I love the Unkamen ss430. That's why I was gonna order more 430 but now hearing this I'll just stick with Unkamen and the 28g they have. Just wanted to do some ss430 claptons. Oh well. Thanks for the recommendation like always...
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HCIGAR VT133/VT167 Dual 18650 DNA200/250
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Hey @Wingsfan0310 I have a question. I noticed on my vt133 when I'm vaping with my herakles v2 subohm tank the ohms fluctuate up and down from a .28 to a .3 and back down. There at a .28 and when I press the fire button and vape they rise and when I stop they come back down. I'm vaping in power mode at 55 watts. Just wondering if this is normal??
Yes in Power Mode you have a real time resistance reading. So as the coil is heating up you see the resistance rise.
In TC you see the cold ohms resistance. You don't want to see it fluctuate in TC.
i'm just wondering if the length of the chimney is making a difference re taste ... don't have either so can't really compare .. yet
totally did not see this till i posted ... swear! ;p
wait... confused ... I thought we didn't lock the ohms in TC mode so that the chip would read in real time? but if the ohms don't fluctuate with heat/temp rise and fall .. then not seeing the point. - What am I missing?
In TC, whays displayed on the mod is "cold" resistance. Resistance changes as heat rises, BUT...that is not displayed BC it's not used for the calculations. Basically what Steve was saying is that if the resistance fluctuates in TC mode, then that would indicate a different issue...most likely a bad Atty connection of sorts...I hope that makes sense.
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The mod shows you the cold ohm resistance in TC. It basically locks itself. The resistance does rise but the display doesn't show it. It shows you what it has locked in. The mod is comparing the rise so it knows when it reaches your set Temperature.
The only difference between manually locking is it shuts off the refinement circuitry. With refinement on the mod monitors the coil once it has cooled down and if the cold ohm resistance has changed it will change (refine) the cold ohm resistance to the new value. As coils break in the resistance can/will change slightly. I hope that makes sense.
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Steve
Thanks, makes sense. Another DNA newbie moment. Glad I got that figured out.
I'm sensing collusion...
J/K - yes - thank you both for clarifying. Thought I was falling into a loop hole ;p
confidence in my 133 ... restored!
I'm not sure. I know I had to dramatically raise the TCR from .00138 to .00175 to get a decent puff but even then I was getting a jagged TC graph. I know SS is an alloy so I'm thinking the mixture is off and not by a little to cause the TCR to be off by that much.
Cheers,
Steve
PS If I had to raise it to .0014 or so, that wouldn't be bad, but this is way off imo
@Steve @Wingsfan0310 I did
I never tried that. If you try it and have good luck with it. I'd appreciate a heads up. Now you have me thinking which is a dangerous thing
Cheers,
Steve
I did experiment and it worked perfectly NO MORE RATTLE OF THE BATTERY COVER, I used a tape which came with sponge but you can use magnetic tape as well I am sure it will work perfectly. Thought this might help someone, Thanks
Special Thanks for my buddy @mjag whose advices are making my vaping life much more easier.
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Still the weekend, but I was hoping you'd mention any correspondence you'd had with them at CrazyWire and we could follow suit. A direct point of contact could help if we approach them as a group of forum acquaintances.
No worries though. I'm not hurting for wire, just anxious to get my 430/304 on.
But, I haven't even opened any of my spools yet, so...
I've got 304 and 316 Clapton wire in my order. Do we know if it's confined to just the 430?
If it's an alloy cock-up, I'd expect so.
If it's a fulfillment issue (don't drink and warehouse
) then it could extend to labeling coming off the spoolers (trying to picture the ways an error could creep into a wire production environment, it's a bit out of my bailiwick. Get it... "bailiwick". I'll get my coat. ).Just ordered a Lite a few hours ago... from FT. Should suit me fine.
Along with a variety of bits and bobs, but nothing that wasn't ready to ship.
Need to learn the ins and outs of FT/GB shipping practices, but that seemed prudent.
