There's no "if" I've been successful with alien wire as the pic below shows. Yeah it's a 3 core build and even though it was only secured to the middle wire at the swivel it came out alright. No snapped wires like I have been getting with triple staggered fused clapton at least. I'll be trying the method of securing the 2 outer wires at the swivel and seeing how I get on.
Ok cool good luck!There's no "if" I've been successful with alien wire as the pic below shows. Yeah it's a 3 core build and even though it was only secured to the middle wire at the swivel it came out alright. No snapped wires like I have been getting with triple staggered fused clapton at least. I'll be trying the method of securing the 2 outer wires at the swivel and seeing how I get on.
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Fucking nice th3t
What I did and I'm no expert was clip 3 wires straighten them out. Secured each wire to the swivel. Followed the three cores keeping them flat with my fingers and clipped even. Then secured to drill and used a key ring to keep flat moving it every inch.There's no "if" I've been successful with alien wire as the pic below shows. Yeah it's a 3 core build and even though it was only secured to the middle wire at the swivel it came out alright. No snapped wires like I have been getting with triple staggered fused clapton at least. I'll be trying the method of securing the 2 outer wires at the swivel and seeing how I get on.
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Thats tight. Keep it up!Nothing crazy..maybe my 3rd or 4th build to date. I tried something new and did 10 wraps of 24gauge kanthal around a 3.0mm bit..ohming out at a 0.47 vaping at 52 watts..my favourite so far it's SMOOTH AF. Nice balance of clouds n flavour
You know, this was going to be the part where I make a build and take pictures of the process and then write several paragraphs with a broken digitizer just for you like I've done for so many others here. I'll make aliens for customers instead.
It's alright, someone has already furnished me with the relevant information that resulted in a clean build, without any attitude I might add. No skin off my nose. Maybe I would of got there quicker if you would have asked questions about how I build rather than speculating that everything is off about my building. Like because I'm a newbie here I mustn't have a jar of glue. Hopefully those buying the coils off you don't have to watch you blow your own trumpet before getting them.
I'm not butt hurt about you coming over giving me your two cents. You do have an attitude because you were too eager to tell me everything was wrong about my building while knowing nothing about my technique. You haven't watched me build so you don't know everything's off. Even now in your statement you have attitude. I don't need telling I'm doing a great job, thanks. Pointers are helpful but you can't give specific pointers without asking questions. Of which there were none of in your first reply. So yeah, try and tell me you were giving constructive criticism, the posts speak for themselves.
I just checked out that dpro. Very cool setting for builds. How wide are the postless holes? Big enough for wide stags?
KR you said you have alot of build experience like over a year and you have most "wires" down to a T. Touting your own sucess and then asking questions about basic building processes doesnt add up to me. Good luck getting help in the future.
He is a dick and was being short BUT what he said was true and I pointed out to you how what he said was true. Your build prep was way off. You shouldn't be snapping wires when building fused Clapton or aliens. In another thread he was a dick about regulated mods but as it turns out he was right though a little more explanation is helpful and I found it. Point is I wasn't butt hurt and I am backing him up now.
I would like to add for new builders not to be afraid to post people know it's hard at first. Y'all should see some of the great builders first coils. And as a new builder there wouldn't be any criticism only pointers or the good job keep at it. But as stated if asked for help ir opinions criticism will be offered to help better you.decided I wanted 2 of those staggered fused claptons. I agree that @whiteowl84 is an amazing builder and judging by prevous posts he meant no offense, he is by far one of the top builders on this forrum and could teach most anyone a thing or two. as hard as it is sometimes, we have to put our ego aside and re think the methods that worked for previous builds. as far as you can get building on your own for a year I can guarentee that you will get twice as far in the same time if you take the advice you find in this thread. the way I was raised is all criticism is constructive, it just depends on how you look at it. there are some amazing builders here and you cant post here and not expect a great builder to give their input if you say that you are having problems. Thats what makes this place so awesome.
