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Geauxst

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3 week delay, lovely.
Looks like it wont reach me by the 7th, so I'm going to have to withdraw my name from the list.
Starting a new job as a truck driver, so wont really be home at any type of predictable schedule.
im very sorry to hear that man, glad you found a job thou

would it help if we just put you on the side and maybe when you have some down time you can let us know and we can send it your way ....let me know we can work it out for you if you like :)
 

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Inconsiderate huh you mean like holding onto a box for nearly 3-4 weeks and not responding with any update what so ever making other members think the box has been hijacked not even coming in and stating what youre trying to do so they dont worry.... but were inconsiderate for trying to locate the box of donations to get it moving again yeah

1.he took alot of stuff and left in in shambles but not by any means did he take everything this isnt a box of top notch gear or anything its a bunch of stuff others dont need that some people might need cause they havent advanced to that point in gear yet so what is "Garbage" as you so called it in a message is not that bad to others but how are they to know when you have to box for 3-4 weeks

2.while i appreciate you trying to make the box better its not your sole responsibility to make it right add what you can and send it along to the next person besides you hear about it on 5/15 when bguading got it and you received it 6/8 and it is now 6/25 thats 40 days you had to amass items to add in... you had time

3.read the rules its stated and was executed 6 times prior to you getting the box it should have been evident by then how it worked

4. he messaged you back on the 18th and told you about the two days so now you know its 2 days but 20th comes and still no shipping so no things arent fine to that point

5.admin ... im the only admin on this box RZA is the creator and leader he appointed me as admin cause he trusted me and he gave me a list of contacts incase his health takes a turn for the worse that i could continue the box and i promised him to to tell anyone the number or address cause im not that kinda guy i respect privacy... that being said i never even looked at the list until this issue popped up and RZA couldnt get you to respond he asked if i would try and contact you cause he was tired and spent to much time dealing with the situation to to relieve stress off of him i told him i would ... and i sent you a very polite text requesting an update on your status that you very "considerately" never responded to yet obviously read hence your rant here, as far as momabear getting your number i remember her telling about an incident at "Your Shop" with some nicotine being sold for some ridiculously low price and that you called her on your cell phone to talk to her a good bit while yall fixed that problem and yall have texted back and forth.... ever heard of caller id .... you gave her your own number and she got the shops number from the site that you posted

6.she called your shop because you wouldnt answer the leader of the box you wouldnt answer the admin so yeah she stood up and made a call and asked for the "owner" and your name and the guy at the counter didnt even know who you were it wasnt until we got ahold of jamie and explained to her what happened and told her we didnt want that shop to receive bad reviews cause of the acts of one person cause if people started in on you that shop would receive backlash as well

at this point we dont care if you add anything to the box you have had it for exactly 17days in hand its not fair to keep the box hostage from all the other members of this box 3-4 people have missed out because of the delay all we want is the box to move along man

and i hope you dont read this as if im chewing your ass cause im not you wanted to throw all this out in the open so im letting everyone in 6.0 see what the other side has delt with so they can see both sides of the story and make their own opinion on the situation im being as "considerate" as possible give the 17 days of drama i have endured having to answer all the questions with out any real answers to give them

Bottom line... You don't call someone at their place of business. I was taught to respect people's lives, to understand that life happens and to not assume anything , let alone insert myself in a manner that could be seen as disrespectful or threatening.

I have a busy life but try to help others out when I can. But getting nagged at by you guys when it was known that I was working on fixing the box was beyond disrespectful.

Drama? Are you seriously saying that you had to deal with drama because a box that had nothing in it wasn't being shipped? And when you say that people are missing out on not getting the box what do you mean? I assume that people would rather wait a couple days and receive a box with something in it.

Obviously you got all butt hurt by me telling the group, who deserved to know what the first guy did to THEIR box in the first place, but why wouldn't I? Hell why didn't you? I guess I'm unlike you. I'm an honest person who respects boundaries.

Oh and yes I understand caller I.D... I just wouldn't Google someone's work number (that I don't know) in the first place, its beyond creepy, but she did and I received a call from her there. Yes she told me that a gallon of Nicotine was added to the web page. But then told me her life's story, then about the box getting destroyed, then explain how she wanted to call the 1st guy's fiancee to tell her what he did and post things like "I know what you did" (In momabears exact words) on his webpage. So then when she later harrassed my co workers, asking about my ownership in the business etc... I did take it personal.

So that's why the box didn't get sent out. But thanks for clarifying all that or whatever that butt hurt response was. Next time just be honest with people.

