reality. This also comes at a price. It turns the "outgroup" into an enemy.

That's where scapegoating comes in. Instead of looking for real answers to problems, people who are invested in conspiracy theories identify "enemies" and blame the problem on them. Ultimately, inflicting punishment on these "enemies" becomes the goal.

And that in turn, allows people to feel like they're solving something when in fact, all they're doing is putting a bandaid on their own mental distress. And because the bandaid stops the bleeding, people no longer feel that they need to take meaningful action.

For example: Believing in 4chan conspiracy theories about Trump secretly dismantling child trafficking rings lets people feel okay about doing nothing to end child trafficking. And it lets Trump supporters feel morally superior for "caring" about child trafficking.

(Research shows that collective narcissism and belief in conspiracy theories often go hand-in-hand. Hence the appeal of using a conspiracy theory to bolster feelings of group superiority.)

On a related note: This is also why it's harmful to believe in grand conspiracy theories about Trump's impeachment being imminent or certain. It's not. And believing that it is reduces the sense of urgency to vote & engage in other civic actions.

Society depends on trust in shared sources of knowledge. Much of what we "know" is based on the testimony of others, rather than firsthand experience or observation.

For example: Most of us have never seen Antarctica. But we know it exists b/c we trust in the knowledge & testimony of others. This is true about nearly all of our collective knowledge.

Conspiracy theories ask you to discard this trust.

Functioning societies depend on shared, socially-mediated sources of knowledge. It's the glue that holds societies together. Conspiracy theories ask us to give up more & more of our trust in each other, and in our knowledge-generating mechanisms.

Conspiracy theories come at a cost.

They ask us to give up on our trust in knowledge, in knowledge-producing institutions, and in each other.

And so ultimately, they ask us to give up on the fabric of society altogether.





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Conspiracy theories are dangerous for many reasons. Among other things, they provide a way to reduce mental distress by changing our perception of a problem without actually doing anything to solve the problem. They're the mental equivalent of a pacifier.

Spreading conspiracy theories about Trump using hidden codes to signal that he's closing in on a secret plan to break up child trafficking rings isn't just absurd — it's harmful. It lulls people into complacency & lets them feel like they're helping when they're doing nothing.

Conspiracy theories also lead to a dangerous cycle of scapegoating because the regressive logic of conspiratorial thinking can only be maintained by implicating an ever-expanding group of "conspirators" involved in the conspiracy and/or the "cover-up".

Conspiracy theories are appealing b/c they claim to provide explanations for otherwise inexplicable or uncontrollable events. But this comes at a cost. Maintaining the belief leads to 'crippled epistemology' — a rigid style of thinking that rejects disconfirming information.

Conspiracy theories serve a palliative function by allowing people to attribute external events/circumstances to some person or group, which produces a sense of control over one’s environment (b/c the risk is less random when it’s attributed to a powerful, nefarious actor).

Social motives also drive people to believe in conspiracy theories. They allow people to maintain a positive image of the self & social group by formulating their own understanding of reality. This also comes at a price. It turns the "outgroup" into an enemy.

That's where scapegoating comes in. Instead of looking for real answers to problems, people who are invested in conspiracy theories identify "enemies" and blame the problem on them. Ultimately, inflicting punishment on these "enemies" becomes the goal.

And that in turn, allows people to feel like they're solving something when in fact, all they're doing is putting a bandaid on their own mental distress. And because the bandaid stops the bleeding, people no longer feel that they need to take meaningful action.

For example: Believing in 4chan conspiracy theories about Trump secretly dismantling child trafficking rings lets people feel okay about doing nothing to end child trafficking. And it lets Trump supporters feel morally superior for "caring" about child trafficking.

(Research shows that collective narcissism and belief in conspiracy theories often go hand-in-hand. Hence the appeal of using a conspiracy theory to bolster feelings of group superiority.)

On a related note: This is also why it's harmful to believe in grand conspiracy theories about Trump's impeachment being imminent or certain. It's not. And believing that it is reduces the sense of urgency to vote & engage in other civic actions.

Society depends on trust in shared sources of knowledge. Much of what we "know" is based on the testimony of others, rather than firsthand experience or observation.

For example: Most of us have never seen Antarctica. But we know it exists b/c we trust in the knowledge & testimony of others. This is true about nearly all of our collective knowledge.