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Rite! You don't know how little you know until you know it. Lol
Welcome to the forum man! Have you looked into a jewelers vice? Its very helpful keeping the cores flat in the beginning but down the strand it gets more tricky. Also, have you tried using less pressure when fusing? That was my problem for a while. I wanted everything nice and tight but I was holding the spool too tight during the fuse and it would triangle my cores every single time. Now I focus on fusing with the least amount of pressure possible.
Dude you NEED a new camera so we can really see the beauty that you made! Thats impressive as hell brother even if the pic is a little hard to see. The camera isn't giving you justice. Do you have a macro lens yet for your phone?
Thank you signman, much appreciated. I can't say I've thought about buying a jewellers vice, I do have a jewellers hammer on its way to me atm. I have tried a few things to keep the wires parallel. Originally it would just triangle up as you've said,that's what gave me the idea about twisting it at the end because the wire just looked a beast to me, kind of like a fractal. The advice about floating the middle wire helped tremendously at keeping the wires flatter, if I found it was starting to bunch together I would just flatten it out with some ceramic tweezers and continue as normal. I think it turned out pretty nice when I finished but it took longer than I would have liked. Practice makes perfect though so hopefully it will just get easier.
Hell yea thats great! One little piece of advice and you nailed it! Floating the wire helped me out tremendously....especially with ribbon.Thank you signman, much appreciated. I can't say I've thought about buying a jewellers vice, I do have a jewellers hammer on its way to me atm. I have tried a few things to keep the wires parallel. Originally it would just triangle up as you've said,that's what gave me the idea about twisting it at the end because the wire just looked a beast to me, kind of like a fractal. The advice about floating the middle wire helped tremendously at keeping the wires flatter, if I found it was starting to bunch together I would just flatten it out with some ceramic tweezers and continue as normal. I think it turned out pretty nice when I finished but it took longer than I would have liked. Practice makes perfect though so hopefully it will just get easier.
Thanks for the advice man.
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while a hand vise is on my wish list for sure, I found dropping to a higher gauge wire made controlling the tension a lot easier. Though I still struggle with holding my wrap spool to tight. Particularly when I start to concentrate (my fingers tighten reflexively). I feel like I'm almost ready to try some 40~40+ gauge and N80. It's really weird, my goal was to make some simple coils that work good for me, which I did. And now all the sudden wrapping patterns will pop into my head out of no where and I feel compelled to keep building my skill. Anyway welcome.
Thanks for the welcome. I have used thicker gauges of wire and agree it does make things easier. I'm not confident enough to use such small gauges yet, although it is appealing to me to try miniature versions of some of the more complex coils. Have you tried the method of strapping a screwdriver to your finger and only using your thumb for tension? I found that worked quite well for me when wrapping coils but instead I use an Allen key so the spool doesn't fall off if I'm not paying attention to the angle of my wrapping hand. I know what you mean about things just popping into your head you just want to try. I didn't intend to ever get an rda when I first started vaping, now it's become more of a hobby than an alternative to smoking haha. I do quite enjoy making my own juice as well and experimenting there but maybe that's a conversation for another thread, I'm not sureWell at least you can be relatively certain it won't get harder
It's a self wicking beetle. In fact if you look a little closer, despite the one-angled lighting conditions you can see it's already juiced up (in beetlejuice).
Instead of bindings and a clothespin, you can just use a keyring:
Here's one goofy build I tossed in the DPRO. Seems like an awesome atty so far. Domed cap, goon tips, and a postless deck with the holes cut in right direction. I never use RDAs but this is one I'll probably use around the house for smaller 14ply and under builds.
This is the offset staggerton. It didn't turn out like I'd hoped and I knew it was heading that direction as I put the first fuse on the second layer but I figured I'd truck on and see what it looked like.
Here's my revised SSFC method.
Make a 20" stick of spaced clapton, glue the ends and middle then cut it all apart so you have 2 10" frames.
Get your 8" stack of ribbon ready by wrapping 3 times on each end with 40g then lay it flat on the table.
Bring your frames to either side and center it between them so there's an equal amount of frame sticking out on both ends. Glue the stack and ribbon together, bind lightly in the gaps if you need to hold the ribbon in place. Usually I don't use sliders or bonding on SSFCs but I grabbed this ribbon from two failed builds so I had to make sure it wouldn't fuck around.
Now just bind both ends of the frame together, put one in the drill, hook one in the swivel. When you get close to the binding just hook a clothespin to it then keep fusing. As the drill turns the binding will unwrap and fall off.
The binding is alot easier on SSFCs than the sliders but they aren't as good imo.
https://youtu.be/ptYnRbDevi4?t=1277
Thanks for your advice. You can see for yourself in the video I linked the keyring doesn't make it wobble in any way, but that's only because the keyring is positioned so it's nice and center making it spin around its own center of gravity. Else, yes it would be swinging everything around just like a skipping cord, but I wrapped some masking tape around my keyring to keep it from wanting to slide off of the frames, and, to keep the keyring from messing up the spacing, I used some more masking tape to act like a cushion between the keyring and the frames. Without the keyring for some reason my ribbon stack just wanted to keep moving away from the frames. Next time I do this type of build I'll remember to give your method a try.
Looking good. I have to order that dpro. Cant believe someone finally made a postless that has holes oriented the right way. Great idea using the clothespin to remove the wire binding as you fuse!
Here's one goofy build I tossed in the DPRO. Seems like an awesome atty so far. Domed cap, goon tips, and a postless deck with the holes cut in right direction. I never use RDAs but this is one I'll probably use around the house for smaller 14ply and under builds.
This is the offset staggerton. It didn't turn out like I'd hoped and I knew it was heading that direction as I put the first fuse on the second layer but I figured I'd truck on and see what it looked like.
Here's my revised SSFC method.
Make a 20" stick of spaced clapton, glue the ends and middle then cut it all apart so you have 2 10" frames.
Get your 8" stack of ribbon ready by wrapping 3 times on each end with 40g then lay it flat on the table.
Bring your frames to either side and center it between them so there's an equal amount of frame sticking out on both ends. Glue the stack and ribbon together, bind lightly in the gaps if you need to hold the ribbon in place. Usually I don't use sliders or bonding on SSFCs but I grabbed this ribbon from two failed builds so I had to make sure it wouldn't fuck around.
Now just bind both ends of the frame together, put one in the drill, hook one in the swivel. When you get close to the binding just hook a clothespin to it then keep fusing. As the drill turns the binding will unwrap and fall off.
The binding is alot easier on SSFCs than the sliders but they aren't as good imo.
Hey whiteowl i just spotted something else you did! In the 6th pic i zoomed in to see you took the binding wire for the stack and wrapped it around each side of the frames! Frickin great idea. Does that let you pull lightly on the stack to get the ribbon perfect before binding the other end? That one trick may make me a floating convert. Im gonna try it!
Got these today all Kanthal .95 ohms/pairFINALLY got a pair...... .80 Kanthal......5mm diameter..... Voltrove time.......
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Man 12" inches for (1) Coil...........
Got these today all Kanthal .95 ohms/pair
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If you hold your tounge slightly to the left and bite it with your right upper canine tooth, use your left hand to cover your left eye, and make sure you hold the spool with your toes you'll nail it every time!
You bought another set of mondo heaters for the modfather?! Hehe you run the biggest coils of anyone i know! It looks like you may have a tough time setting them up and getting hot spots out. The decore they used was a little big. See the gap where the alien wrap goes around the frame? Not trying to be hyper critical just something to watch for when your setting them up.Got these today all Kanthal .95 ohms/pair
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thanks @SignMan i was going to post that tip, but you beat me to it...but i would like to add, that sometimes i only half cover my eye and hold my breath...