I apologize to the rest of the group and wish you good luck with this one. You'll need it...

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This is what you're waiting for btw people. But he's right it's not garbage at all. There's some home made juice as well. Enjoy

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RZAwora

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Wow...just wow. Where to begin?
@Heather yes I'm fine. I've been reading more than posting. I'm still doing my job of coordinating and communicating both PIF boxes as and where needed. No worries. With both kids home now I've been a lot busier and I find my time spent doing other things. I've posted a couple messages here or there where I felt necessary, but you're right, I haven't been "chatty" like I was previously.
@zaroba I'm sorry to hear that this delay caused by @Obsidian... who was just trying to help everyone out caused you to now have to withdrawal from the box.

This again is why I tell everyone to communicate with me. The box wasn't "broken" the first guy didn't take "everything."
This box is just like any other PIF Box folks...it ebbs and flows...it grows and shrinks.

@Obsidian... just like @Geauxst posted already... yes, he is my admin here, and yes he has all contact info like I do. So no I didn't give anyone your number that I shouldn't have. As far as I know @MOMABEAR got your number from you when that whole problem with nic prices on the DIYVaporSupply website was discovered by her. No clue. Before you come in here making accusations and shit, get your facts straight. You are the one who stated earlier in this thread that you had an ownership in that shop, and that is probably why she called the shop to locate you since you stopped answering any form of communication from anyone.
Let's get some shit straight... on 5/24 I texted you and gave you a heads up and made sure you were still interested. Had you looked at this thread between the time you signed up and then, you would already have known what had happened to the box, and you would have known what was in the box before it came to you. Don't place any fault on anyone there but yourself. No secrets were kept from anyone in this thread, so if you think you are making some kind of revelation on what the "first guy" did...go back and read the fucking thread man!!! It wasn't any kind of secret.
Your response to me on 5/24 was "send it my way and I'll fill it up"

Then on 6/4 I text you and said it would headed your way in next day or two and was that still okay? Your reply, "Definitely"
6/9 I spoke with you via text, several messages back and forth. You confirmed you had the box, and I sent you the address of @Navymr for the 3rd time.
6/14 I texted you asking what was going on, did you send the box out yet? Your reply, "Oh nope been busy I'll send it out asap" "Sorry about that will you send me the info of the person I need to send it to again" So once again...now for the 4th time, I sent you the address for @Navymr, and you went on to tell me about your new Snow Wolf and how good it was.
6/16 I texted you asking about the status of the box, GOT NO RESPONSE.
6/17 I texted you again asking about the box. Your reply "sending it out tomorrow" "there's nothing in it. I'm trying to add some stuff"
6/18 I replied to you and said it needs to just get sent out already, even if nothing is added. It was here that I reminded you of the 48 hour turnaround time expected, but I figured you knew that from the original posting of the rules. Everyone else seems to know that, so I just assumed you did too. It didn't really matter though, because you had already told me you would send it but never did.
6/18 your reply to me was "Fine I'll pack it up with the garbage it came with. I was asking my local vape community to toss stuff in because of what the first guy did" I wrote back talking about I appreciate your efforts but it will build up and dwindle down, some take more, some leave more, that's how it works. It can't do anything sitting in one place, it has got to stay moving.
I told you on 6/18 that I appreciated your efforts, but they were above and beyond. Nobody expects one person to fill this damn box up with awesome shit. If someone does, then great, if not, then oh well. This is when you decided to stop communicating with everyone. That is why Momabear took it upon herself to contact you, and you didn't answer her, so she called YOUR shop!
Now, please just get the tracking # posted so the next person in line knows when to expect it. I really don't care if you put nothing in it and leave it as it was at this point. I HATE FUCKING DRAMA!! I have kids and a television if I want that. You're done with the box....that you're right! :)
 
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Vaperjim

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Good job @MOMABEAR. I'm not part of this box, but Moma only had to follow a link obsidian posted to find phone, address, a any info needed to find the guy.


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Geauxst

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Good job @MOMABEAR. I'm not part of this box, but Moma only had to follow a link obsidian posted to find phone, address, a any info needed to find the guy.


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Hes just trying to justify his actions by lashing out hence the "butt hurt" comment he's directing towards me and lashing out make momabear a villian when honestly she was just being a good person point is we've known her for alot longer than we've known him so which side of the story sounds truthful that's why me and RZA posted our sides of the story so you guys can make your own decisions on what happened

He says he speaks the truth and were hiding stuff yet all he's doing is slinging mud and casting blame the whole time me and RZA are quoting text andd forum messages had with him
Exactly @Vaperjim, and he thinks that was creepy. :) Sounds pretty normal to me.
you mean to say using a number someone makes public is creepy

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Obsidian...

