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pulsevape

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my daughters doctor is a mooslim and her dentist is a jew. they can stay but the rest, on to the trains with you.
I'm looking forward to watching YOU try that...
Was not an idiotic assumption, what was idiotic was the meme and all your responses to me. Oh shit, my soy latte is ready...
you were the only one who had trouble understanding it...it says more about you than anything else.
 

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Was not an idiotic assumption, what was idiotic was the meme and all your responses to me. Oh shit, my soy latte is ready...
your nonsensical worldview has a living lab.... the lab is called euorpe.....look at europe...see how well their experiment with trying assimilate muslims into western socities has gone it has been an unmitigated disaster...but hey put your fingers back in your ears and keep mouthing your narrsistic egalitarin bullshit.....
 
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LOL good one.
Do you think that Trump knew where it was either?

He prolly thought it was one of the Marx brothers.

Trump IS the most ignorant president ever about world affairs.

Not only did Trump know where it was, he knew it was under ISIS control and would fall to Assad. He was correct, ISIS controlled Aleppo fell to Assad forces.

If I remember correctly, he said this during a debate and of course the dumb fuck media laughed about it.

Johnson was asked about Aleppo, as were all candidates, because it was a hot topic at the time given that Assad was trying to take it back.
 

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your nonsensical worldview has a living lab.... the lab is called euorpe.....look at europe...see how well their experiment with trying assimilate muslims into western socities has gone it has been an unmitigated disaster...but hey put your fingers back in your ears and keep mouthing your narrsistic egalitarin bullshit.....

Ok pulsey.
 

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Personally I believe if we made Government Social Programs such as Immigration, Welfare, Public Education or scholarship programs elective on IRS Forms it would solve the whole argument. Foreign aid to Isreal or other countries should be on the same elective basis.

That way virtue signaling liberals can check a box to volunteer to sponsor a Muslim, Mexican or other immigrant of their very own, pay for their proper vetting, immigration fees, transportation, bring them into their home, feed them, pay for their education, ensure they comply with the law and assimilate into society.

Conservatives can just opt out.

Willing to bet the immigration rates would drop drastically.

Everybody's happy!
 
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Personally I believe if we made Government Social Programs such as Immigration, Welfare, or scholarship programs elective on IRS Forms it would solve the whole argument. Foreign aid to Isreal or other countries should be on the same elective basis.

That way virtue signaling liberals can check a box to volunteer to sponsor a Muslim immigrant of their very own, pay for their immigration transportation, bring them into their home, feed them, pay for their education, ensure they comply with the law and assimilate into society.

Conservatives can just opt out. Everybody's happy!

Can I opt out of military entanglements and foreign wars? If so, slap my ass and call me a conservative.
 

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It's particularly interesting that the majority percentage was so high. 7-2???
The only 2 dissenters were full-blown moonbats Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor.

That means 2 libbie SC justices voted FOR Trump's right to do it.
 

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Personally I believe if we made Government Social Programs such as Immigration, Welfare, or scholarship programs elective on IRS Forms it would solve the whole argument. Financial aid to Isreal or other countries should be the same.

That way virtue signaling liberals can check a box to volunteer to sponsor a Muslim immigrant of their very own, pay for their immigration transportation, bring them into their home, feed them, pay for their education, ensure they comply with the law and assimilate into society.

Conservatives can just opt out. Everybody's happy!
There was a book written I think called .... who really cares.....and it showed religous conservatives gave the most to charities.
 

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I refuse to believe that every single muslim in this country is in favor of sharia law; anyone who believes that is deeply deluded.

You're making an argument that I didn't make. I didn't say every single muslim.


In fact, I refuse to believe that even a small fraction of muslims in this country want sharia law or even understand what it means.

You can refuse to believe anything you want. I won't bother to review the number of times individuals and groups inside the US has called for sharia law in the US. It isn't small. The only thing that's a small fraction is the reporting of these comments by mainstream media. Just because you have not seen it on CNN doesn't mean it does not exist.


