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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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pulsevape

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yeah well see as an american I have more intrest in lifting my nieghbor out of poverty, I'm more interested in the upward mobility of the guy next door not the guy across the globe, now I knwo my senator is intrested in his upward mobility and so he passes laws and implements policies that are good for globalist shitheads and some guy in vietnam gets a few crumbs...great dandy but you see I'm looking for a goverment that looks after my intrests...now I'm not so fucking stupid that I think the globalist give a fuck about lifting the millions out of poverty to the lofty hieghts of near poverty, and leave an enviormental disaster in their wake...this is not susatinable development of either the third world or a susatainable economic plan for the developing world this just fucking piracy in pinstripes, and dressing it up as something more is a bullshit smoke screen..
 
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pulsevape

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yeah I saw this...Everybody knows the left is violent...the left has to immigrate uneducated poor third worlders into America in order to win elections...the only problem the DNC has with America is Americans.
And yet after the violence of Occupy Wall Street and the Soros funded violence of BLM...the media in America is trying to sell this myth by this Goebbles like propoganda blitz, that somehow Trump is dangerous, that Trump's supporters are violent....hey I really don't care who you vote for but use your your fucking head and acknowledge how the media is creating a false narritive.
 

steamer861

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First Off I'm Canadian So my opinion is my own, I can't vote for your president, But like everyone else I have an opinion :)
The way I see it, the American President is for Sale! to the highest bidder/ campaign contributor! Thats Wrong on so many levels.
Why are all you Americans not saying I'm sick & tired of the top 1% making all the money, While the rest of America gets poorer :(
For me it's pretty easy to see that if I 1% Ahole contribute millions to a Candidate I want a return on my investment!
It's a good thing you Americans Have so many Guns! Your going to need them to get your Country back after Trump is finished with You :(

 

Rossum

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Why are all you Americans not saying I'm sick & tired of the top 1% making all the money, While the rest of America gets poorer :(
Because most Americans don't have a problem with people who've gotten "rich" using honest means, and they realize that the top 1% pay more in taxes than the bottom 90%.

For me it's pretty easy to see that if I 1% Ahole contribute millions to a Candidate I want a return on my investment!
In order to for someone to be in a position to throw millions at a candidate, they need be a whole lot better off than the average 1%er.
 

pulsevape

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First Off I'm Canadian So my opinion is my own, I can't vote for your president, But like everyone else I have an opinion :)
The way I see it, the American President is for Sale! to the highest bidder/ campaign contributor! Thats Wrong on so many levels.
Why are all you Americans not saying I'm sick & tired of the top 1% making all the money, While the rest of America gets poorer :(
For me it's pretty easy to see that if I 1% Ahole contribute millions to a Candidate I want a return on my investment!
It's a good thing you Americans Have so many Guns! Your going to need them to get your Country back after Trump is finished with You :(

This is fucking rich!..you Canadaians just elected Trudeau's son...and you don't think your PM is for sale? Or is it you guys just never weaned yourself off of knuckeling your forelocks to the aristocracy...Trudeaus fucking kid? eh...the new monarchy..LOL..you are even more delsusional than the Obamagirl.
 

pulsevape

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We all have guns cause we are gonna take over Canada if shit goes bad .

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why most of the country is uninabitable..hell something like 90% of them live within 100 miles of the US.
 

steamer861

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Because most Americans don't have a problem with people who've gotten "rich" using honest means, and they realize that the top 1% pay more in taxes than the bottom 90%.


In order to for someone to be in a position to throw millions at a candidate, they need be a whole lot better off than the average 1%er.

So let me ask you This! Are you all right with Philip Morris Contributing Millions, to influence legislation To keep you smoking?

Got rich Honestly ROFLMAO :)
 

pulsevape

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First Off I'm Canadian So my opinion is my own, I can't vote for your president, But like everyone else I have an opinion :)
The way I see it, the American President is for Sale! to the highest bidder/ campaign contributor! Thats Wrong on so many levels.
Why are all you Americans not saying I'm sick & tired of the top 1% making all the money, While the rest of America gets poorer :(
For me it's pretty easy to see that if I 1% Ahole contribute millions to a Candidate I want a return on my investment!
It's a good thing you Americans Have so many Guns! Your going to need them to get your Country back after Trump is finished with You :(

really you go to washed up old comedians whose careers have tanked desperately trying to stay in the public eye by committing adolescent acts of bathroom humor for political discourse......yeah now we know how Trudeau's brat got elected.
 

steamer861

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I don't want this to turn into a Shit Storm! I said my piece :)
Trudeau Is all ready doing the right thing, Spending money, Thats what you do in a down economy .
His Father was our best Prime minister in the last 50 years :)
Again i said my piece If you Americans think it good to let the top 1% buy your politicians to influence policies Carry On :)
 

pulsevape

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I don't want this to turn into a Shit Storm! I said my piece :)
Trudeau Is all ready doing the right thing, Spending money, Thats what you do in a down economy .
His Father was our best Prime minister in the last 50 years :)
Again i said my piece If you Americans think it good to let the top 1% buy your politicians to influence policies Carry On :)

Yeah out of a country of 35 million you just happen to elect the son of your last ruler...what a coincidence...you are delusional.

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KY_Rob

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What amazes me most, and I'll use a personal experience example, is the complete batshit crazy stupidity of people. So, maybe someone can explain this to me.

I grew up in a Union family, thus Democrat. As a young boy and up to early adult, the barn talk(large extended horse family, we always would hang out in the barn and bullshit while working) was often political. My Union Democrat Dad, Grandfather, Uncles and cousins would bitch about illegal immigrants. The Republicans won't do anything about them because most farmers are Repubs and they like the cheap labor, they'd say. And it was true. The R's did not want immigration reform and we still don't have it. All Union Dems complained about the lost jobs, lower wages.

Most of those people are still alive. They have kids that have to compete with immigrants and it isn't working out. How the hell did they switch from a anti-immigration party to a pro-immigration party? To be fair, my Dad saw the light and left the party. But, most have not. How the hell do you forget what you believed 25 years ago especially when what you feared would happen came to be? They are still Dims and now the pro-immigration party.

I have other examples too, like trade, but the immigration one is plain and simple.

I understand the big view as above, but I have never been able to wrap my head around these individual issues. How can otherwise decent people be so batshit crazy? They can't have forgotten the issues then, the problem is the same. I don't see how it's possible to get people to see the big picture when they can't even see that they are now supporting the very thing they knew, years ago, was going to hurt them. What they thought would happen, did happen. And now they are cool with it.

That is a part of the human experience I don't get. I'm fucking baffled.

Otherwise decent people become batshit crazy, because they believe the media, and aren't willing to be objective. People make up their minds, and nothing, not even the blatant truth, will likely change it. The media has been nothing more than a corporation looking to make the biggest profit. The media sells ads to make money. Ad dollars increase as viewership increases. How does viewership increase? Sensationalism, and spin! If you don't like what you're hearing on one channel, that's ok, there's another down the dial that is preaching what you want to hear! Plenty-o-dollars to go around for whatever agenda spends the most!
 

Rossum

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why most of the country is uninabitable..hell something like 90% of them live within 100 miles of the US.
Not to live there, silly; just to take their stuff, and they've got a lot of good stuff: Oil, timber, other natural resources, and hot women, especially in Montreal/Quebec.
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Time

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Otherwise decent people become batshit crazy, because they believe the media, and aren't willing to be objective. People make up their minds, and nothing, not even the blatant truth, will likely change it. The media has been nothing more than a corporation looking to make the biggest profit. The media sells ads to make money. Ad dollars increase as viewership increases. How does viewership increase? Sensationalism, and spin! If you don't like what you're hearing on one channel, that's ok, there's another down the dial that is preaching what you want to hear! Plenty-o-dollars to go around for whatever agenda spends the most!

Yeah, I get that and it is a large part of it. I just don't get it on an individual level. One on one with a Dem I can say the very thing they said, not that long ago, about illegal immigration and trade and even tell them they said it and they won't admit the words that came out of their own mouths. It baffles me.
 

Rossum

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Trudeau Is all ready doing the right thing, Spending money, Thats what you do in a down economy
The Keynes is strong in this one. :rolleyes:

Again i said my piece If you Americans think it good to let the top 1% buy your politicians to influence policies Carry On :)
Yet you seem to have an aversion to the one candidate that actually has a shot at this who can't be bought. :confused:
 

steamer861

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Not to live there, silly; just to take their stuff, and they've got a lot of good stuff: Oil, timber, other natural resources, and hot women, especially in Montreal/Quebec.
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I was going to let it go. But When Ross has to stoop to low blows I know I hit a Nerve :)
I know even with all your intelligence your hard pressed to counter my argument, But lets try to keep it civil :)

The Keynes is strong in this one. :rolleyes:


Yet you seem to have an aversion to the one candidate that actually has a shot at this who can't be bought. :confused:

So You want to tell everyone here why your freezer is stocked up with Nic? Maybe your all ready afraid that Big Tobacco Has enough "influence" to take it away from You!
Funny how that works, even though vaping is better for you, BT don't care, they would rather see you Die than not buy any more of there Cigarettes!
These are the folks who can afford to heavily "influence" your law makers.
I'l quote the Grateful Dead. The Rich man in his summer home Singing Just leave well enough Alone :)
Votes are more powerful than Bullets! Show the top 1%'ers You have had it with the Status Quoe
 
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Rossum

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Show the top 1%'ers You have had it with the Status Quoe
You're conflating two groups: Those who've done well economically, and what I'll refer to as the "ruling class". Is there an overlap between the two? Yes, there is, but it's nowhere near as big as you think.

Change that to "Show the ruling class you have had it with the status quo" and I'm with you.
 

Time

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So You want to tell everyone here why your freezer is stocked up with Nic? Maybe your all ready afraid that Big Tobacco Has enough "influence" to take it away from You!

No, my freezer is stocked with nic because it's untaxed and I won't have to, in the near future, pay a tax on nic that is an attempt to get me to pay for the Keynesian debt this country is running up.
 

Rossum

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I was going to let it go. But When Ross has to stoop to low blows I know I hit a Nerve :)
Just so there's no room for misunderstanding, my comment that we (the US) should come and take your (the Canadians') stuff was made entirely tongue-in-cheek.

So You want to tell everyone here why your freezer is stocked up with Nic?
Because the ruling class keeps talking about making it difficult to obtain (at worst) or taxing the snot out of it (at best).

Maybe your all ready afraid that Big Tobacco Has enough "influence" to take it away from You!
Big tobacco would have no influence w/o the crooked politicians that voters keep electing.

Votes are more powerful that Bullets!
Are you sure?
 

Time

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To top it off, there is no indication that Ass Bern has any inclination to promote vaping or fight vaping regulation. I didn't see his endorsement on the bill to halt FDA regulation.
 

Time

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Show the top 1%'ers You have had it with the Status Quoe

I am. By voting for Trump. Ass Bern's idea of taking the power from the rich 1% and giving it to the Government 1% doesn't work for me.

It still leaves me out of the loop, and, paying for it!
 

steamer861

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Big tobacco would have no influence w/o the crooked politicians that voters keep electing.

Isn't this my Point? Right now there seems to be a candidate who is bucking the crooked politician trend, Why not vote for Him ? While your at it why not clean out the Senate too :)
 

Time

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Isn't this my Point? Right now there seems to be a candidate who is bucking the crooked politician trend, Why not vote for Him ? While your at it why not clean out the Senate too :)

Again, I am. Ass Bern is one of two that doesn't take money. Trump is the other. Ass Bern would hand my money, policy and etc. to the government, which is no different than favoring the rich 1%. Trump is way closer to letting me keep the money, policies, and etc, under my control.
 

steamer861

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Again, I am. Ass Bern is one of two that doesn't take money. Trump is the other. Ass Bern would hand my money, policy and etc. to the government, which is no different than favoring the rich 1%. Trump is way closer to letting me keep the money, policies, and etc, under my control.

Trump loaned 10 million to his campaign! Loop hole! Who will pay back this loan? I'm sure you will find out later if he gets Elected :)
 

Time

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Trump loaned 10 million to his campaign! Loop hole! Who will pay back this loan? I'm sure you will find out later if he gets Elected :)

Speculation is fun.

Maybe it won't be paid back, he can handle the loss. Write it off at tax time, maybe. I dunno.

Maybe when he wins the nomination, regular people will donate, like Ass Bern's people for the General election and there will be enough to pay it. I dunno.

He was asked about it. Paraphrasing, he said, Yeah, that's how the lawyers did it, I leave that to them.
 

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While I will be voting for Trump (Unless the GOP totally disregards our votes in the primaries) I will add this for any died in the wool democrat who cannot be swayed to vote for the "Light Side" of the force.

Vote for Ass Burn rather than the "Evil Bitch Monster From Hell"!
 

pulsevape

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Isn't this my Point? Right now there seems to be a candidate who is bucking the crooked politician trend, Why not vote for Him ? While your at it why not clean out the Senate too :)
do you read newspapers or try and stay aware of world events?...the democrat socialist economies of europe are going down in flames in europe one after the other...the great socialist experiment in Venezuela has left the people starving and surprise surprise has left Chavez's daughter the richest woman in Venezuela....socialisim is a tired worn out bankrupt economic philosiphy hell even the third world think it's retro....bucking the trend I don't know how old you are,but alot of us have listened to the idiotic socialist shilling for half a century and haven't seen it do anything other than crush people's freedoms and leave nations desitute....fairytales don't feed people.