If only I could remember who put me on to an entire FT page of 'Mizer product.
For a short period of time, Vapenw.com sold a real 1300mAH Lipo pack tailor made for the VT200. I emailed the site representatives and their response was that there weren't going to be any further lipos for sale specifically for the device and that the device itself will no longer be available-at least through their site-after the remaining few sell out. I had order one of those remaining few. Afterwards, browsing the net, I still see "sold out" VT200s but the mod appears along side other available mods which puzzles me. Go to vapenw.com and see that it's still listed there as well as the Hcigar Lipo pack but adding to cart leads to "sold out". I know it's not made any longer but they and other sites should remove the mod from the list of products for sale. With that being said, I don't have a problem with the battery life and actually think it lasts rather long compared to what many lipo-only mod owners claim 1100mAH 3 cell Lithium Polymer batteries can last for their usage. Although I am OCD about amperage and use VTC4s (which mooch says are 2000mAH, not 2100mAH as Sony claims) and LG HB4s which are between 1500mAH and 1600mAH also according to Mooch. I don't get much life from a dual 18650 regulated box mod running at 90W but the Lipo in my VT200 suprised me and is just fine for me. I am constantly swapping newer LG 30amp and 25amp batteries because the DNA 200 chip doesn't taste quite right compared to 18660 powered mods, though if you can get your hands on an Hcigar VT200, the Lipo that comes with it is good enough that risking the device altogether and installing random 3-s 1300mah or greater packs is not worth it given the satisfactory time I can use that mod without worrying about the charge.
I appreciate the mention bud but you deserves all the credit for alleviating the battery door rattle. I am going to have to tag you for giving me advice, I really need advice
Oh gosh... I didn't even try powering them up. Here let me try with 2 of 5. Yes I do get a check battery error.
that makes more sense - It does seem that there is a lot of latitude in the alloy composition specs, so whenever we order 430, batch & supplier of the source is gonna be a factor. Nothing more that we can do short of getting a sample first. Even then, time from sample to 'recommend' or order placed might be between batches / composition changes. Like it isn't hard enough with all the Government interference.
Not the first time hearing that these guys are decent, will probably place a test order here.
Looking over their site it seems that they are planning on carrying 430SS so that could be good news as well !
Awesome! Totally not on you, these issues with this latest wire from them. I will put in a contact to them as well after you hear back. Thank you sir.
Just sent a 'contact us' email requesting info for an ETA of 430 spool and claptons - will post up any reply
I like the "We clean and sterilize all of our wire thoroughly. We also vape on our coils so we know how important this is!"
nice marketing to be sure .. but sounds as tho they will stand behind their products.
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been using their wire exclusively since January and I have nothing negative to say at all
It looks like they also did away with the screw in the battery cap. I thought that screw was kind of janky.first I saw with blue - looks nice!
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IKR - nice of them to make the change. Not considerably after all the consumers 'tested' for them.. but hey .. a lot of company's wouldn't have bothered either.
Still the weekend, but I was hoping you'd mention any correspondence you'd had with them at CrazyWire and we could follow suit. A direct point of contact could help if we approach them as a group of forum acquaintances.
No worries though. I'm not hurting for wire, just anxious to get my 430/304 on.
But, I haven't even opened any of my spools yet, so...
I've got 304 and 316 Clapton wire in my order. Do we know if it's confined to just the 430?
If it's an alloy cock-up, I'd expect so.
If it's a fulfillment issue (don't drink and warehouse
The email i sent was to [email protected]
I don't think there was a issue besides the ss430 wire? I personally only tested the 25g and could tell the taste was off.
I've never seen a silicone sleeve but JWraps make wraps for the VT133 if your interested:
http://www.jwraps.com/All_Jwrap_Designs_s/2186.htm
I don't like their bottom cap (screw) once threads stripped mod is useless, had bad experience with ipv mini 70w
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Thanks.
I've lost track of who ordered what, that's why my subtle nod to Steve.