If you want to start limiting people's freedom of religion or designating groups as enemy of the state, have fun. I've read enough history to know how that winds up and I want no part.

Again, you are making an argument I am not making. Pulse is correct, you're being obtuse. There really isn't anything to say about the above comment in a respectful way. I'll take the rare for me approach of not responding as I'd like to.
 

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Can I opt out of military entanglements and foreign wars? If so, slap my ass and call me a conservative.
I'm open to a public referendum on a formal declaration of war & peacetime military & intelligence service budgets, but I believe providing for the common defense of the nation is a mutually shared responsibility.
 

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LOL good one.
Do you think that Trump knew where it was either?

He prolly thought it was one of the Marx brothers.

Trump IS the most ignorant president ever about world affairs.
Idk.... go back through his interviews...... he has been pretty accurate for the last 30 years

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There was a book written I think called .... who really cares.....and it showed religous conservatives gave the most to charities.
Not a doubt in my mind and they would probably also sponsor the most immigration.

I have no desire to continue to be taxed to death so the The Democrats & their failed policies can maintain an electoral majority.
 
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You're making an argument that I didn't make. I didn't say every single muslim.




You can refuse to believe anything you want. I won't bother to review the number of times individuals and groups inside the US has called for sharia law in the US. It isn't small. The only thing that's a small fraction is the reporting of these comments by mainstream media. Just because you have not seen it on CNN doesn't mean it does not exist.




Again, you are making an argument I am not making. Pulse is correct, you're being obtuse. There really isn't anything to say about the above comment in a respectful way. I'll take the rare for me approach of not responding as I'd like to.

I took my attack on the meme too far.

You all might not believe it but I have more in common with this side of the forum than you think. I don't want to make enemies over here, i respect everyone's opinions and enjoy a lively debate. Even pulse when he calls me a soy boy, even though I don't know what that means.
 

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EXCLUSIVE: FBI Supervisor BOOTED from Mueller Probe INTERVIEWED Mike Flynn
https://www.hannity.com/alternate/a...ed-from-mueller-probe-interviewed-mike-flynn/
Correct me if I'm wrong but the crux of this thing doesn't really have as much to do with Russia than it does to do with Israel.
Basically Flynn tried to get the Russians to change their position on the illegal settlements... Isn't that what we do at the UN, bully and lobby for israel? I'm sure every admin as done the same or far worse.
 

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But the list doesn't include the people behind 9/11 (not israel), saudi arabia. So its just more of trumps showmanship.
Saudi Arabia has a first rate intelligence service that has the ability to perform a proper background check on an immigrant. Just so happens they had citizens that supposedly attacked us on 9-11 (in reality our own administration was responsible along with Mossad) and most recently in Vegas (there is some debate as to whether it was the MS-13 guys in paddocks room buying the guns off him that fired into the crowd after missing the shots taken at Trump at the airport or the Saudi hit squad trying to assassinate the prince who took the live fire shots into the crowd). Perhaps they will make the list when & if the truth is ever told.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the crux of this thing doesn't really have as much to do with Russia than it does to do with Israel.
Basically Flynn tried to get the Russians to change their position on the illegal settlements... Isn't that what we do at the UN, bully and lobby for israel? I'm sure every admin as done the same or far worse.
All Flynn did was tell the Russian ambassador that when Trump took office we could revisit the sanctions. Not a crime. He lied about having that conversation not realizing he was illegally wiretapped on a falsely acquireed wiretap that was a violation of national security protocols.
 

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Saudi Arabia has a first rate intelligence service that the ability to perform a proper background check on an immigrant. Just so happens they had citizens that supposedly attacked us on 9-11 (in reality our own administration was responsible along with Mossad) and most recently in Vegas. Perhaps they will make the list when & if the truth is ever told.
Do they have a proper background check system for all those head chopping Jihadist they trained and sent to Syria, Libya, Iraq and every where else be you find head chopping jihadist?

That's a politically expedient excuse that seems to go against the entire core of the ban.
 

