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You are hilarious. You have "my" sense of humour and that's awesome.Or Famine...Just saying.
Just thought I'd let you know.
Carry on...
Oh but the Red Horseman is War... Famine is the Black Horseman.
Oh man Nosferatu! My dad and I used to watch all manner of cheesy horror flicks growing up. Still my favourite genre.Where did all the nasty vampires go anyways?
Better? While I know that poverty doesn't prove god(s) don't exist, It does throw a monkey wrench in the cogs that a "loving and benevolent father-like creator" exists.
If there is a god(s) they are most certainly NOT benevolent.
I've always gotten along better with Satanists than Christians...
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So is that all you're going to contribute?\
Props for using Tesla in this round of Science v Jesus Memes.
When people I don't know ask me if I've found god my usual response is (I didn't know he was lost)
The only thing about it I know is my wife's name is Gaelic.
Her name = Siobhan
I reject the "benevolent god/deity/creator" ideal on one basis: free will. Free will gives us all the choice to pursue our lives as we see fit. To accept or deny the existence of such a deity. To make the choices that will either improve or degrade the condition of our fellow man and woman.
Poverty, war, hate, intolerance. All conditions which are perpetuated by us, by and through our actions or inactions. Laying the blame for them at the foot of god is a weak play to deflect responsibility from ourselves.
While in one sense I agree with this, the counter is that if someone feels they all have to offer is prayer, does rejecting or belittling it serve any purpose - other than to possibly insult them?
Hi Snake,
What about the binary nature of the existential claim that a deity exists? There exists such a binary question, and I demonstrated quite clearly that the atheist position is one of a truth statement which excludes any possibility of a deity existing if one chooses that viewpoint.
The only logical answer to the question is agnosticism. Yes, that means deists are being illogical in their faith, but that's part of the point isn't it?
What about the binary nature of the existential claim that a deity exists? There exists such a binary question, and I demonstrated quite clearly that the atheist position is one of a truth statement which excludes any possibility of a deity existing if one chooses that viewpoint.
The only logical answer to the question is agnosticism. Yes, that means deists are being illogical in their faith, but that's part of the point isn't it?
I would love to...however so far you've proven you have no clear concept of of what it actually is.
If you wish to bring up the double edged sword.Let us hope that 1 isn't hanging over your head first.Hi Snake,
What about the binary nature of the existential claim that a deity exists? There exists such a binary question, and I demonstrated quite clearly that the atheist position is one of a truth statement which excludes any possibility of a deity existing if one chooses that viewpoint.
The only logical answer to the question is agnosticism. Yes, that means deists are being illogical in their faith, but that's part of the point isn't it?
Could you explain this statement please?
OMG that made my night...And it needs to be a T-Shirt.
On the contrary, I already demonstrated that referring to one self as an atheist, but allowing for the possibility of a deity is illogical. That demonstrates YOU don't know what the term means.
I'll give you a nice yellow slicker so the poo just slides right off without getting on your clothes.More like Aristotle, Avicenna and Plato...oh, and Sen...
I actually have read the entire thread. It seems as if you have a major grudge on this Surf Monkey fellow. He seems very intelligent to me and a much more worthy opponent than myself. Slinging poo gets us nowhere here, but, if that makes you happy, sling away, I'll duck....
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I would prefer to not make an event that changed my life, fodder for a group of people looking to degrade someone for having a belief.
tru words....not a made for TV event. or fodder for bored dipshits.
The only degrading I have seen has come from the side of the believers, with one exception. Most of us are not trying to take away your faith. I, for one, respect that you have faith. Just because I do not believe does not automatically make me the bad guy here. I merely express my own thoughts on the subject and I try to do it respectfully. It is a 2 way street, if you allow it.
Please stop...Seriously.
carpe jugulum
Here's my problem with this line of thought.Sticking tab A into slot B shouldn't feel as good as it does.All evidence shows it should actually feel unpleasant.Reason says it's probably unsanitary as well.Yet I dare you to not do it and not like it.Now fuck off...Thanks.
Oh touche.
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True, I TRIED to make that point a few pages back. Unfortunately that is not the case in this thread- When it gets to poking fun at the belief itself, and degrading a deity coupled to the fact that most of the group showed up at the same time, and most are only here for this one thread the true motive becomes rather easy ascertain.
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He didn't say he believed.
In fact, he said the exact opposite.
He said he DOESN'T believe.
How much faith does it require to not believe something?
Why, oh, why is this so hard for some people.
Does not believe ≠ believes not
Show me his corpse
Dude I wished I could double like a post
Are... Are you in the right thread for that statement?
Sure, if it lightens things up in here. Seems we're always going to have smashers and bashers wherever we go. I gloss over them, for the most part and try to keep the peace. Almost impossible in this thread, but I believe it can be done. Each side needs to respect the OTHER side in order for any intelligent conversation to take place. I've seen way worse in other forums. Okay, maybe less swearing in those forums, but douchebaggery of the highest order has taken place and it wasn't pretty.
Yep.
This is better than watching alley cats fight...Fuck me running!
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yeah all the aggression is a recent development. at least to the level it is at currently
Very true. I just don't understand how someone else believes or doesn't affects another person, unless they're shoving it down their throat. I've been friends with a lot of forum peeps for years and never had a clue what religion they followed or didn't, and it won't affect me one way or the other. Same if they're gay, straight, short, fat, old, young... Doesn't change my life a bit and we can still get along for the most part. That's why this thread is such a mess, everyone taking someone else's life personally
you need to get out of Kansas more often Dorthy or go back to ECF where the propritees of good anglo-saxon anal retention are observed,but the mudpit is just foreplay....
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I think most people need to believe in something bigger than themselves.Personally I hope there is...otherwise I feel we are well and truly fucked.
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Noooo
I'll never believe it
I think you're right.I'm pretty certain I'm the 1 who made the comment on the old man in the sky...Hint there is a search function on this forum.
dirty...nasty...baaaaad girls....
I personally choose not to follow any specific religion. I won't back anything with strict "rules" I don't agree with. I can neither prove nor disprove any existence of a god or gods. It's a possibility as far as I'm concerned that there are one or more. But I refuse to be a part of something that condemns people for certain things I think are acceptable.
I believe in doing my best to be a good person. Helping others when I can. I believe in letting others believe whatever they feel necessary in their lives. Live and let live. I believe in honesty and integrity. And respect in general, until you do something to me or someone I care about directly.
I believe in doing my best to be a good person. Helping others when I can. I believe in letting others believe whatever they feel necessary in their lives. Live and let live. I believe in honesty and integrity. And respect in general, until you do something to me or someone I care about directly.
So, you mean the only way I should stay is if I tell you to fuck off? Is that how it works here? Was I being too nice for you? Sorry.
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