Conspiracy theories ask you to discard this trust.

Functioning societies depend on shared, socially-mediated sources of knowledge. It's the glue that holds societies together. Conspiracy theories ask us to give up more & more of our trust in each other, and in our knowledge-generating mechanisms.

Conspiracy theories come at a cost.

They ask us to give up on our trust in knowledge, in knowledge-producing institutions, and in each other.

And so ultimately, they ask us to give up on the fabric of society altogether.





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I need a link. That person is smart.
 

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Conspiracy theories are dangerous for many reasons. Among other things, they provide a way to reduce mental distress by changing our perception of a problem without actually doing anything to solve the problem. They're the mental equivalent of a pacifier.

Spreading conspiracy theories about Trump using hidden codes to signal that he's closing in on a secret plan to break up child trafficking rings isn't just absurd — it's harmful. It lulls people into complacency & lets them feel like they're helping when they're doing nothing.

Conspiracy theories also lead to a dangerous cycle of scapegoating because the regressive logic of conspiratorial thinking can only be maintained by implicating an ever-expanding group of "conspirators" involved in the conspiracy and/or the "cover-up".

Conspiracy theories are appealing b/c they claim to provide explanations for otherwise inexplicable or uncontrollable events. But this comes at a cost. Maintaining the belief leads to 'crippled epistemology' — a rigid style of thinking that rejects disconfirming information.

Conspiracy theories serve a palliative function by allowing people to attribute external events/circumstances to some person or group, which produces a sense of control over one’s environment (b/c the risk is less random when it’s attributed to a powerful, nefarious actor).

Social motives also drive people to believe in conspiracy theories. They allow people to maintain a positive image of the self & social group by formulating their own understanding of reality. This also comes at a price. It turns the "outgroup" into an enemy.

That's where scapegoating comes in. Instead of looking for real answers to problems, people who are invested in conspiracy theories identify "enemies" and blame the problem on them. Ultimately, inflicting punishment on these "enemies" becomes the goal.

And that in turn, allows people to feel like they're solving something when in fact, all they're doing is putting a bandaid on their own mental distress. And because the bandaid stops the bleeding, people no longer feel that they need to take meaningful action.

For example: Believing in 4chan conspiracy theories about Trump secretly dismantling child trafficking rings lets people feel okay about doing nothing to end child trafficking. And it lets Trump supporters feel morally superior for "caring" about child trafficking.

(Research shows that collective narcissism and belief in conspiracy theories often go hand-in-hand. Hence the appeal of using a conspiracy theory to bolster feelings of group superiority.)

On a related note: This is also why it's harmful to believe in grand conspiracy theories about Trump's impeachment being imminent or certain. It's not. And believing that it is reduces the sense of urgency to vote & engage in other civic actions.

Society depends on trust in shared sources of knowledge. Much of what we "know" is based on the testimony of others, rather than firsthand experience or observation.

For example: Most of us have never seen Antarctica. But we know it exists b/c we trust in the knowledge & testimony of others. This is true about nearly all of our collective knowledge.

Conspiracy theories ask you to discard this trust.

Functioning societies depend on shared, socially-mediated sources of knowledge. It's the glue that holds societies together. Conspiracy theories ask us to give up more & more of our trust in each other, and in our knowledge-generating mechanisms.

Conspiracy theories come at a cost.

They ask us to give up on our trust in knowledge, in knowledge-producing institutions, and in each other.

And so ultimately, they ask us to give up on the fabric of society altogether.





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Wow ...ej...are you on a a new medication to battle your ADHD.....I doubt you've ever read that many words in a whole year........


"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".
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Wow ...ej...are you on a a new medication to battle your ADHD.....I doubt you've ever read that many words in a whole year........


"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".
Jiddu Krishnamurti




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Tpat591

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Conspiracy theories are dangerous for many reasons. Among other things, they provide a way to reduce mental distress by changing our perception of a problem without actually doing anything to solve the problem. They're the mental equivalent of a pacifier.

Spreading conspiracy theories about Trump using hidden codes to signal that he's closing in on a secret plan to break up child trafficking rings isn't just absurd — it's harmful. It lulls people into complacency & lets them feel like they're helping when they're doing nothing.

