I have to disagree. Aliens offer a huge difference in both flavor and vapor production than a fused Clapton does. FCs used to be my "go to" build before I became fairly adept at making aliens. I'll still use FCs on occasion when I need something quick, but the only build that beats an alien is a staple coil and it's variants.They look pretty, but it vspes just like a fused clapton and just srent worth the pain in the ass that is making them
How so tho? All it is is a mukti core clapton where the wrap has a wavyness to it. Ive had a legit alien build (friend of mine gave me a 26x3 38g alien staged with twisted 26) it was a very nice vape, but at the same time ive made fused claptons thst hit just as well or better even. I just dont notice any difrence when i vape them vs a fused claptonI have to disagree. Aliens offer ahuge difference in both flavor and vapor production than a fused Clapton does. FCs used to be my "go to" build before I became fairly adept at making aliens. I'll still use FCs on occasion when I need something quick, but the only build that beats an alien is a staple coil and it's variants.
See, the staging was the issue. A dual alien setup will yeild a better vape than a single staged alien. The key is surface area and wicking. The alien has superior wicking as far as fused claptons go with the curved wrap legthening the "channel", if you will, across the face of the coilHow so tho? All it is is a mukti core clapton where the wrap has a wavyness to it. Ive had a legit alien build (friend of mine gave me a 26x3 38g alien staged with twisted 26) it was a very nice vape, but at the same time ive made fused claptons thst hit just as well or better even. I just dont notice any difrence when i vape them vs a fused clapton
If you can spare the wire I get my best results by running 2 Clapton wires parallel to one another while claptoning. When all is said and done, remove one of the wires by running your drill reverse the initial direction. Every gap should end up identical. You can Clapton the wire without a swivel but I highly recommend using one while removing the wire.My stagered skills are improving me thinks.
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Also my buddy picked up his build, hes in love with it.
I think Kent hills video on aliens says it all, a properly wrapped alien wicks juice from one end of the coil to the other.See, the staging was the issue. A dual alien setup will yeild a better vape than a single staged alien. The key is surface area and wicking. The alien has superior wicking as far as fused claptons go with the curved wrap legthening the "channel", if you will, across the face of the coil
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I recently got the LUC6 charger and I am damn glad I got it, I paid $70 and it came with 8 25R's...should of waited a week....the LUC6 is now $20...Just ordered 2 new pair of 25Rs and an eFest luk charger. Hopefully the new charger can last as long as my current NiteCore!
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I made a small loop to do the spacing. It's the final wrap that I still need practice onIf you can spare the wire I get my best results by running 2 Clapton wires parallel to one another while claptoning. When all is said and done, remove one of the wires by running your drill reverse the initial direction. Every gap should end up identical. You can Clapton the wire without a swivel but I highly recommend using one while removing the wire.
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I'll have to take your guys words for it for now. I've made a meh alien and it just didn't do anything for me and it's a giant pain in the cock to make. Right now I'm gunna focus on staples and framing for right now. Many when I get a fuck ton of wire I'll start playing with them again.See, the staging was the issue. A dual alien setup will yeild a better vape than a single staged alien. The key is surface area and wicking. The alien has superior wicking as far as fused claptons go with the curved wrap legthening the "channel", if you will, across the face of the coil
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Thats still a great deal. Figure 5 bucks a battery you got the charger for just 30I recently got the LUC6 charger and I am damn glad I got it, I paid $70 and it came with 8 25R's...should of waited a week....the LUC6 is now $20...
Get the Sony VCT4s. I bought 10 HB6s for the same reason (Noisy Cricket and other mechs) and the 1500mAh rating is quite limited. I wish I had gotten the VCT4s instead. That's what I'll get next time.I'll pick up some HB6's in a week or two for the noisy cricket when I wanna Chuck clouds at the wall
Interesting. I'm hesitant to buy VTC4s even from Liion though I have every belief that Liion sells the authentic ones, I had one arc on me in my NiteCore .... Ah whatever it's been so long. I'll definitely grab some in a week or so. ThanksGet the Sony VCT4s. I bought 10 HB6s for the same reason (Noisy Cricket and other mechs) and the 1500mAh rating is quite limited. I wish I had gotten the VCT4s instead. That's what I'll get next time.
I bought VTC5's from them and they have been great.Interesting. I'm hesitant to buy VTC4s even from Liion though I have every belief that Liion sells the authentic ones, I had one arc on me in my NiteCore .... Ah whatever it's been so long. I'll definitely grab some in a week or so. Thanks
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You sir just might be a god! Beautiful freaking build!
The staggered framed staple is a bit unique:
Staggered 26n80
4x.5kA1
Staggered 28kA1
Staggered and fused with 36n80
The Clapton is spaced between every two staggered spaces
Then staged with a staple fused Clapton:
7x.5kA1
Warmer than the last build but I'm thinking I'm gonna take those two outer staple fused wraps off and see how it performs
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I want to know everyone's favorite flavor build...all you flavor junkies come out of the woodwork...