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As you both stated you had my contact info. As I previously wrote you both didn't cross any lines and were probably just worried about the box because of what the first guy did.

That is all I said about either one of you until you went off about whatever.

As RZA stated I was in contact with him the whole time. Texted back and forth on the 18th and told him I would ship the box out.

Up to that point it was all good. I didn't get either @Geauxt text or @MOMABEAR texts from the 18th until the next day. Geauxst text was just about the tracking info. Which was totally fine... He just wanted to help RZA out because of scheduling etc.

What wasn't fine was what I have explained numerous times as clearly as possible. @MOMABEAR called up to my shop and bothered my co workers etc. Threatened to bash the shop on here...

I'm not trying to justify anything. I just told everyone what happened. Justifying would be making excuses. I have no excuses... I was busy, was fixing up the box and didn't know time mattered, that's on me. Once I found out it did I told you I'd send it out. Went into work the next day and heard about the call. Granted we laughed about it. But the fact is that it was creepy, disrespectful and unprofessional.

This is just for fun @Vaperjim... I have their info too. @MOMABEAR's name and address from the shipping label along with her phone number, both Geauxt and RZA's names and numbers along with the next guy the box is going to.

The difference is that I, along with anyone with a bit of decency and common sense, would never use it for anything other than the reason it was given to me.

Slinging mud and casting blame? For what? I just posted here to let people know what they're in for.


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Geauxst

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As you both stated you had my contact info. As I previously wrote you both didn't cross any lines and were probably just worried about the box because of what the first guy did.

That is all I said about either one of you until you went off about whatever.

As RZA stated I was in contact with him the whole time. Texted back and forth on the 18th and told him I would ship the box out.

Up to that point it was all good. I didn't get either @Geauxt text or @MOMABEAR texts from the 18th until the next day. Geauxst text was just about the tracking info. Which was totally fine... He just wanted to help RZA out because of scheduling etc.

What wasn't fine was what I have explained numerous times as clearly as possible. @MOMABEAR called up to my shop and bothered my co workers etc. Threatened to bash the shop on here...

I'm not trying to justify anything. I just told everyone what happened. Justifying would be making excuses. I have no excuses... I was busy, was fixing up the box and didn't know time mattered, that's on me. Once I found out it did I told you I'd send it out. Went into work the next day and heard about the call. Granted we laughed about it. But the fact is that it was creepy, disrespectful and unprofessional.

This is just for fun @Vaperjim... I have their info too. @MOMABEAR's name and address from the shipping label along with her phone number, both Geauxt and RZA's names and numbers along with the next guy the box is going to.

The difference is that I, along with anyone with a bit of decency and common sense, would never use it for anything other than the reason it was given to me.

Slinging mud and casting blame? For what? I just posted here to let people know what they're in for.


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I don't know what your employee told you but I was there when momabear made that call to your shop she didn't "threaten to bash your shop on here" she simply stated that she wouldn't want the shop to receive any bad reviews due to how one of its employees are conducting business in a thread meaning the actions you take people will hold against you and you have mentioned you run a diy vapor shop so action people take against you will also apply to your shop as well people will think we'll if he took a month to ship the box then if I order from his site I wonder how long it will take to ship my order


That's not bashing or slinging mud that's making you realize the repercussionsof the actions you are taking

And on another note you weren't in contact with RZA the "whole time" cause there was countless times he didn't get a response you said you didn't know about the 2 days until the 18th that's fine why wasn't it sent out immediately or even 2days after we actually talked about it and figured you would send it monday but you didn't then Tuesday you didn't so yeah by Wednesday I'd be calling any number I could find too


Its not creepy cause you gave all of us your address y giving us your site address and her intentions to call your shop to see if you are working to ask you to ship the box out but when she asked for the owner she got Jamie not you, guess you was out at the steam cleaners or something so once again no response on forum cell or work






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Geauxst

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@Obsidian look it boils down to this we get it...

You don't like @MOMABEAR...FINE

You wanted to inform people of the atrocities that were have hidden ....FINE

You no longer want to be part of the box .... FINE

You now know about the 2 day thing 18 days after you received the box ....FINE

You haven't given a tracking number for the box being shipped to navymr.....NOT FINE

We seem to only have one issue unresolved and to be frank I'm sure most of this box doesn't care about anything else except the questions I keep being asked by all the members

"Where's the box at, when is it being shipped, why is it taking so long, are we gonna lose the box, did the box get hijacked?"