Conspiracy theories also lead to a dangerous cycle of scapegoating because the regressive logic of conspiratorial thinking can only be maintained by implicating an ever-expanding group of "conspirators" involved in the conspiracy and/or the "cover-up".

Conspiracy theories are appealing b/c they claim to provide explanations for otherwise inexplicable or uncontrollable events. But this comes at a cost. Maintaining the belief leads to 'crippled epistemology' — a rigid style of thinking that rejects disconfirming information.

Conspiracy theories serve a palliative function by allowing people to attribute external events/circumstances to some person or group, which produces a sense of control over one’s environment (b/c the risk is less random when it’s attributed to a powerful, nefarious actor).

Social motives also drive people to believe in conspiracy theories. They allow people to maintain a positive image of the self & social group by formulating their own understanding of reality. This also comes at a price. It turns the "outgroup" into an enemy.

That's where scapegoating comes in. Instead of looking for real answers to problems, people who are invested in conspiracy theories identify "enemies" and blame the problem on them. Ultimately, inflicting punishment on these "enemies" becomes the goal.

And that in turn, allows people to feel like they're solving something when in fact, all they're doing is putting a bandaid on their own mental distress. And because the bandaid stops the bleeding, people no longer feel that they need to take meaningful action.

For example: Believing in 4chan conspiracy theories about Trump secretly dismantling child trafficking rings lets people feel okay about doing nothing to end child trafficking. And it lets Trump supporters feel morally superior for "caring" about child trafficking.

(Research shows that collective narcissism and belief in conspiracy theories often go hand-in-hand. Hence the appeal of using a conspiracy theory to bolster feelings of group superiority.)

On a related note: This is also why it's harmful to believe in grand conspiracy theories about Trump's impeachment being imminent or certain. It's not. And believing that it is reduces the sense of urgency to vote & engage in other civic actions.

Society depends on trust in shared sources of knowledge. Much of what we "know" is based on the testimony of others, rather than firsthand experience or observation.

For example: Most of us have never seen Antarctica. But we know it exists b/c we trust in the knowledge & testimony of others. This is true about nearly all of our collective knowledge.

Conspiracy theories ask you to discard this trust.

Functioning societies depend on shared, socially-mediated sources of knowledge. It's the glue that holds societies together. Conspiracy theories ask us to give up more & more of our trust in each other, and in our knowledge-generating mechanisms.

Conspiracy theories come at a cost.

They ask us to give up on our trust in knowledge, in knowledge-producing institutions, and in each other.

And so ultimately, they ask us to give up on the fabric of society altogether.





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Or, you really went out of your way to justify why it is important to hide a series of presentations of factual evidence indicating your government is killing people to take guns away because an honest examination of facts leads to only one inescapable conclusion. An inconvenient truth that your reality is not what some would strive so hard to have you believe.
 

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Or, you really went out of your way to justify why it is important to hide a series of presentations of factual evidence indicating your government is killing people to take guns away because an honest examination of facts leads to only one inescapable conclusion. An inconvenient truth that your reality is not what some would strive so hard to have you believe.

Hahaha.... right!
It’s a cycle bro...


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Or, you really went out of your way to justify why it is important to hide a series of presentations of factual evidence indicating your government is killing people to take guns away because an honest examination of facts leads to only one inescapable conclusion. An inconvenient truth that your reality is not what some would strive so hard to have you believe.

Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a bunch of malarkey.

The 4chan/storm shit is the other side of the liberals antifa/racist dog whistle conspiracy bullshit.

It's a bunch of fucking wackadoodles making the rest of us look stupid.

Sorry Pat, those stupid ass false flag conspiracy theories do to the rest of us on the right what David Koresh and other "Christian" doomsayers do for Christians.

That stupid shit ain't fucking helping.
 
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Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a bunch of malarkey.

The 4chan/storm shit is the other side of the liberals antifa/racist dog whistle conspiracy bullshit.

It's a bunch of fucking wackadoodles making the rest of us look stupid.

Sorry Pat, those stupid ass false flag conspiracy theories do to the rest of us on the right what David Koresh and other "Christian" doomsayers do for Christians.