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Zamazam

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It's no big secret the GOP is going balls to the wall for a contested primary. They know Trump's momentum can't be fully halted, even with delegate siphoning from Kaisch. Kaisch's bid is mathematically impossible at this point and everyone knows it. What I see happening is a brokered convention if Trump can't gain the delegates needed to win outright, it's a real possibility as hundred of millions are being poured into the media, professional protest groups, and other skulduggery not being discussed in the media, but by the media. I believe the GOP will parachute a candidate like Ryan into the mix during the convention. Ryan says he's not running, but he said that about the speaker position he's in a number of times before he accepted it. The GOP Hates Trump to his bones, they hate Cruz almost as much, and Kaisch is just a diversion and a delegate Siphon. Trump stands a good chance at getting the nomination, however if he goes independent, I think he still stands a chance. That's how sick America's voters are with both parties and their secret room power brokers and king makers.
 

Time

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Obummer sez; 'Trumps plan to make Mexico pay for the wall would increase immigration as Mexico's economy sinks.' Paraphrased.

Um no, there will be a fucking wall to stop the immigration, dummy.
 

pulsevape

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Yes but in all fairness Time..remember this is the smartest man to ever sit in the whitehouse..in all of the 57 states, this is the man who thought a video with 139 views caused the bengahzi attacks,that ISIS was caused by global warming and unemployment...lies not logic is his strong point.
 

pulsevape

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It's no big secret the GOP is going balls to the wall for a contested primary. They know Trump's momentum can't be fully halted, even with delegate siphoning from Kaisch. Kaisch's bid is mathematically impossible at this point and everyone knows it. What I see happening is a brokered convention if Trump can't gain the delegates needed to win outright, it's a real possibility as hundred of millions are being poured into the media, professional protest groups, and other skulduggery not being discussed in the media, but by the media. I believe the GOP will parachute a candidate like Ryan into the mix during the convention. Ryan says he's not running, but he said that about the speaker position he's in a number of times before he accepted it. The GOP Hates Trump to his bones, they hate Cruz almost as much, and Kaisch is just a diversion and a delegate Siphon. Trump stands a good chance at getting the nomination, however if he goes independent, I think he still stands a chance. That's how sick America's voters are with both parties and their secret room power brokers and king makers.
they'll give it to Cruz....
 

Arthur

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No they will give it too hillary...they want their status not whats best for the country they would rather loose then be exposed . The Republicans have given everything Owebamma wanted the gave no resistance to anything only hot air . The game is rigged in both parties

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You know the old saying about not discussing Religion and Politics? Well this is one of those places I feel you should not discuss this kind of political discussion.

But which candidate is FOR VAPING? :anyone:
 

pulsevape

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You know the old saying about not discussing Religion and Politics? Well this is one of those places I feel you should not discuss this kind of political discussion.

But which candidate is FOR VAPING? :anyone:
did you bother reading the heading of this thread...this is a political thread....we are here for the express purpose of discussing politics. as for vaping the fight to shut down vaping across america is being done by the democrat party....so that gives you a good idea which candidates are for vaping.
 

pulsevape

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No they will give it too hillary...they want their status not whats best for the country they would rather loose then be exposed . The Republicans have given everything Owebamma wanted the gave no resistance to anything only hot air . The game is rigged in both parties

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as far as I can tell Cruz is the staus quo...with a bible.
 

SteveS45

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did you bother reading the heading of this thread...this is a political thread....we are here for the express purpose of discussing politics. as for vaping the fight to shut down vaping across america is being done by the democrat party....so that gives you a good idea which candidates are for vaping.

Yes I did read and I offered my opinion............. Don't like what I had to say in this political discussion? :wtf:
 

Arthur

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I think no matter what you think about Cruz he has stood for what he was elected for . He is a person that does what he says in my opinion .

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SteveS45

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so your opinion is that we don't talk politics on a political thread? Is that about right?

No my opinion was to Not Talk Politics for the exact reason that your comments are proving so eloquently. See you want to argue a difference of opinion. I made one comment you do not agree with and your arguing politics.
 

Time

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Yes but in all fairness Time..remember this is the smartest man to ever sit in the whitehouse..in all of the 57 states, this is the man who thought a video with 139 views caused the bengahzi attacks,that ISIS was caused by global warming and unemployment...lies not logic is his strong point.

That's true.

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pulsevape

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No my opinion was to Not Talk Politics for the exact reason that your comments are proving so eloquently. See you want to argue a difference of opinion. I made one comment you do not agree with and your arguing politics.
no I'm not argueing politics.with you .I'm trying to fathom your logic of not talking politics on a politiacl thread..illuminate me.
 
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