Ill look back in the thread and try his method. Thanks!
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Ill look back in the thread and try his method. Thanks!
Well i was using 2 baggies for my paraclap but for these i like just cutting 2 equal length pieces off the spool.with 40g/42g and up i feel like the bags and my hands create to much tension I am practicing both methods though and im sure my method and technique will change. Its such a fine line of letting the 2 wires glide off your finger then rubbing off your fingers.. I honestly use more tension making aliens then i do paraclapping (if im using baggies)
Last week I got the broadside 26650.
Nice. How's she working out for ya?
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No glue needed on staggered ribbon stacks. Just try the ziplock trick like whiteowl described its great advice.
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Looks like a nice roomy deck that. Might have to stretch my money to that as well haha
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Mtl...thats funny. Is the airflow that tight? Our is that just a joke
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It's almost that tight, but that's only because it's a .68 ohms coil build I made so I have the big air hole at the front completely closed off... only the two really small air holes in the back are (almost wide) open so yeah, it's actually pretty tight. It could be almost as tight as this:
Damn right, some beautiful colours there4 core alien, 4x 28g SS and 40G SS wrap. Her color game is gooood
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Your colorfu is strong. Pharaoh? I havent built on mine in so long mabey its time for another single coil build4 core alien, 4x 28g SS and 40G SS wrap. Her color game is gooood
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Looks good. You started using whiteowls tips to color! I haven't built with SS wrap in a long time. It colors so nice
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Ya know, I wanted to like the Pharoah RTA so I built a massive groove fused build. I think it was 0.08 as a single coil, big 3 wrap bastard. I still couldn't get a warm vape. No idea what I can make to top it unless I make the whole thing out of SS.
You have the RDA or RTA?
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Its the original one that he called an rdta. Maybe ill understand what a real hot vape is when i get my broadside owl lol
keep at it man. throwing away wire is a side effect of making progress, so try not to feel too bad about it
have a look at boneyard coils, tiger/tidal/reef, helix and other twisted variations if you want to keep trying new stuff that doesnt require claptoning. they all vape a little differently and have different things to teach a new builder...
welcome to the thread
You have a drill and swivels?
What are you trying to clapton with for it to fail?
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I really gotta know also... Pics also would be great
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I'm just a noob myself and I would guess I have thrown away a good 200' of wrap wire minimum. It's why I have been sticking to kanthal 36g. But that being said just Clapton shouldn't fail even if your free handing it. Give some details and I'm sure the guru's in here will have you strait in no time.
36g SS310 around a core of 2x 28g NiChrome.
Actually, I got my first (semi)-successful dual core build in my test box. It's technically not a "clapton" per se, but it looks pretty nifty I think, LOL! I'm getting it slowly but surely.
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Champton, your making a fused clapton? Do you use just one 20" piece and bend it in half at swivel?
It looks like you are leading too far. The wires should make more of a "T" when you Clapton. In other words perpendicular with maybe a slight lead.
Fold a 20" piece of 28g in half. Bind the open end then put it in the drill and hook the closed end on the swivel.
Pull the slack out of the 28g with the drill, doesn't take much tension. Get your 36g started and keep the spool about 12" from the core. Keep the spool at a 90° angle from the core and open the drill up, only use as much tension on the spool as you need to keep from getting gaps an overlaps.
Now just go full speed till you get to the end.
More drill tension will kill your swivels and make them lock up causing twist. Too much spool tension will cause twist but alot more than the swivels will.
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I made some interlocks recently so I figured I'd show you guys how to cheat the paraclap for them. I highly recommend 40g for interlocks because it's much easier to do than 38g and 40g is going to perform much better here.
So you need a decore that's 50% longer than what you're trying to alien. I'll explain later but it's best to do these one coil at a time.
So assuming you need two 4" sticks you make your first piece of clapton about 3.5" to 4" long. