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Why are people so SMALL MINDED? Sunday is "Go Topless Day", where women across the USA and Canada go topless to support the freedom of choice to do so. Go Topless DAY?!? Black History has February, Ladies, but the other 11 months are WIDE OPEN.
There is actually a go topless day? And it's today? Guess I need to stay abreast of the situation.
 

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I've lived in Windsor. May I inquire as to these "Sights" of which you make mention?!?

Dayum, the Shenanigans that went on in the basement of Assumption Church... the priests HAD to have had a hidey hole, what with all the free pop and chips and lack of supervision...
I would have to say, from my handful of trips to Chrysler, that there are no sights in Windsor worth seeing.
 

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Oh, one other thing impressed me about Canada -- the nude dancers are a LOT more um... up close and personal... with the customers. :D I'd been to a lot of those places here in Atlanta, and they're fully nude, and open till 4am... but they never, ever touch, and you'd better not touch them either, unless you really wanna learn how to fly, when the bouncers physically toss your ass out the door. :D

Thought you pervies would wanna know that, about Canada. :D Puritanism isn't nearly as prevalent up there.

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Dayum, I didn't have time for those "sights" on my Windsor trips, perhaps I need to travel there on my own time, rather than company time.
 

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Dayum, I didn't have time for those "sights" on my Windsor trips, perhaps I need to travel there on my own time, rather than company time.

OR, you could make a case for "entertaining the client", yah? Strippers are big fans of Corporate Welfare...
 

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Morning yall and GFY :D

Interesting convo yall had last night. IMHO prostitution should be legal but wives will never allow that to happen. It has nothin to do with moral objections and everything to do with competition. Just look at it, if honey is mad what is the first thing she shuts off until the guy suffers enough and she can bend him to her will? If he was able to go down the road and easily get it, she would no longer have that power over him. Same thing, if honey wants something expensive what it the first things she does. She puts on something sexy to greet her man with when he gets home. Every guy knows that means it is gonna cost him. If prostitution was legal then it would totally destroy honeys plans selling what she has for high $$$ :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

Reminds me of my GF years and years ago. When we first hooked up aviation didn't pay well at all. Think I was at or less than $10/hr then but I tried to make it a point to always have $100 pocket money for her when I was gone to work for a week. One time she had the bright idea that I didn't leave her with enough money when I was gone so it is now gonna cost me. I told her ok and that on average we fucked 4 times a week (yes this was a veeeeeeery long time ago ) and that I leave her with $100 a week. If she misses once then I was gonna dock her $25 from her weekly money. Don't know why but she decided she didn't wanna be my personal prostitute anymore :giggle:
 
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Morning yall and GFY :D

Interesting convo yall had last night. IMHO prostitution should be legal but wives will never allow that to happen. It has nothin to do with moral objections and everything to do with competition. Just look at it, if honey is mad what is the first thing she shuts off until the guy suffers enough and she can bend him to her will? If he was able to go down the road and easily get it, she would no longer have that power over him. Same thing, if honey wants something expensive what it the first things she does. She puts on something sexy to greet her man with when he gets home. Every guy knows that means it is gonna cost him. If prostitution was legal then it would totally destroy honeys plans selling what she has for high $$$ :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

Reminds me of my GF years and years ago. When we first hooked up aviation didn't pay well at all. Think I was at or less than $10/hr then but I tried to make it a point to always have $100 pocket money for her when I was gone to work for a week. One time she had the bright idea that I didn't leave her with enough money when I was gone so it is now gonna cost me. I told her ok and that on average we fucked 4 times a week (yes this was a veeeeeeery long time ago ) and that I leave her with $100 a week. If she misses once then I was gonna dock her $25 from her weekly money. Don't know why but she decided she didn't wanna be my personal prostitute anymore :giggle:

The stove? I can get that other stuff anywhere, but NOBODY can make a meal like my Mrs. SHE knows what her assets are..
 

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Attitudes vary a lot. When I lived in Orygun if one saw a topless woman on the beach it was cool.

Here is KY they run screaming for a cop.

Stoopit humans.

It is for the children!

but it is ok for their children to see a topless woman on TV and such that was cut in half to make her topless.


REALLY REALLY Stoopit Hoomins.

Technically, boobs ARE for the children, Cromwell
 

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I am NO Puritan, and have NO idea about AMERSTERDAMS "district". But I do abhor prostitution. Only on the grounds that it is a human slave trade, and is largely a product of ugly and deadly addictions on BOTH sides. I landed in one by accident in Innsbruck Austria. It was mostly South American women. I got the Taco Especial...

I am 100% in favor of legalized prostitution - there would be no market if there were no eager buyers.

Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it.

In reality, women who find themselves pimped and immigrants who find themselves trafficked would find themselves in yet another type of slavery if not prostitution - I really believe this. A battered prostitute is no different than other types of battered woman.

The trafficked prostitute is basically a battered woman who finds herself hooked up with a pimp rather than a husband who locks her in the house and knocks the shit out of her for burning the toast.

There also exists large numbers of independents who are very well paid and in business for themselves.

If the powers that be stopped wasting time and resources (money) trying to stamp out vice such as a business transaction agains two consenting adults, they could aim those said resources at the truly vile and evil traffickers of children and producers/consumers of child pornography. Those are some despicable human beings.
 
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I think the gig in Austria was to get pregnant if I remember correctly, and then since the baby is a citizen, you got to extend your visa, maybe permanently. The little darling was thrilled that we were both "Americans". I was thrilled that she was on a noble pursuit.. ;) AND I was single. I thought it was just a bar!

Ummm... you lost me. I'm just trying to figure out how Austria came into anything... and failing miserably. ?????

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Ahh but the definition of just what a good human being differs widely....

Seems the basics are don't coerce, defraud, hurt, steal, kill other human beings and have respect, empathy, courtesy, love for living beings and our Earth. Not sure why that is so difficult to abide. Bill & Ted even summed up in a sound byte. "Be excellent to one another!"
 

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My perspective is much the same. I don't and won't make other people moral decisions for them. Victimless crimes, for the most part, should not be crimes. Personally, for me, it's just nasty. Plain old nasty. BUT, that's for me. I think strawberry ice cream is nasty, that's not a judgment of people who like strawberry ice cream.

The problem is that virtually no one grows up wanting to be a prostitute. I am sure at some time, in some place, there have been people who aspired to the profession, but it's probably an extraordinarily rare life aspiration. Prostitutes exist because they need money, usually more than can be gained from a different profession, for their own reasons. Most of the time, but not always, the reasons involve drug addiction and usually a lifetime of abuse. So, it's not that sex is a commodity, it's more that prostitutes (male or female) have an enabling avenue to continue pursuing a lifestyle of self-harm. Their clients, as well, can be playing the same game of potential self-harm Russian Roulette. And the families of both can suffer from the choices that either make. Then the industry itself has other players, the third parties who oversee the prostitutes' activities. Frequently this involves continuing abuse. So, it's a lot more complicated than a puritanical prohibition or moral judgment.

It wasn't always that way -- and yes, in ancient times, perhaps even up to Victorian times, some women DID aspire to it -- not because they wanted to have sex with lots of men and be treated like shit, but for the FREEDOM -- until sometime in the early 20th century, when a woman married, EVERYTHING SHE OWNED, INCLUDING HER OWN PERSON became PROPERTY AND CHATTEL of her husband, so naturally, strong, independent, and intelligent women sometimes wished to maintain their freedom from THAT sort of slavery. Heteiras in ancient Greece were the only women one ever saw in public -- and often, they were not "sex toys for the public" at all, simply unmarried women who claimed the right to stay that way, to decide on their own partner(s) instead of being sold by their fathers. It's only IN more recent times that the stereotype of "dirty whore" has been applied to all women who, for whatever reason, sold access to their bodies -- another thing to "thank" the puritans for! Those assholes have a lot to answer for! But even now, women have to fight for the right to be sexual creatures without being labelled some obnoxious epithet -- how recent is it, that rapists could get away with it, simply because a woman wore suggestive clothing, so clearly she was "asking for it"? Men who have a lot of partners are thought virile, manly... women who have a lot of partners, well obviously they're just WHORES, right? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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I am 100% in favor of legalized prostitution - there would be no market if there were no eager buyers.

Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it.

In reality, women who find themselves pimped and immigrants who find themselves trafficked would find themselves in yet another type of slavery if not prostitution - I really believe this. A battered prostitute is no different than other types of battered woman.

The trafficked prostitute is basically a battered woman who finds herself hooked up with a pimp rather than a husband who locks her in the house and knocks the shit out of her for burning the toast.

There also exists large numbers of independents who are very well paid and in business for themselves.

If the powers that be stopped wasting time and resources (money) trying to stamp out vice such as a business transaction agains two consenting adults, they could aim those said resources at the truly vile and evil traffickers of children and producers/consumers of child pornography. Those are some despicable human beings.

I agree. Legalize prostitution. The opposite is legal, you can be a soldier, a professional killer. Why not increase the chance of creating life to balance the creation of death by a profession as old as soldiering.

That and the fact that if it's legal prostitutes can legally get medical care, insurance, costs of their services would stabilize. The costs stabilizing aside they would be treated respectfully, with dignity as human beings and not merely flesh puppets. And yes, I'm being inclusive of male prostitutes. It would serve all of them, prostitutes better to have it legalized, legitimized.
 