That stupid shit ain't fucking helping.
Bullshit. The evidence is irrefutable if it is objectively examined. That is why the videos are yanked from the internet. If they were a bunch of whackadoodles, they wouldn't hide the information by removing it, they would simply expose it as false it was if that was the case. They can't because the laws of physics prove them wrong every time so they scrub the the videos from the internet so people cannot educate themselves.

You are in denial. You still believe a 747 flew into the Pentagon at a speeds over 180mph greater than when the wings would have torn off the damn thing due to exceeding it structural limits on an impossible approach and the automatic missile dense systems installed there conveniently were never activated to shoot it down before it could. No pilot could have flown that approach in that plane and no wreckage matching that particular plane was ever found. Sell your bullshit to someone else.

A plane hitting the WTC at the speeds on 9-11 would have crushed like a beer can outside the building with essentially only the engines and some fuel penetrating. Buildings that are not hit by planes do not spontaneously fall down at freefall speeds mimicking a controlled demolition because of a paper fire. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt structural steel into lava. Vans that drive over and kill dozens of people get damaged and have blood spattered on them,yet the Barcelona van was pristine. Sneakers do not stay neatly on the ground in place when someone is run over by a car. Helicopter pilots in Charlottesville to not show up to the crash site to watch their own bodies burn in the wreckage. Medics in Las Vegas do not wheel a crash test dummy around in a wheelbarrow while under AR-15 fire and real victims are dropping like flies around them. People pictured at up to four separate false flag events with different names and backgrounds are not just monumentally unlucky; they are Crisis actors. Multiple AR15 wounds do not miraculously heal in a week so a person with shrapnel still embedded in their skull can walk into a studio and do an interview on CNN.

I used to think you were intelligent. Now I realize you are hopelessly in denial at best.
 
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I used to think you were intelligent.

I'm intelligent enough to not believe bullshit internet fucktards and youtubers.

Just like I'm intelligent enough to not join the Branch Davidians, Scientology or any other fucktarded Jim Jones type cult that offers their cult members so called "irrefutable facts" found in Prophesies, Psychology or other fucktarded twists of reality.

Pat, you are a follower. No different than a cult follower. As a follower, you are subject to believe the unbelievable. That's what followers do. Even the ones that should know better. For fuck sake, you advocate for a secret takeover of the government. How fucking brainwashed do you need to be to think that the military should take over the government and voting booths?

fol·low·er
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noun
noun: follower; plural noun: followers
1
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an adherent or devotee of a particular person, cause, or activity.

I still prefer to think for myself and not follow a 4chan or any other "group" like a fucking lemming.
 

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I'm intelligent enough to not believe bullshit internet fucktards and youtubers.

Just like I'm intelligent enough to not join the Branch Davidians, Scientology or any other fucktarded Jim Jones type cult that offers their cult members so called "irrefutable facts" found in Prophesies, Psychology or other fucktarded twists of reality.

Pat, you are a follower. No different than a cult follower. As a follower, you are subject to believe the unbelievable. That's what followers do. Even the ones that should know better. For fuck sake, you advocate for a secret takeover of the government. How fucking brainwashed do you need to be to think that the military should take over the government and voting booths?

fol·low·er
ˈfälōər/
noun
noun: follower; plural noun: followers
1
.
an adherent or devotee of a particular person, cause, or activity.

I still prefer to think for myself and not follow a 4chan or any other "group" like a fucking lemming.
If you consider denying a mountain of evidence even exists as "thinking for yourself", rather than examining it, I'm glad that is working out for you. Enjoy.
 
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Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a bunch of malarkey.

The 4chan/storm shit is the other side of the liberals antifa/racist dog whistle conspiracy bullshit.

It's a bunch of fucking wackadoodles making the rest of us look stupid.

Sorry Pat, those stupid ass false flag conspiracy theories do to the rest of us on the right what David Koresh and other "Christian" doomsayers do for Christians.

That stupid shit ain't fucking helping.
20 years ago if you said that the ANC were not well meaning liberal egalitarians working for racial harmony in South Africa, but were indeed bloodthirsty racist bent on genocide of whites in South Africa you would have been called a tinfoil hat wearing alt-right wakaddodle., by every News outlet,University, or any other intellectual or moral insitution on the planet....today the genocide is immenint and Australia is one of the only countries in the world offering any hope to avert a white genocide.and everything so called conspiracy theorist predicted would happen in south africa has come true...hell it's far more apparent than even that if you look at the plans of cultural marxist laid out over half a century ago their plans have been realized like clock work....Conspiracy is just logical..it is a fient, a con job, a way to avoid signaling your intent from your mark...any thinking person would hide their motivations before the time was ripe for action....and at this point in time I can't imagine any thinking person who does not believe that the motivation of their goverment is to supress and bleed their citizens for any and every thing they can....if this was all nonsense goolag and youtube would not need to censor people....
 