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All Flynn did was tell the Russian ambassador that when Trump took office we could revisit the sanctions. Not a crime. He lied about having that conversation not realizing he was illegally wiretapped on a falsely acquireed wiretap that was a violation of national security protocols.

I'm just saying, many more have done far far worse.
 

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I'm just saying, many more have done far far worse.
My concern is that Russia does seem to be 'weaponizing' the internet to a degree.
And I do not want them to have undue influence within our government either.
They seem to be taking a longer term view/plan than our govt is capable of.
 

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Personally I believe if we made Government Social Programs such as Immigration, Welfare, Public Education or scholarship programs elective on IRS Forms it would solve the whole argument. Foreign aid to Isreal or other countries should be on the same elective basis.

A flat tax of 10% with an IRS form listing every government agency that wants funding. Not just social programs. DOD, FBI, EPA, CIA, FDA.

It would have to be a priority based choosing method so if an agency becomes fully funded, your money goes to the next or #2 on the list and so on. It would also have to have a method to completly opt out of any of your money going to programs or agencies that you do not want to fund at all.

No borrowing to fund unfunded/underfunded agencies.

Congress is supposed to handle stuff like that(who gets what $$) but I believe Congress' has shown it is unable to perform this task so it falls on we the people to do it for them.

If the crooked CIA or other agency doesn't get enough to operate, too fucking bad. Shut it down. If their isn't enough that went to fund Congresscritter pay, too fucking bad, you just got a pay cut.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the crux of this thing doesn't really have as much to do with Russia than it does to do with Israel.
Basically Flynn tried to get the Russians to change their position on the illegal settlements... Isn't that what we do at the UN, bully and lobby for israel? I'm sure every admin as done the same or far worse.

That is precisely correct.
 

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If I was being goaded into war by the US and EU I'd weaponize whatever I could get my hand on.
Goaded into war?
Not sure about that but Trump and His Russian counterpart both seem to have similar aims.
MAGA MRGA...
Or at least a similar line of rhetoric to sell to their populations.
 

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I'm just saying, many more have done far far worse.
Agreed. Their time is coming sooner rather than later. It was necessary for Flynn to be indicted so he can testify against the previous administration without breaking his security oath.
 

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A flat tax of 10% with an IRS form listing every government agency that wants funding. Not just social programs. DOD, FBI, EPA, CIA, FDA.

It would have to be a priority based choosing method so if an agency becomes fully funded, your money goes to the next or #2 on the list and so on. It would also have to have a method to completly opt out of any of your money going to programs or agencies that you do not want to fund at all.

No borrowing to fund unfunded/underfunded agencies.

Congress is supposed to handle stuff like that(who gets what $$) but I believe Congress' has shown it is unable to perform this task so it falls on we the people to do it for them.

If the crooked CIA or other agency doesn't get enough to operate, too fucking bad. Shut it down. If their isn't enough that went to fund Congresscritter pay, too fucking bad, you just got a pay cut.

Wait but if the FBI and CIA are defunded, who's going to handle all the.... ok yeah, that sounds line it could work.

;)
 

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Do they have a proper background check system for all those head chopping Jihadist they trained and sent to Syria, Libya, Iraq and every where else be you find head chopping jihadist?

That's a politically expedient excuse that seems to go against the entire core of the ban.
False. the other countries lack the ability to perform these checks properly. This has always been the core of the ban.

We can never really trust the motives of these counties security services, but at least they have the aparatus to supply us with the information we need to vet.
 

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Goaded into war?
Not sure about that but Trump and His Russian counterpart both seem to have similar aims.
MAGA MRGA...
Or at least a similar line of rhetoric to sell to their populations.
I think there is nothing both sides of the house wants more than a war with Russia. Just look at the reckless behavior in the skies and on the ground in and around Syria. Things are so crazy and upside down right now, Putin and lavoros look like the adults in the room.
 