You want to be helpful to me and RZA maybe you can answer those questions..... Or answer them with a tracking number either way its all that matters currently

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Obsidian...

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1. I do like @MOMABEAR, I actually have a little thank you package for calling about the nicotine.

2. Its completely okay to call and leave a message. Just "Is Rob there? No he isn't. Could you please just tell him to call name @ 222 222 2222 when he comes in"

3. Yes I got defensive after you guys became impatient when I had told you all that I was trying to hook the whole group up with Juice, Mods, RDAs, Subtanks, Atlantis, coils, wire, building kits, cotton bacon, etc... We just had vape expo and I needed to wait until that was all over so I could do that for you.

Finally, I realize that you don't care about that. That you just want the box sent so it's being shipped now. I'll let you know the tracking # when my guy gets back with it

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zaroba

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Thanks guys. But I'm really not worried about the box or getting stuff (sorry if my post sounded really pissed off, I understand Obsidian was trying to improve the box and that is a good thing). I knew about the 7th well in advance and even without the boxes delay there was a pretty good chance it wouldn't have arrived in time. It would have been close though so I was holding off on saying anything until I was certain.
I most likely wasn't going to take anything out of it anyway, was just going to put stuff in it. (kinda was my plan from the start)

Got plenty of juice since doing DIY and will be making a dozen 240mls of various flavors to take with me. I've got over a dozen RDAs so don't need more. I'm happy with my sigelei 100 watt and have a 150 watt on the way (which I didn't really need except to get more out of a 0.8ohm RDA I made). Have no plans to get any other devices since sigeleis are great and I'm not a collector. I don't see a need in having something I wont make good use of.

I can just PIF the unwanted juices via the forum or facebook groups.
 

Geauxst

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1. I do like @MOMABEAR, I actually have a little thank you package for calling about the nicotine.

2. Its completely okay to call and leave a message. Just "Is Rob there? No he isn't. Could you please just tell him to call name @ 222 222 2222 when he comes in"

3. Yes I got defensive after you guys became impatient when I had told you all that I was trying to hook the whole group up with Juice, Mods, RDAs, Subtanks, Atlantis, coils, wire, building kits, cotton bacon, etc... We just had vape expo and I needed to wait until that was all over so I could do that for you.

Finally, I realize that you don't care about that. That you just want the box sent so it's being shipped now. I'll let you know the tracking # when my guy gets back with it

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When you say "we became impatient" your talking about the group as a whole because them wording about the boxes where abouts is what made me and RZA worry about your status but regardless if you had all this stuff to do and collect then when RZA said "are you ready" when your clearly not you could have responded " nah man I need a week or so to collect some final gear for the box" and in return we could have skipped you letting the box continue on its way and when you got ready we could have sent it then and you could have filled it

Its not being considerate to me or RZA or anyone specifically its what's considerate for the box as a whole. you keep throwing blame around saying you didn't know this that and the other, but the fact remains is your actions is what lead us here

Now you may say I'm attacking you so I will use your own words to show you what I mean.... You say you didn't know about the two day rule ...k but you said rza informed you on the 18th... OK so now you know hey 10 days is to long I need to send it out.... Right....19th...no 20th.... Nope 22nd..... Nodda 23rd...zip 24th zilch that's 5 days by my count so then is when the calling was made at which time you "shelved the box" and started in on this whole argument

I just don't see how you can say were being unreasonable with the given situation I'm sure others would agree, but regardless I'm glad you shipping it out at this rate I think it's just best you post the tracking say your goodbyes and we part ways peacefully just my opinion

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And on that note I feel I'm have explained all that is needed to be, so if you have any further problems just pm me and we can talk there , and if any other member has questions on the situation feel free to pm me as well.

I just feel there is enough "walls of text" on here about this subject for one day lets just move forward

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Obsidian...

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Thanks guys. But I'm really not worried about the box or getting stuff (sorry if my post sounded really pissed off, I understand Obsidian was trying to improve the box and that is a good thing). I knew about the 7th well in advance and even without the boxes delay there was a pretty good chance it wouldn't have arrived in time. It would have been close though so I was holding off on saying anything until I was certain.
I most likely wasn't going to take anything out of it anyway, was just going to put stuff in it. (kinda was my plan from the start)

Got plenty of juice since doing DIY and will be making a dozen 240mls of various flavors to take with me. I've got over a dozen RDAs so don't need more. I'm happy with my sigelei 100 watt and have a 150 watt on the way (which I didn't really need except to get more out of a 0.8ohm RDA I made). Have no plans to get any other devices since sigeleis are great and I'm not a collector. I don't see a need in having something I wont make good use of.

I can just PIF the unwanted juices via the forum or facebook groups.
I'm sorry if I held it up. I had the same plan as you. Just wanted to add to it. I'd just opened 25 Kanger Subtanks for the Expo and was going to see how much Juice and Mods I could fit into a Large box but it takes time. Anyway like I said I apologize if I held it up. Tbh I never thought of this like a mad rush to take and add stuff in a day.

For some people paying $13 could be a lot and that's just for the medium box. So I was trying to think of a way to not have to send a Large box plus a medium around but I couldn't. So I'll try to figure a way to hook you guys all up.

I know that's not the point but the vaping community (around me at least) is just such a cool tight knit group of people that we always go a little overboard for each other.

I personally am using my SnowWolf 200W Temp controlled with a Deadmodz 28mm clear atty and a Vaporshark DNA40 with my subtank with nickel coils or a Darrenger with a single 12 wrap 28 awg nickel build in it.
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I have a Sigelei 150 with a 28mm Tobh and a ABS dual 18650 mech with a 28mm Plume Veil that travel with me as well. My tubes stay in my vape bag.

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Geauxst

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I'm sorry if I held it up. I had the same plan as you. Just wanted to add to it. I'd just opened 25 Kanger Subtanks for the Expo and was going to see how much Juice and Mods I could fit into a Large box but it takes time. Anyway like I said I apologize if I held it up. Tbh I never thought of this like a mad rush to take and add stuff in a day.

For some people paying $13 could be a lot and that's just for the medium box. So I was trying to think of a way to not have to send a Large box plus a medium around but I couldn't. So I'll try to figure a way to hook you guys all up.

I know that's not the point but the vaping community (around me at least) is just such a cool tight knit group of people that we always go a little overboard for each other.

I personally am using my SnowWolf 200W Temp controlled with a Deadmodz 28mm clear atty and a Vaporshark DNA40 with my subtank with nickel coils or a Darrenger with a single 12 wrap 28 awg nickel build in it.
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I have a Sigelei 150 with a 28mm Tobh and a ABS dual 18650 mech with a 28mm Plume Veil that travel with me as well. My tubes stay in my vape bag.

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I appreciate what you tried to do but that is what I tried expressing to you is there us a weird enigma with these pif boxes most people don't care about the gear their excitement comes from receiving a box if unknown gear and picking out anything they want its almost like Christmas morning opening gifts so when holding up the box your basically holding up their Christmas morning

As far as laying 13-20$ for the shipping most all items in the box can easily cover that cost most juice bottles run 10-15$ drip tips are 2-5$ mechs run 10-20$ everyone can find something to justify spending 13$ to ship it out again

That being said to many look at these boxes and they they will upgrade their current setup... No you won't but you will add some tthing you may not have tried yet

Nice setup I almost exclusively run my SIG 150 Oni with turbo v2 and my wolf hammer mech with Velocity

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This is when you decided to stop communicating with everyone. That is why Momabear took it upon herself to contact you, and you didn't answer her, so she called YOUR shop!
Now, please just get the tracking # posted so the next person in line knows when to expect it. I really don't care if you put nothing in it and leave it as it was at this point. I HATE FUCKING DRAMA!! I have kids and a television if I want that. You're done with the box....that you're right! :)

I'm a single dad with Sole Custody of my 12 year old son. I run 2 businesses and prioritize things in my life. I apologize that my #1 priority wasn't sending the box. It was up there on my priorities to fill it up and send it out when it had some cool new toys for everyone to have. I'm laid back and don't stress over a little PIF box. The fact that you do makes me wonder why you do it at all. The simple fact that you guys were worried that I wouldn't send it at all explains a lot.

In our vaping community there's no betrayals, no insecurities, we all just have faith in other. So this has been a complete culture shock for me. I talked with @MOMABEAR for like 3 hours at work one day. Had told all of you what I do and simply said "Sure I'm in send it my way and I'll hook it up"

For us that's all that would ever have needed to be said. But somehow a lot got lost in translation. I was planning on it taking a week or two and wouldn't have had you send it to me if I had known it is such an urgent, structured, stressful thing. Imho it should be fun... Put a reasonable time limit on it and just let it roam around.