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I'm intelligent enough to not believe bullshit internet fucktards and youtubers.

Just like I'm intelligent enough to not join the Branch Davidians, Scientology or any other fucktarded Jim Jones type cult that offers their cult members so called "irrefutable facts" found in Prophesies, Psychology or other fucktarded twists of reality.

Pat, you are a follower. No different than a cult follower. As a follower, you are subject to believe the unbelievable. That's what followers do. Even the ones that should know better. For fuck sake, you advocate for a secret takeover of the government. How fucking brainwashed do you need to be to think that the military should take over the government and voting booths?

fol·low·er
ˈfälōər/
noun
noun: follower; plural noun: followers
1
.
an adherent or devotee of a particular person, cause, or activity.

I still prefer to think for myself and not follow a 4chan or any other "group" like a fucking lemming.
cool..I agree, but the Branch Davidians regardless of how silly you might find them,did nothing to deserve the federal goverment to send the FBI to murderer them and their childeren.....dude most psycopaths are amazingly intelligent people...they don't leave shit to chance....look at serial killers look at how well planned and intricate their thinking is, how long they are able to committ their crimes and remain free.sometimes for decades some serial killers never get caught through their entire lives....why do you find it so unbelievable that the same kind of fucked up minds who start wars ...are so far removed from a serial killer,but with a helluva alot more resources at their disposal.
 

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Bullshit. The evidence is irrefutable if it is objectively examined. That is why the videos are yanked from the internet. If they were a bunch of whackadoodles, they wouldn't hide the information by removing it, they would simply expose it as false it was if that was the case. They can't because the laws of physics prove them wrong every time so they scrub the the videos from the internet so people cannot educate themselves.

You are in denial. You still believe a 747 flew into the Pentagon at a speeds over 180mph greater than when the wings would have torn off the damn thing due to exceeding it structural limits on an impossible approach and the automatic missile dense systems installed there conveniently were never activated to shoot it down before it could. No pilot could have flown that approach in that plane and no wreckage matching that particular plane was ever found. Sell your bullshit to someone else.

A plane hitting the WTC at the speeds on 9-11 would have crushed like a beer can outside the building with essentially only the engines and some fuel penetrating. Buildings that are not hit by planes do not spontaneously fall down at freefall speeds mimicking a controlled demolition because of a paper fire. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt structural steel into lava. Vans that drive over and kill dozens of people get damaged and have blood spattered on them,yet the Barcelona van was pristine. Sneakers do not stay neatly on the ground in place when someone is run over by a car. Helicopter pilots in Charlottesville to not show up to the crash site to watch their own bodies burn in the wreckage. Medics in Las Vegas do not wheel a crash test dummy around in a wheelbarrow while under AR-15 fire and real victims are dropping like flies around them. People pictured at up to four separate false flag events with different names and backgrounds are not just monumentally unlucky; they are Crisis actors. Multiple AR15 wounds do not miraculously heal in a week so a person with shrapnel still embedded in their skull can walk into a studio and do an interview on CNN.

I used to think you were intelligent. Now I realize you are hopelessly in denial at best.
Yeah if these theroies were simply nonsense the elite of the planet would not be calling for the censorship of their content they would offer proof of the "obvious" ridiculouness of them, but they can't so they do not allow them to be seen....
 

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If you consider denying a mountain of evidence even exists as "thinking for yourself", rather than examining it, I'm glad that is working out for you. Enjoy.

LOL.

I have read/listened to the shit you post. It's garbage. For fuck sake, the one pod cast talked about how there are three or four Q's and only one real one. Do you not realize that they do that so that you'll still believe? Oh no, Q isn't wrong. When the "real" Q posts something that kinda sorta comes true it's the real Q. But when it turns out to be 100% bullshit, it's the fake Q's. Come on. Oh, and if we solve the real Q's riddle, we get invited into a secret group. Yep.

