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MannyScoot

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That Modfather and the tank by Scottua are sick !!!!!
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Ok, first attempt at a hybrid.
I hit a paperclip half way through and it twisted the wire pretty bad. I'm lucky I saved it at all.





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What do you do to keep the transition tidy? If you look close you can see part of my alien hanging. All in all it was a good first try and I learned alot. Shouldhave used 36 for the interlock so it's more obvious...it blends in now.
I usually use Ribbon sliders for all my wires...then I unravel them carefully if they cant be slid off. Where the wrapping meets another I will always use the second wrapping to clapton of the last strand of the joining wrap, tieing down the first wrap. Then I will pull the last wrapping tight and around a side and clip while pulling it with tension.....then try not to touch it and it will hold steady. Always try and make sure all the wrap ends are on the inside side of the coil..
 

mikekscholz

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IMG_1885.JPG made up some alien fused claptons this morning... 2X 26g Kanthal cores wrapped in 36g N80. This is the first time i got my stretch nearly perfect... its finally getting easier. wow... side by side with a reg fused clapton with the exact same specs otherwise and this alien is giving me amazing flavor.... in a velocity!
 
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How do yall get the good color shots? I have only done 2 builds in 316L but I can't seam to get good color shots. I do get color it's just not great like I have seen.
 

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I usually use Ribbon sliders for all my wires...then I unravel them carefully if they cant be slid off. Where the wrapping meets another I will always use the second wrapping to clapton of the last strand of the joining wrap, tieing down the first wrap. Then I will pull the last wrapping tight and around a side and clip while pulling it with tension.....then try not to touch it and it will hold steady. Always try and make sure all the wrap ends are on the inside side of the coil..
Ok cool. I though about doing that but I was afraid the interlock would mess up because it's too thick. Thank you kindly.
 

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I made a pair of 26g parallel, 4/5 wrap with an ID of 4mm. I wanted to see if I could build a pair of coils that would eliminate spitback and to see if it was possible to build a coil that would NEVER run dry on me. Well so far its working great. I built them and it read .18 Ohms but now after wicking, it is reading at .24 ohms o.o. That's odd, It read .18 on my mod and separate ohm reader before wicking and then .24 after wicking on my mod/ohm reader. Whatever though I'm not "teh super subohm doode" or anything, As long as it doesn't run dry on me and I can get amazing clouds and flavor, that's all I care about. I was a bit discouraged at first about the coil because I just received my 100ml Fruit Loops and 100ml Banana Nut Bread flavors from code3vapor and they have no flavor in them at all lol. Must need a few weeks for steeping. i thought it was the coil giving me huge clouds/no flavor at first. Then I put in a watermeleon that has been sitting around for 2 months and WOW. Flavor o.o

Quite happy with the coils for now, it's doing everything I was shooting for.
 

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View attachment 65531 made up some alien fused claptons this morning... 2X 26g Kanthal cores wrapped in 36g N80. This is the first time i got my stretch nearly perfect... its finally getting easier. wow... side by side with a reg fused clapton with the exact same specs otherwise and this alien is giving me amazing flavor.... in a velocity!

Cool. I've done 2x 24g and 4x 28g but never thought to do 2x 26.
I'll have to try that.

I feel like aliens perform better than fused claptons but I don't know...it might just be perceived performance like racing stripes or flames. They do wick differently.

Good job either way.
 

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How do yall get the good color shots? I have only done 2 builds in 316L but I can't seam to get good color shots. I do get color it's just not great like I have seen.
Wash your coils with Dawn Dish Soap and scrub with a toothbrush, air dry them or heat them with 10w.
Then start off around 15w and hold until you see color starting...it can take 10-15 seconds just keep hitting and then holding the fire button. Increase the wattage by 5w to step up the heat for different colors ut after a certain point you wont see anymore colors so go slow.
 

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Wash your coils with Dawn Dish Soap and scrub with a toothbrush, air dry them or heat them with 10w.
Then start off around 15w and hold until you see color starting...it can take 10-15 seconds just keep hitting and then holding the fire button. Increase the wattage by 5w to step up the heat for different colors ut after a certain point you wont see anymore colors so go slow.
Aahhhh ok. See I started at like 50. I also didn't wash them. Thanks

Do you wash them out of the rba or with them hooked up? And if you wash them while they are out of the rba do you have them trimmed up ready to go in the rda?
 

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On a side note I said earlier that I purchased cotton bacon. Seems like it's working out much better than my regular cotton. Also I think I have always used too little cotton or something because to get my boreas working right I have my cotton in there pretty tight. I have to kinda work the cotton into the coil instead of just sliding it through if that make sence. I don't twist or compact it like I have seen some do but I do have to carefully tug it. And when I had to replace some cotton it didn't pull out easily. Dose this sound like yall experience?

At the moment I am using 7 wraps of the 3 core 28/36 fused clapton on a 7/32 drill bit. It's working out nicely, very good flavor.
 

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First stagger. I only did a few inches.
I'll make normal sized ones when I can.
Thanks raymo! It worked but started to twist in the last inch...the frames twisted but the ribbon didn't.
I might need to get farther from the swivel or use more clips.



