We are in agreement for the most part morely. I too agree that everything is provided for you, especially in this land of opportunity. It is there for the taking, you just have to get up, go out and get it. It is really that simple. The problem is, when did it become my place and the place of everyone else who did get up and achieve it to now have to share what we got with those who didnt feel like getting up and even trying? I and many like me are more than happy to help anyone who really needs that help but there is one catch. They have to be trying to help themselves too.
How about we look at it like this. On one hand you have a person who really tried but due to bad luck or hard times or circumstances beyond there control just cant get ahead. Then on the other hand you have the person who never really tried, the wasted their years drinking and drugging, being a leech on their parents and society. Your in a position to help both, do you?
Lets take it a step farther. You did help both. The one who really tried was able to succeed with your help and get ahead to the point they thanked you and said they got it from here. The other one took what you gave them and bought more drink and more drug and now wants more from you. What do you do now.
Its not a matter of judging nor comparing. Its about using common sense. many of us are more than happy to lend a hand to those in need. Yet when did it become a point when we must support those who refuse to try?
We are still in agreement for the most part. Wishing for love, reason, humanity, potentiality and true objective freedom is an honorable goal. But what about the guy who doesnt wish for that? Say you have a person who beats his wife and kids constantly and no matter what you say or do, it doesnt stop. He also refuses to work or support his family and thinks it is your place to do that because you have more than you deserve in his opinion, even tho you worked hard for what you have. I know that is an extreme example but we both know there are people out there like that. How can any of us have a better world with them in our world. So now what do you do. Do you shun him and refuse to help him anymore? If you do that then what about his wife, his kids? How is he any less deserving than one who refused to help themselves? One who had potential but squandered it? As much as any of us wish for love, reason, humanity, potentiality and true objective freedom, there is also reality that must be dealt with.
This was never a debate, it is a discussion because for the most part we agree. We both feel some need our help and it is our place to help them. The discussion is more about who deserves our help and where the line should be drawn for it. I draw the line at believing we should raise the minimum wage for i believe a person who gets a job and works hard wont stay at minimum wage for long for they are proving their value. You think it should be blanketed across the board which I am against for I see how it will harm far more than it will do good. If you raised an unskilled worker who flips burgers from $16K/yr to over $40K/yr then the market is going to correct itself and now that hamburger that use to cost $5/lb now cost $15/lb. In the end the unskilled worker will still have the same buying power that they had at the old minimum wage but the rest of us are in far worse shape because of it for we too must pay the price. So now we start cutting out things like fast food for face it, who wants to pay $15 for a happy meal. Now that fast food place cant stay in business and shuts its doors and that burger flipper is out of a job. See the slippery slope we are attempting to climb? That is the reality that must be dealt with.