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I'm a single dad with Sole Custody of my 12 year old son. I run 2 businesses and prioritize things in my life. I apologize that my #1 priority wasn't sending the box. It was up there on my priorities to fill it up and send it out when it had some cool new toys for everyone to have. I'm laid back and don't stress over a little PIF box. The fact that you do makes me wonder why you do it at all. The simple fact that you guys were worried that I wouldn't send it at all explains a lot.

In our vaping community there's no betrayals, no insecurities, we all just have faith in other. So this has been a complete culture shock for me. I talked with @MOMABEAR for like 3 hours at work one day. Had told all of you what I do and simply said "Sure I'm in send it my way and I'll hook it up"

For us that's all that would ever have needed to be said. But somehow a lot got lost in translation. I was planning on it taking a week or two and wouldn't have had you send it to me if I had known it is such an urgent, structured, stressful thing. Imho it should be fun... Put a reasonable time limit on it and just let it roam around.

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Well if you were here and read up and the situation as RZA stated before we had a few bad apples and rough bumps 2 people have already had to be removed before you even received the box and back then RZA stressed the importance of people communicating with us if you popped in from time to time and let us know what's up or even texted us with updates that would have been fine you could have taken that long but all we got from you is ....I'm sending it...I'm sending it again......I'm sending it yet again......he's stressed for a good reason its the 3rd speed bump for his box

And as far a reasonable time frame look at most the delivery dates most everyone has it for about 4-5 days not 48 hrs we are reasonable with the time frame but I guess we should just let everyone take a month with the box like you did ....just to be reasonable you know

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Obsidian...

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I appreciate what you tried to do but that is what I tried expressing to you is there us a weird enigma with these pif boxes most people don't care about the gear their excitement comes from receiving a box if unknown gear and picking out anything they want its almost like Christmas morning opening gifts so when holding up the box your basically holding up their Christmas morning

As far as laying 13-20$ for the shipping most all items in the box can easily cover that cost most juice bottles run 10-15$ drip tips are 2-5$ mechs run 10-20$ everyone can find something to justify spending 13$ to ship it out again

That being said to many look at these boxes and they they will upgrade their current setup... No you won't but you will add some tthing you may not have tried yet

Nice setup I almost exclusively run my SIG 150 Oni with turbo v2 and my wolf hammer mech with Velocity

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Those are nice too... Haven't seen anyone using a Hammer in a minute. That's awesome. So you like chaser attys? One of the guys that works at the shop has a Turbo... It's almost been thrown out the door numerous times. But then Pope came in with the a Nuke and I after hearing that kazoo I told him I was cool with the Turbo as long as he doesn't get a Nuke

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That mod is similar to hammer but more sub ohm friendly the battery goes under the Atty instead of under the fire button so it doesn't look like an inhaler

And honestly if people would learn to use the turbo correctly IE LOWER AIRFLOW its actually a very impressive Atty but noone what's to learn , I'm constantly blowing better clouds with similar builds on my turbo. With less effort

And the nuke....tsk tsk tsk yeha the nuke is garbage its a toy there's nothing to learn other then don't waste your money on it

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Well if you were here and read up and the situation as RZA stated before we had a few bad apples and rough bumps 2 people have already had to be removed before you even received the box and back then RZA stressed the importance of people communicating with us if you popped in from time to time and let us know what's up or even texted us with updates that would have been fine you could have taken that long but all we got from you is ....I'm sending it...I'm sending it again......I'm sending it yet again......he's stressed for a good reason its the 3rd speed bump for his box

And as far a reasonable time frame look at most the delivery dates most everyone has it for about 4-5 days not 48 hrs we are reasonable with the time frame but I guess we should just let everyone take a month with the box like you did ....just to be reasonable you know

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Yeah I clearly had no idea lol. I just got a new phone on the 16th? Whenever I asked you to resend his address. I replaced my LG G3 with the G4 and didn't even have your number in the new phone. I hadn't looked at this thread since my last post a couple (few?) months back so I was completely in the dark.

I'm now starting to realize what it was all about now fuck... Totally would have just tossed whatever I had laying around and sent it out that same day lol

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Yeah I clearly had no idea lol. I just got a new phone on the 16th? Whenever I asked you to resend his address. I replaced my LG G3 with the G4 and didn't even have your number in the new phone. I hadn't looked at this thread since my last post a couple (few?) months back so I was completely in the dark.