And the stagger practice.

 
First stagger. I only did a few inches.
I'll make normal sized ones when I can.
Thanks raymo! It worked but started to twist in the last inch...the frames twisted but the ribbon didn't.
I might need to get farther from the swivel or use more clips.



And the stagger practice.


Use Neodymium magnets to keep frames together. I have bought 10pcs for 2$ on ebay, works perfect when dealing with multiple core builds. It prevents cores from twisting each other.
P.S. Outer cores started twisting, because your ribbon was horizontal. try it vertical
 

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Aahhhh ok. See I started at like 50. I also didn't wash them. Thanks

Do you wash them out of the rba or with them hooked up? And if you wash them while they are out of the rba do you have them trimmed up ready to go in the rda?
I actually wash mine every step. Finshed wire-wash, Coiled-wash, installed-wash then ready for pics...but Im going for perfection, if your only taking pics here and there just wash before heating them up and you will be good to go.

First stagger. I only did a few inches.
I'll make normal sized ones when I can.
Thanks raymo! It worked but started to twist in the last inch...the frames twisted but the ribbon didn't.
I might need to get farther from the swivel or use more clips.



And the stagger practice.


I like to be about 3-4" away from the swivel and 2-3" from the drill myself. Try using less tension while wrapping...that can cause alot of unneeded issues also
 

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I went back for some more shots of yesterdays Interlocking Inlaid Enigma CSSFC

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Geekvape just sent me their new Toolkit and the Lynx RDA...
The toolkit is actually decent, the tools are pretty well constructed and dont feel cheap like other toolkits. Especially the scissors and pliers, the Tab Mini is higher quality then the original, its heftier, smaller and fires my builds better.
Anyways...this was what I tossed into the Lynx:
SPECS: 8 x .3R/38KD/40KD
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Good looking dripper. Geek Vape is one of the companies I like alot.
As much bang for your buck as possible.
Like bottom airflow on a RDTA.
Coils are nice too. They seem to match the dripper.
 

MannyScoot

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View attachment 65531 made up some alien fused claptons this morning... 2X 26g Kanthal cores wrapped in 36g N80. This is the first time i got my stretch nearly perfect... its finally getting easier. wow... side by side with a reg fused clapton with the exact same specs otherwise and this alien is giving me amazing flavor.... in a velocity!
Practice makes perfect...... Looks good.....

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Where's the fun in that? I'd buy wire. Lol.

I think you're right raymo. I think a combination of tension and dead swivels are doing that. They jerk pretty badly. I just keep oiling them and they keep spinning. But I can do a normal stagger fuse with no twist at all.
I need a better job.
 

MannyScoot

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Can it do more that just straight claptons?
Seems iffy.
Just talk raymo into building you a drone setup

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You can do several style of coils.... Watch the video and the box has several size holes for different wire lay outs.... You can run 3 or 4 wires down the center and a higher gauge on the outside and make aliens

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You can do several style of coils.... Watch the video and the box has several size holes for different wire lay outs.... You can run 3 or 4 wires down the center and a higher gauge on the outside and make aliens

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Interesting. I'll look more into it tomorrow. Crapy phone service out here in the sticks.

It's twice as much as my harbor freight drill which has a good chuck for building imo


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MannyScoot

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Interesting. I'll look more into it tomorrow. Crapy phone service out here in the sticks.

It's twice as much as my harbor freight drill which has a good chuck for building imo


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For someone who wants to experiment and build high quality coils, this will work..... Quick fast and easy.... I saw the video amd was like what the fuck and I've been fucking around with all that shit .....

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MannyScoot

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26g ss316l twisted, not tightly wrapped as I want juice inbetween the coils.
subzero rda, organic cotton
0.16ohms, perfect for a 2 cell parallel box mod
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If it works hell yeah..... This is quad 316L ohming at .06 going into my Modfather RTAC360_2016-11-02-01-06-01-024.jpgC360_2016-11-02-01-01-31-411.jpg



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Where's the fun in that? I'd buy wire. Lol.

I think you're right raymo. I think a combination of tension and dead swivels are doing that. They jerk pretty badly. I just keep oiling them and they keep spinning. But I can do a normal stagger fuse with no twist at all.
I need a better job.

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Staggering:
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I use this for clapton/decore prep/ fused claptons/ staggering for my builds and many other things...you'd be surprised on how many things a simple spool tamer can accomplish all just by turning it off center and adjusting the celestial band...
 

mikekscholz

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to do the 2x26 alien, I wrapped my initial clapton on a 28g.... Im going to experiment with a 2x28g alien by wrapping initial clapton around a 30g.... I just got home from work with a care package from kidney puncher waiting for me :)
 

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Did another braid today since the wife enjoyed the one yesterday and wanted it. Actually started the vertebraid last night and took a bit more than an hour to finish. Did the staggerton today. Very frustrating build. Had to pinch every half cm.