The 304 should be okay, but until we get a little further into whatever we do with CrazyWire, if I roll anything I'll try the 316 Clapton wire... they outsource that.
Ha Ha Ha.
I sent them a message as well. I'm starting to think we should have just referenced this thread.
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Steve
I didn't order 304. I did get some Clapton wire that I haven't opened yet. Until I hear from them I'm not trying anything else from the order. If I need to return it, I'm returning everything. I only tried the 25ga SS430 yesterday and that was as far as I cared to go.
PS I just got my order yesterday
Cheers,
Steve
PS I just got my order yesterday
Cheers,
Steve
Jim.... That's what i discussed with Steve also. Their 316 Clapton and A1-Alien wire is outsourced according to the website. It looks good, i will test some later and give you my opinion. That was 90% percent of my order.
This is what my order from last year looked like. They also changed the labels and the wire
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let me know how that goes for you!This is what my order from last year looked like. They also changed the labels and the wire
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I have a few spools of that and I'm getting weirdness compared to unkamen
looks like the 316 should
this is the 430
this is stainless Clapton from lightening vapes
If that's the SS430 from CW then my graphs were at least as bad, I was getting an after taste as well along with having to crank the TCR way up. Something was definitely not right with batch I received
CW SS430 with the right TCR - limited almost immediately
CW SS430 with SS410 TCR, still cool and limiting way to quick
CW SS430 this was the best I could get with the TCR cranked up to .00175 to have it behave like the Unkamen SS430 heat and vapor wise
Unkamen SS430 with the proper SS430 TCR (.00138)
CW SS430 with the right TCR - limited almost immediately
CW SS430 with SS410 TCR, still cool and limiting way to quick
CW SS430 this was the best I could get with the TCR cranked up to .00175 to have it behave like the Unkamen SS430 heat and vapor wise
Unkamen SS430 with the proper SS430 TCR (.00138)
My CW SS430 TC graphs were like SS316. On top of that it produced almost no vapor at the proper TCR and tasted off leaving a hard to describe aftertaste in my mouth. Are my charts not showing up? I have them on my screen.
Cheers,
Steve
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yeah this is why I never got on the 0430 train to Moscow... or Italy.
the 316 graph doesn't look smooth but the vape is smooth.. versus the CW430 graph that looks like choppy and vapes like poopoo
so I guess ill try getting a spool from ukeman
So you are saying the old wire did the same thing? Did it have a off taste about it? I didn't have a DNA mod until a couple of months ago, so i wouldn't be able to see any graphs of the old wire until recently. It never tasted weird, like their new SS wire.
Here are some of my graphs. I am not sure which is old vs new 25ss. I didn't tag the screenshots.
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I got bad taste from the cw430-- but I also get a terrible taste from titanium too (different bad)
the 316 vapes perfect and the 316 claptons and fused Clapton's from advanced and lightnening vapes seem to vape smoother than the simple round wire coils with round wire from UD
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THATS KIND OF WHAT I DECIDED TO STICK WITHI also use that wire myself
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that or Kanthal with the boost function... -- that boost function actually works or has worked the past few days
Well i guess the only option we have for TC SS430 is the 28g Unkamen wire
I like the Unkamen SS430 28ga wire myself. I've always got a good vape using it. It's not like using 28ga Ni200 which was a royal PITA. Another (coil) leg bites the dust lolWell i guess the only option we have for TC SS430 is the 28g Unkamen wire
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Steve
I like it myself Steve. But it would be nice to have different gauges to choose from(Clapton coils)
That's a bummer considering my order just made it to JFK. I should have it this weekWell i guess the only option we have for TC SS430 is the 28g Unkamen wire
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Hey @Wingsfan0310 what happens if you accidentally load a pdf file onto your device. I was loading your updated setting for my vt133 and forgot to make it a ecig file. I caught myself and changed it to a ecig file and reloaded it. Just wondering what can happen if anything. Don't want to damage my mod. And this might be a dum question but im curious. Doesn't seem like it did anything. Thanks