Too kind... You're too kind good sir.You sir just might be a god! Beautiful freaking build!
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Alien Framed Staple
- 8x0.5mm KA1 Ribbon Cores
- 2x26g KA1 Frames
- 38g N80 Alien Binding
They're really about the same.Speaking of ribbon. How much easier is it to work with .5 versus .4 ribbon?
I dunno, dude - It's pretty low ohm. At 4.5 wraps you're pushing 32 amps on a single coil build.Damn near out of ribbon wire...but I'm gonna have to try that. How do you think that'll perform on a tube mech?
With 8 x .5 Ribbon, 26K and 40N80 Clapton Wrap (Not Alien) its .12 Ohm Single Coil for me...Its almost the same build I did a few posts ago..I dunno, dude - It's pretty low ohm. At 4.5 wraps you're pushing 32 amps on a single coil build.
See... wanting to order ribbon wire then I realize I need that darn Mech mod.. Grr.With 8 x .5 Ribbon, 26K and 40N80 Clapton Wrap (Not Alien) its .12 Ohm Single Coil for me...Its almost the same build I did a few posts ago..
I'll second chef alien framed stapleI want to know everyone's favorite flavor build...all you flavor junkies come out of the woodwork...
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Or...A Snow Wolf, Laisimo L1, X Cube 2, Hohm Wrecker, DAN200, or other Devices that can fire atleast .07 and up...See... wanting to order ribbon wire then I realize I need that darn Mech mod.. Grr.
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Hmm but a Mech mod is jus that... It could fire lower if it had to.. I suppose it's just raw battery power and I could regulate a build that low with said devices.Or...A Snow Wolf, Laisimo L1, X Cube 2, Hohm Wrecker, DAN200, or other Devices that can fire atleast .07 and up...
You'll probably never even want to fire at .07 or below, that's around a 70amp draw, and chances are it would be a very hot vape and you box would heat up very fast. Even with dual vtc4's I try to keep the lowest builds at .09Hmm but a Mech mod is jus that... It could fire lower if it had to.. I suppose it's just raw battery power and I could regulate a build that low with said devices.
I've never even researched the DNA200 chipset or devices. I gather they fire 200 watts real power not pwm. And I see they can fire low... Very low... Safely.
I would have picked up a HOG the other day when chief brought it up but there's no way I could put 4 batteries in it. That would be all I typically have charged! But price is good on it..
Matt
Unless I drop a couple ribbon wires?I dunno, dude - It's pretty low ohm. At 4.5 wraps you're pushing 32 amps on a single coil build.
True. I will begin looking at some regulated devices.You'll probably never even want to fire at .07 or below, that's around a 70amp draw, and chances are it would be a very hot vape and you box would heat up very fast. Even with dual vtc4's I try to keep the lowest builds at .09
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Nothing in vapeland is worth arguing over haha. Whatever the reason, the quality on the new one is much better. Maybe the fact that they don't speak english just made em easier to deal with haha, who knowsI'm glad you came back and corrected that, i figured from a little research a while back they were USA based but wasn't going to argue with someone like yourself over it lol.
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Exactly lol, if you have some time could you post some deck/ barrel shots of it? I'm a bit torn on it the more I see it. One question, is it shorter than the original?Nothing in vapeland is worth arguing over haha. Whatever the reason, the quality on the new one is much better. Maybe the fact that they don't speak english just made em easier to deal with haha, who knows
Yes, but then you sacrifice a bit on the flavor. The question was what everyone's favorite flavor build is. But yes, if you drop a couple of ribbons, it will raise the resistance (and lower the necessary amperage) to a more manageable level.Unless I drop a couple ribbon wires?
Dude, that's cool as shit!Anyway..here's the Fruit of my Labors..
I'll build it your way and try it on my girls fuchai if it doesn't work out on my stingray-x.Yes, but then you sacrifice a bit on the flavor. The question was what everyone's favorite flavor build is. But yes, if you drop a couple of ribbons, it will raise the resistance (and lower the necessary amperage) to a more manageable level.
Damn, that made me laugh!Damn that sounded dirty
Sure thing. There was a side by side shot in that last post, its quite a bit shorter. Let me see if i can dig the original outta my bag, i can take anotherExactly lol, if you have some time could you post some deck/ barrel shots of it? I'm a bit torn on it the more I see it. One question, is it shorter than the original?
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Pretty sure you are thinking of the Gemini from Vaporesso.It's just to make the Griffin more like another RTA - "Keeping up with the Joneses" so to speak. I can't remember which RTA they're trying to keep up with, though.
I personally have no need for it whatsoever.
Here's a little side~by side, i'll try and remember to snap a few next time i drop a new build in there All the parts between the v1-v2 are interchangeable as well. The mouthpiece, airflow, and decks are all compatible with each other. So you could still use the old deck with the new cap, or just screw the new mouthpiece on to the old atty, or use a colored airflow ring from the v1 on the v2 etc.Exactly lol, if you have some time could you post some deck/ barrel shots of it?