And I know how it's working out for you. I've made bets with you and I have not lost one yet. One of us is consistantly correct, the other is not. So, I think it's working out great for me.
 

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LOL.

I have read/listened to the shit you post. It's garbage. For fuck sake, the one pod cast talked about how there are three or four Q's and only one real one. Do you not realize that they do that so that you'll still believe? Oh no, Q isn't wrong. When the "real" Q posts something that kinda sorta comes true it's the real Q. But when it turns out to be 100% bullshit, it's the fake Q's. Come on. Oh, and if we solve the real Q's riddle, we get invited into a secret group. Yep.

And I know how it's working out for you. I've made bets with you and I have not lost one yet. One of us is consistantly correct, the other is not. So, I think it's working out great for me.
So, what do you think George Soros is doing...do you actually think he some misguided ex-nazi bitch boy who is using his fortunes( which he accumulated as a result of human suffering) to atone for his past sins and is funding the invasion of europe by muslims and africans becuase he wants to help them...or is he creating chaos in order to reap the profits of chaos just as he watched others in his childhood during WWII reap profits from war.
 

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cool..I agree, but the Branch Davidians regardless of how silly you might find them,did nothing to deserve the federal goverment to send the FBI to murderer them and their childeren.....dude most psycopaths are amazingly intelligent people...they don't leave shit to chance....look at serial killers look at how well planned and intricate their thinking is, how long they are able to committ their crimes and remain free.sometimes for decades some serial killers never get caught through their entire lives....why do you find it so unbelievable that the same kind of fucked up minds who start wars ...are so far removed from a serial killer,but with a helluva alot more resources at their disposal.

Serial killers act alone. No one to tell on them. :)

These fucktarded false flag conspiracies require a very large number of people being aware and in cahoots and still keep it secret. That's ridiculous on it's face. ;)

Besides, most of us believe that the youngsters now-a-days are seriously socially ill. It's pretty easy to believe the sick fucks go on shooting sprees. Or even older sick fucks.

So, if I'm to believe all these false flag claims then I must be wrong about a sick society because sick fucks are not doing mass shootings, the government is. I don't think I'm wrong about a sick society. :p
 

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So, what do you think George Soros is doing...do you actually think he some misguided ex-nazi bitch boy who is using his fortunes( which he accumulated as a result of human suffering) to atone for his past sins and is funding the invasion of europe by muslims and africans becuase he wants to help them...or is he creating chaos in order to reap the profits of chaos just as he watched others in his childhood during WWII reap profits from war.

Soros is funding government influence, both directly with politicians and indirectly through useful idiots(Move on, etc). It's not a conspiracy theory, it's an open fact.

I'm not sure what that has to do with secret FBI school shootings and the world trade center? o_O
 

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It's not a conspiracy

This sums up a lot of what goes on today. So much is out in the open and not covered up it makes the cloak and dagger shit seem kinda pointless.

I do have issues with a lot of the official stories. Paddock pulling off those shootings, 911 pilots with no flying experience doing stunts with a 747... a lot of it is hard to swollow. But so is a great deal of the conspiracy shit.
 

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Serial killers act alone. No one to tell on them. :)

These fucktarded false flag conspiracies require a very large number of people being aware and in cahoots and still keep it secret. That's ridiculous on it's face. ;)

Besides, most of us believe that the youngsters now-a-days are seriously socially ill. It's pretty easy to believe the sick fucks go on shooting sprees. Or even older sick fucks.

So, if I'm to believe all these false flag claims then I must be wrong about a sick society because sick fucks are not doing mass shootings, the government is. I don't think I'm wrong about a sick society. :p
like the military like the intelligence community things are done on a a need to know basis...the people in these communities accept that, they operate daily under that culture, they don't question their orders they have told themselves it is their duty....as I have pointed out before look at the Mafia..the Mafia operated in Sicily long before it came to the US for centuries under the code of Omerta, silence.and to this day the mafia has not had it's back broken..oh sure it has had people arrested, but it did not kill them....trying to conquer a people takes too much wealth and human resources to supress them...the ideal situation is to get the people to want their chains, to want the lash....to want their oppresive laws to want the Patriot act to want gun control....they started a war to pass the patriot act...JP morgan started a bank run and destroyed tens of thousands of people to corrall the so called educated people into wanting the Federal Reserve Act, and even then they had to do it under the cloak of darkness.The only flaw I find with the logic of false flags is..if the elite want to manipulate the masses why stage a "false flag" why not stage real massacres, obviously human life means nothing to them. why bother using blanks.
 