Staggerton vertebraid. 2x28gka1/8x.4ka1/36gn80 stagger and fuse with 38gn80. 7x36gn80 vertebraid Single coil at .10 ohms
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Staggering:
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I use this for clapton/decore prep/ fused claptons/ staggering for my builds and many other things...you'd be surprised on how many things a simple spool tamer can accomplish all just by turning it off center and adjusting the celestial band...
That strap is called a spool tamer? EBay?

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to do the 2x26 alien, I wrapped my initial clapton on a 28g.... Im going to experiment with a 2x28g alien by wrapping initial clapton around a 30g.... I just got home from work with a care package from kidney puncher waiting for me :)
As long as the decore is close to 3x smaller than your alien cores it'll work.

30=.255mm
28=.321mm
26=.405mm

I use 27g for 10ply staliens.
 

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@raymo2u I've noticed some people stack their ribbon vertically, some horizontally. Is there any reasoning behind it? I would think horizontal would wrap better, vertical would produce better.. or am I just insane?

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For a staple coil of any variety it must be bent on edge. Otherwise there's no benefit. You might as well use round wire.
The staple coils main benefit is lots of grooves and low mass. A 16ply staple is pretty fat looking but doesn't need much power. Staggering over that lets air and juice flow in and out more freely.

If it's not on edge, it's not a staple.

@raymo
I just noticed the genious of your floating cores. Even if you mess up, you can reuse the ribbon.
I wish I had some 0.3mm
The 26g/0.4mm even with only 6 ply takes gobs of power to heat. And that's only what will fit in the griffin.
I'm going to try 28g frames but I'm pretty sure it'll be a bit harder.
 
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whiteowl84

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Use Neodymium magnets to keep frames together. I have bought 10pcs for 2$ on ebay, works perfect when dealing with multiple core builds. It prevents cores from twisting each other.
P.S. Outer cores started twisting, because your ribbon was horizontal. try it vertical
Just saw this. My ribbon is on edge. Bad camera.
 

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For a staple coil of any variety it must be bent on edge. Otherwise there's no benefit. You might as well use round wire.
The staple coils main benefit is lots of grooves and low mass. A 16ply staple is pretty fat looking but doesn't need much power. Staggering over that lets air and juice flow in and out more freely.

If it's not on edge, it's not a staple.

@raymo
I just noticed the genious of your floating cores. Even if you mess up, you can reuse the ribbon.
I wish I had some 0.3mm
The 26g/0.4mm even with only 6 ply takes gobs of power to heat. And that's only what will fit in the griffin.
I'm going to try 28g frames but I'm pretty sure it'll be a bit harder.
Yea if you mess up you can slide the ribbon down the line further or unwrap everything and reuse them...I usually end up using them for Ribbon Sliders for another build after..

Something I was playing with today...Its not as clean as I wanted it so Ill probably end up remaking it but I have a concept that I really want to pull off..

Double Tsuka/Stitched Interlocking Enigma Hybrid
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For a staple coil of any variety it must be bent on edge. Otherwise there's no benefit. You might as well use round wire.
The staple coils main benefit is lots of grooves and low mass. A 16ply staple is pretty fat looking but doesn't need much power. Staggering over that lets air and juice flow in and out more freely.

If it's not on edge, it's not a staple.

@raymo
I just noticed the genious of your floating cores. Even if you mess up, you can reuse the ribbon.
I wish I had some 0.3mm
The 26g/0.4mm even with only 6 ply takes gobs of power to heat. And that's only what will fit in the griffin.
I'm going to try 28g frames but I'm pretty sure it'll be a bit harder.
Then why are people selling horz. Coils claiming they are staple?

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Then why are people selling horz. Coils claiming they are staple?

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Geekvape and Coilart and others are using Horizontal Ribbon for Aliens and SSFC because they need to be idiot proof in resistance....though the quality of all Ive seen for Aliens and SSFC and more are straight garbage. Its not recommended unless your shooting for higher resistance then .15 but your loosing the properties that they are known for and making them more spitty.

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I dont know about anyone else but I find those pretty damn horrendous...they would pass as visually defective in my line up for sure...I also think its retarded that they use 26g frames and 34g for the wrap/fuse on them...Making the Ribbon light up fast and hot while the frames and wrap stay cold, even after a few draws. That is the epitome of a flawed build.

You cant polish a Turd...
They should look similar to this or not be sold at all

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Then why are people selling horz. Coils claiming they are staple?

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What raymo said and this:
If you took them to court it would get thrown out. There is no legal definition for a staple coil.
People are going to take advantage where they can.

And yeah, I wouldn't pass those coils.
They use 34g for aliens...that's fine. I did it till I could use 36 but they locked together tight. Not that loose crap.
 

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Yeah a good buddy had some store bought aliens that looked like straight shit, stuff I threw out trying to make them

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OMG I am so blown away about this and I know its kind of braggy and gloating but I never even thought I would be considered and I want to shout it from the rooftops.

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It sucks that I have to cancel the Kidneypuncher Sponsorship Contest but I dont think theres any other company I would do that for..

Congrats Raymo. You deserve it!
I just got my first sponsor. Augvape. Pretty stoked.
 

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