I'm now starting to realize what it was all about now fuck... Totally would have just tossed whatever I had laying around and sent it out that same day lol

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Its hard to express what I was trying to say in text but all this back and forth I'm a little upset having to deal with it like this but more so I'm just trying to explain that to you but I'm glad your seeing what I was trying to say shit happens I just wish we could communicate better... Doesn't help I'm dealing with the same thing in my job right now a bunch of drama due to lack of communication between departments and in stuck in the middle FML

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BenJammin

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Sorry for butting in but I think it might help to say that in other pif boxes they have had problems with people getting the box and just keeping it... like @Geauxst was saying, if communication was kept up it probably would have been fine (idk as I'm not part of this group or RZA or geauxst) because people would have known what was up with the box. When you stopped responding is when people started to worry that the box was a goner and they'd have to start all over again getting stuff for the box etc... basically, the cause for all of this was lack of communication, end of story.

To make sure my point wasn't lost via text, please be aware that I'm not trying to stir up any more drama or even asking for a response, just figured it might help to show that this vaping community is very laid back and probably as awesome if not more awesome than the vaping community you're used to.

I'll leave y'all alone now. Btw I'm part of box 5.1 where a lot of the people here are part of as well, that's why I'm trying to help...

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1. I do like @MOMABEAR, I actually have a little thank you package for calling about the nicotine.

2. Its completely okay to call and leave a message. Just "Is Rob there? No he isn't. Could you please just tell him to call name @ 222 222 2222 when he comes in"

3. Yes I got defensive after you guys became impatient when I had told you all that I was trying to hook the whole group up with Juice, Mods, RDAs, Subtanks, Atlantis, coils, wire, building kits, cotton bacon, etc... We just had vape expo and I needed to wait until that was all over so I could do that for you.

Finally, I realize that you don't care about that. That you just want the box sent so it's being shipped now. I'll let you know the tracking # when my guy gets back with it

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Well the box does come around 2 times so if you think its full of junk at the rate we are going that gives you approx 6 months to round up a bunch of "not quit junk" for the second coming. That is if your not voted off the island. I myself am a forgive and forget type but the rest will need some convincing
 

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I sincerely apologize if anything I said or did caused any member of this group a delay in receiving the box, or worse, not being able to participate at all. It was never my intention to do anything but share the blessing of people reaching out to each other in kindness to share their unwanted vape gear with others that may need for it with the people in this group.
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bondo

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I sincerely apologize if anything I said or did caused any member of this group a delay in receiving the box, or worse, not being able to participate at all. It was never my intention to do anything but share the blessing of people reaching out to each other in kindness to share their unwanted vape gear with others that may need for it with the people in this group.
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Don't blame yourself momaB. Nothing you did or could've done impeded or sped up the shipping.
I can't speak for everyone but I appreciate your concern and actions.;)
I have no beef with where the box is or how long it takes to get to me but I can understand the possible frustration of those that can no longer participate due to the situation.
I stay out of it because it really doesnt concern me but from what I've read here,blame can't be placed on one individual. The communication between the admins,box holder and thread could've been a little better but let's look at what this really is. We each gave up a small portion of our unwanted stuff to send along to a group of complete strangers in hopes that they would all be honest and considerate.
the first person (Bgaulding I think?)grabbed some stuff and left the box in shambles and I wrote it off because I didn't really care. Then this stuff happens and TBH,I still don't care. I don't feel that I'm owed or deserve anything (especially appologies)because IMHO we aren't really "paying it forward",we're just getting rid of stuff in hopes of different stuff...
it's a neat idea and a good way for a group of people to get to know each other but none of this should get under anyone's skin save for the admins that continue to invest their time to make sure it's on track.
and one last time,I can't speak for anyone else but I appreciate the fact that obsidian tried to pad the box with extra goodies. I also appreciate the admins for the time and dedication aswell as everyone that contributed to the initial box.

SNAFU's happen.
it's a part of life and should almost be expected when there are 20 people from all walks of life and schedules participating in what basically boils down to a group trade.