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Thank you.

Maybe mine has a "born before Woodstock" tag. I'd be kind of okay with that if my daughter didn't think Woodstock was 100 years ago.

My son asked me one time if we had TV when I was a kid. :facepalm: (to which I replied, "yes, and we watched men WALKING AROUND ON THE MOON on it!")

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It wasn't always that way -- and yes, in ancient times, perhaps even up to Victorian times, some women DID aspire to it -- not because they wanted to have sex with lots of men and be treated like shit, but for the FREEDOM -- until sometime in the early 20th century, when a woman married, EVERYTHING SHE OWNED, INCLUDING HER OWN PERSON became PROPERTY AND CHATTEL of her husband, so naturally, strong, independent, and intelligent women sometimes wished to maintain their freedom from THAT sort of slavery. Heteiras in ancient Greece were the only women one ever saw in public -- and often, they were not "sex toys for the public" at all, simply unmarried women who claimed the right to stay that way, to decide on their own partner(s) instead of being sold by their fathers. It's only IN more recent times that the stereotype of "dirty whore" has been applied to all women who, for whatever reason, sold access to their bodies -- another thing to "thank" the puritans for! Those assholes have a lot to answer for! But even now, women have to fight for the right to be sexual creatures without being labelled some obnoxious epithet -- how recent is it, that rapists could get away with it, simply because a woman wore suggestive clothing, so clearly she was "asking for it"? Men who have a lot of partners are thought virile, manly... women who have a lot of partners, well obviously they're just WHORES, right? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Andria

You bring up some very valid points

Up until the turn of the last century, red light districts were considered a necessary component of municipal infrastructure.

It was believed it made the streets safe for "virtuous" women, lol
 

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I am 100% in favor of legalized prostitution - there would be no market if there were no eager buyers.

Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it.

In reality, women who find themselves pimped and immigrants who find themselves trafficked would find themselves in yet another type of slavery if not prostitution - I really believe this. A battered prostitute is no different than other types of battered woman.

The trafficked prostitute is basically a battered woman who finds herself hooked up with a pimp rather than a husband who locks her in the house and knocks the shit out of her for burning the toast.

There also exists large numbers of independents who are very well paid and in business for themselves.

If the powers that be stopped wasting time and resources (money) trying to stamp out vice such as a business transaction agains two consenting adults, they could aim those said resources at the truly vile and evil traffickers of children and producers/consumers of child pornography. Those are some despicable human beings.
pimps-cause_them_bitches_aint_gonna_slap_themselves.jpg
 

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Morning yall and GFY :D

Interesting convo yall had last night. IMHO prostitution should be legal but wives will never allow that to happen. It has nothin to do with moral objections and everything to do with competition. Just look at it, if honey is mad what is the first thing she shuts off until the guy suffers enough and she can bend him to her will? If he was able to go down the road and easily get it, she would no longer have that power over him. Same thing, if honey wants something expensive what it the first things she does. She puts on something sexy to greet her man with when he gets home. Every guy knows that means it is gonna cost him. If prostitution was legal then it would totally destroy honeys plans selling what she has for high $$$ :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

Reminds me of my GF years and years ago. When we first hooked up aviation didn't pay well at all. Think I was at or less than $10/hr then but I tried to make it a point to always have $100 pocket money for her when I was gone to work for a week. One time she had the bright idea that I didn't leave her with enough money when I was gone so it is now gonna cost me. I told her ok and that on average we fucked 4 times a week (yes this was a veeeeeeery long time ago ) and that I leave her with $100 a week. If she misses once then I was gonna dock her $25 from her weekly money. Don't know why but she decided she didn't wanna be my personal prostitute anymore :giggle:

I never understood that idea at all, cutting off the nookie because he did something I disliked -- talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face! I never could understand why *I* should have to suffer TWICE -- first from his stupidity, and then again by having no sex? HORRORS! Best revenge is NOT to cut off sex... but make him do it in the way that pleases ME. :D

Andria
 

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Morning yall and GFY :D

Interesting convo yall had last night. IMHO prostitution should be legal but wives will never allow that to happen. It has nothin to do with moral objections and everything to do with competition. Just look at it, if honey is mad what is the first thing she shuts off until the guy suffers enough and she can bend him to her will? If he was able to go down the road and easily get it, she would no longer have that power over him. Same thing, if honey wants something expensive what it the first things she does. She puts on something sexy to greet her man with when he gets home. Every guy knows that means it is gonna cost him. If prostitution was legal then it would totally destroy honeys plans selling what she has for high $$$ :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

Reminds me of my GF years and years ago. When we first hooked up aviation didn't pay well at all. Think I was at or less than $10/hr then but I tried to make it a point to always have $100 pocket money for her when I was gone to work for a week. One time she had the bright idea that I didn't leave her with enough money when I was gone so it is now gonna cost me. I told her ok and that on average we fucked 4 times a week (yes this was a veeeeeeery long time ago ) and that I leave her with $100 a week. If she misses once then I was gonna dock her $25 from her weekly money. Don't know why but she decided she didn't wanna be my personal prostitute anymore :giggle:

Marriage is another form of prostitution?
yeah sort of and yes I agree somewhat.