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Soros is funding government influence, both directly with politicians and indirectly through useful idiots(Move on, etc). It's not a conspiracy theory, it's an open fact.

I'm not sure what that has to do with secret FBI school shootings and the world trade center? o_O
yes it is a conspiracy..... Soros does not openly claim his goals, or motives.. he shields his real goals,and motives, behind virtue signaling clap trap he wouldn't be open about his intentions if you put a gun to his head, no more than the people who want so called "reasonable gun control" when everybody in the world knows that they are using the word "reasonab;e" as a way of boiling the frog ...the endgame is total disarmement of the citizens....you seriously can't think for a minute that that bullshit march for our lives was a grassroots movment of people...that was a staged well funded piece of astroturffing...who paid for it?
 

pulsevape

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This sums up a lot of what goes on today. So much is out in the open and not covered up it makes the cloak and dagger shit seem kinda pointless.

I do have issues with a lot of the official stories. Paddock pulling off those shootings, 911 pilots with no flying experience doing stunts with a 747... a lot of it is hard to swollow. But so is a great deal of the conspiracy shit.
of course.... it is the same people who actual create the conspiracy who create bullshit conspiracy theroies in order to discredit legitamte threats...and make people think that anything outside CNN is "crazy"
 

Tpat591

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like the military like the intelligence community things are done on a a need to know basis...the people in these communities accept that, they operate daily under that culture, they don't question their orders they have told themselves it is their duty....as I have pointed out before look at the Mafia..the Mafia operated in Sicily long before it came to the US for centuries under the code of Omerta, silence.and to this day the mafia has not had it's back broken..oh sure it has had people arrested, but it did not kill them....trying to conquer a people takes too much wealth and human resources to supress them...the ideal situation is to get the people to want their chains, to want the lash....to want their oppresive laws to want the Patriot act to want gun control....they started a war to pass the patriot act...JP morgan started a bank run and destroyed tens of thousands of people to corrall the so called educated people into wanting the Federal Reserve Act, and even then they had to do it under the cloak of darkness.The only flaw I find with the logic of false flags is..if the elite want to manipulate the masses why stage a "false flag" why not stage real massacres, obviously human life means nothing to them. why bother using blanks.
False Flag does not necessarily mean they always use blanks, it means the event is not what it seems or is reported to be to mislead or influence the public.
 

Tpat591

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of course.... it is the same people who actual create the conspiracy who create bullshit conspiracy theroies in order to discredit legitamte threats...and make people think that anything outside CNN is "crazy"
And CCN is so far off the rails they are challenging reality itself as a conspiracy theory. They are testing how far they can push an educated populace before they rebel and respond.
 

Time

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like the military like the intelligence community things are done on a a need to know basis...the people in these communities accept that, they operate daily under that culture, they don't question their orders they have told themselves it is their duty....

Snowden.

Manning.

Plus a host of others.

There goes that theory. :p
 

pulsevape

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Soros is funding government influence, both directly with politicians and indirectly through useful idiots(Move on, etc). It's not a conspiracy theory, it's an open fact.

I'm not sure what that has to do with secret FBI school shootings and the world trade center? o_O
Look at that little psycopath dipshit Hogg...look at him...there is nothing genuine about him...their is nothing one would expect from someone who had undergone any sort of trauma...even hardened soldiers when faced with the death of their fellows are more devestated despite the fact they are in a war zone they are confused and perplexed why their friend died, they are griefstricken, rambeling ,confused,,,their emotions overwhelm their logic they try and piece their world back together again...not this little turd..no confusion from someone who has never seen senseless violence probablly never been in a fist fight, no genuine grief, no pain, no mumbeling, no sense of, being overwhelmed with fear or pain, or loss ..nope from day one...cool collected articulate, on point laser like clear message ..he read like a fucking script from a daytime melodrama it;s like watching fucking "Days of our Lives"...you can not honestly tell me you buy his line of bullshit.
 
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