Sorry for the long winded reply but that's my .06 on the subject.
cheers,
 
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Geauxst

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Don't blame yourself momaB. Nothing you did or could've done impeded or sped up the shipping.
I can't speak for everyone but I appreciate your concern and actions.;)
I have no beef with where the box is or how long it takes to get to me but I can understand the possible frustration of those that can no longer participate due to the situation.
I stay out of it because it really doesnt concern me but from what I've read here,blame can't be placed on one individual. The communication between the admins,box holder and thread could've been a little better but let's look at what this really is. We each gave up a small portion of our unwanted stuff to send along to a group of complete strangers in hopes that they would all be honest and considerate.
the first person (Bspaulding I think?)grabbed some stuff and left the box in shambles and I wrote it off because I didn't really care. Then this stuff happens and TBH,I still don't care. I don't feel that I'm owed or deserve anything (especially appologies)because IMHO we aren't really "paying it forward",we're just getting rid of stuff in hopes of different stuff...
it's a neat idea and a good way for a group of people to get to know each other but none of this should get under anyone's skin save for the admins that continue to invest their time to make sure it's on track.
and one last time,I can't speak for anyone else but I appreciate the fact that obsidian tried to pad the box with extra goodies. I also appreciate the admins for the time and dedication aswell as everyone that contributed to the initial box.

SNAFU's happen.
it's a part of life and should almost be expected when there are 20 people from all walks of life and schedules participating in what basically boils down to a group trade.

Sorry for the long winded reply but that's my .06 on the subject.
cheers,
One tiny clarification not a big deal... brandondurr was the fist person who left the box in a disrespectful manor and bgaulding was the one who spent all her time cleaning up the box didn't even take anything from it and added a bunch of stuff and sent it on its way

I just didn't want her to not get credit for all she did for us

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bondo

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One tiny clarification not a big deal... brandondurr was the fist person who left the box in a disrespectful manor and bgaulding was the one who spent all her time cleaning up the box didn't even take anything from it and added a bunch of stuff and sent it on its way

I just didn't want her to not get credit for all she did for us

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Thanks for clearing that up and I apologize to @bgaulding for my mistake.
Thanks for sorting that out.
 

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Been gone for a bit, as my play finally opened for performance and I've been 6a-6p at work and then 7p-2a at the theatre until last week. So, safe to say I've missed a ton of shit.

@bgaulding thanks for the cosmic fog. Very sweet of you. I want to reciprocate, but I've needed a moment to breath.

@Obsidian... Thank you for the effort you put into building the box back up. I know it took time, and I also know you didn't have to do that. It's a very sweet gesture. The only misstep I see is that you didn't seem to provide an actual timeline for when you thought you might be able to get it back out again. And from reading previous PIF threads, I know there a fear that someone would simply keep the box and give the finger to the group. Live and learn, brother. And thanks again for what you did.

@zaroba can I send you something? Anything? I have a shit ton of juice, wire, and wick. I hate that you might not be able to participate further.

@ everyone else . There's no tone of voice on the Internet, but human nature is to apply one. When things seem to get heated, take a sec and read what you're about to post. Sometimes a lack of punctuation, or use of caps can tone a post into something angry that is never intended to be. Just sayin... Some of the previous posts come from people I view to be wonderful and passionate, but read to be quite spiteful.
 

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Alrighty folks...so I had an unexpected hospital visit Friday that turned into a surgery and couple nights stay. Thankfully I'm now home and going to relax in my bed for awhile. I'll catch up with you all later on. I'm happy to see that things have resolved here and we can get this box back on track.
 

bkind

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Alrighty folks...so I had an unexpected hospital visit Friday that turned into a surgery and couple nights stay. Thankfully I'm now home and going to relax in my bed for awhile. I'll catch up with you all later on. I'm happy to see that things have resolved here and we can get this box back on track.
In my prayers my friend! Glad you're on the mend now. Hopefully this is the end of it all for ya.
 

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Alrighty folks...so I had an unexpected hospital visit Friday that turned into a surgery and couple nights stay. Thankfully I'm now home and going to relax in my bed for awhile. I'll catch up with you all later on. I'm happy to see that things have resolved here and we can get this box back on track.

Hope you're ok.
 

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Been gone for a bit, as my play finally opened for performance and I've been 6a-6p at work and then 7p-2a at the theatre until last week. So, safe to say I've missed a ton of shit.

@bgaulding thanks for the cosmic fog. Very sweet of you. I want to reciprocate, but I've needed a moment to breath.

You are very welcome @dantefire

@RZAwora Glad you are doing good & I hope you have a speedy recovery!
 

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Alrighty folks...so I had an unexpected hospital visit Friday that turned into a surgery and couple nights stay. Thankfully I'm now home and going to relax in my bed for awhile. I'll catch up with you all later on. I'm happy to see that things have resolved here and we can get this box back on track.
Best of wishes to you on your recovery.
 

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Hi, guys! I've been traveling so haven't been online. I'm all caught up on this thread now, though. I'm glad the box is back on the move.
Happy vaping!
Welcome back yay!!!!!!!

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