If you are married to them they do not have to improve their bouncy skills.
 

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I never understood that idea at all, cutting off the nookie because he did something I disliked -- talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face! I never could understand why *I* should have to suffer TWICE -- first from his stupidity, and then again by having no sex? HORRORS! Best revenge is NOT to cut off sex... but make him do it in the way that pleases ME. :D

Andria

That reminded me of something. One time the gf was in a car accident and she was a passenger that got rear ended by a car doing 25mph. The car the gf was in was stopped. This accident broke the little bone at the base of the neck for her collar bone. We didn't think much about it at first, she didn't even know it was broke but the damage it ended up doing was wicked. One shoulder wing doesn't stick out now, one shoulder is a 1/2 inch higher than the other one and the curve of her neck pretty much reversed. Needless to say I went a very long time with out.
We was at her moms one day and I said something which she replied "better watch it mister or I will cut you off". That was just too good to pass up so I came back with "Cut me off, I dare you. Its been so damn long since your wreck that you would have to take me home and give me some so I know what I was being cut off of. " I could see the red of embarrassment creeping up her neck into her face and her mom and sister was laughing their ass off at us. It worked, the long dry spell ended that night :giggle:
 

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That reminded me of something. One time the gf was in a car accident and she was a passenger that got rear ended by a car doing 25mph. The car the gf was in was stopped. This accident broke the little bone at the base of the neck for her collar bone. We didn't think much about it at first, she didn't even know it was broke but the damage it ended up doing was wicked. One shoulder wing doesn't stick out now, one shoulder is a 1/2 inch higher than the other one and the curve of her neck pretty much reversed. Needless to say I went a very long time with out.
We was at her moms one day and I said something which she replied "better watch it mister or I will cut you off". That was just too good to pass up so I came back with "Cut me off, I dare you. Its been so damn long since your wreck that you would have to take me home and give me some so I know what I was being cut off of. " I could see the red of embarrassment creeping up her neck into her face and her mom and sister was laughing their ass off at us. It worked, the long dry spell ended that night :giggle:

I just never got the idea of doing without, for ANY reason. When I was pregnant, we had sex because my hormones were going crazy, and sex was a good way to forget about being nauseous. 3 wks after my c-sec, we had sex because we hadn't been able to, for well over a month -- when the baby "drops", it becomes very painful for a woman to WALK, nevermind anything else. When I was depressed, we had sex just so there'd be SOME pleasure in my life. That's why this post-menopausal pain pisses me off so much -- really it's the first time in my life that sex has been so unpleasant, I didn't wanna (other than those few weeks in late pregnancy), and my husband is a gem; he doesn't wanna do anything that hurts me, he says it makes it not fun for him at all, knowing I'm in pain. But he supports my decision not to take hormones, because of the astronomical cancer risk -- I finally gave up cigarettes, so I really don't want to add some whole new cancer risk!

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It wasn't always that way -- and yes, in ancient times, perhaps even up to Victorian times, some women DID aspire to it -- not because they wanted to have sex with lots of men and be treated like shit, but for the FREEDOM -- until sometime in the early 20th century, when a woman married, EVERYTHING SHE OWNED, INCLUDING HER OWN PERSON became PROPERTY AND CHATTEL of her husband, so naturally, strong, independent, and intelligent women sometimes wished to maintain their freedom from THAT sort of slavery. Heteiras in ancient Greece were the only women one ever saw in public -- and often, they were not "sex toys for the public" at all, simply unmarried women who claimed the right to stay that way, to decide on their own partner(s) instead of being sold by their fathers. It's only IN more recent times that the stereotype of "dirty whore" has been applied to all women who, for whatever reason, sold access to their bodies -- another thing to "thank" the puritans for! Those assholes have a lot to answer for! But even now, women have to fight for the right to be sexual creatures without being labelled some obnoxious epithet -- how recent is it, that rapists could get away with it, simply because a woman wore suggestive clothing, so clearly she was "asking for it"? Men who have a lot of partners are thought virile, manly... women who have a lot of partners, well obviously they're just WHORES, right? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Andria
Amen.

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