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I think there is nothing both sides of the house wants more than a war with Russia. Just look at the reckless behavior in the skies and on the ground in and around Syria. Things are so crazy and upside down right now, Putin and lavoros look like the adults in the room.
Can't disagree with that.
But looks about what Putin wants can be deceiving. He is lots smarter than Trump or our congress.
 

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False. the other countries lack the ability to perform these checks properly. This has always been the core of the ban.

We can never really trust the motives of these counties security services, but at least they have the aparatus to supply us with the information we need to vet.
Well, I will agree that pretty much the only nations in the Middle East that have the ability and infrastructure to comply with the regulations would be the GCC nations. Those are also the nations we have also been in cahoots with for decades now.
 

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Ahh but remember when Sadam was our fair haired boy over there?
When you think about it, what did saddam actually do other than decide to sell his oil for euros? He invaded Kuwait with at the very least knowledge of Rumsfeld and at best his permission. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not fond of the al queads. He did kill a bunch of Kurds but who hasn't killed a bunch of Kurds? I might have backed over two pulling out of my driveway this morning.
 

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I think there is nothing both sides of the house wants more than a war with Russia. Just look at the reckless behavior in the skies and on the ground in and around Syria. Things are so crazy and upside down right now, Putin and lavoros look like the adults in the room.
There is nothing Isreal and by extension Congress wants more than a partitioning of Eastern Syria to form Kurdistan so the pipelines from Saudi to Europe can go in and Israel can take that oil field they found rather than the Russia backed pipelines from Iran through Syria that Assad has agreed to if the country remains intact. Rothchild wants the Central Bank & has development rights with Dick Cheney (Genie Oil) on the Field.
 

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When you think about it, what did saddam actually do other than decide to sell his oil for euros? He invaded Kuwait with at the very least knowledge of Rumsfeld and at best his permission. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not fond of the al queads. He did kill a bunch of Kurds but who hasn't killed a bunch of Kurds? I might have backed over two pulling out of my driveway this morning.
Yep all true and we kept quiet and took a no comment stance on his use of WMD's at the time....

Sadam was moving into business deals with European nations and we could not allow that to happen....
Would make it too difficult to meddle as effectively over there.
 

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There is nothing Isreal and by extension Congress wants more than a partitioning of Eastern Syria to form Kurdistan so the pipelines from Saui to Europe can go in and Israel can take that oil field they found rather than the Russia backed pipelines from Iran through Syria that Assad has agreed to if the country remains intact.
Indeed. Israels plan for what's going on in the Middle East goes back to the early 80's. No conspiracy, it was a public paper penned by someone within their govt. I'll see if I can dig it up, although I'd bet you probably know what I'm talking about.
 

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Indeed. Israels plan for what's going on in the Middle East goes back to the early 80's. No conspiracy, it was a public paper penned by someone within their govt. I'll see if I can dig it up, although I'd bet you probably know what I'm talking about.
Wesley Clark spoke of it.
 

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So we had a wonderful chat about that. Are China, Russia, Japan, South Korea and US about to invade NK?
 

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Indeed. Israels plan for what's going on in the Middle East goes back to the early 80's. No conspiracy, it was a public paper penned by someone within their govt. I'll see if I can dig it up, although I'd bet you probably know what I'm talking about.
Yep pretty much and Israels plan is pretty much our plan as well...

People tend to also forget that The Jewish people began the practice of terroristic bombing to achieve their goals.
King David Hotel....

And Call me a conspirist if you want but I am not so sure about who was behind the Beirut bombing of the barracks.
 

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Yep pretty much and Israels plan is pretty much our plan as well...

People tend to also forget that The Jewish people began the practice of terroristic bombing to achieve their goals.
King David Hotel....

And Call me a conspirist if you want but I am not so sure about who was behind the Beirut bombing of the barracks.
I/We should learn to qualify statements as Zionists/Globalists/Illuminati/Elite when discussing these things. They are responsible for almost everything.

Israeli, Saudi, English American, Christian, Muslim, Jew are not necessarily responsible. It is the corrupt Cabal Bankers and Leaders of these things that are responsible. The rest of us are just people.
 
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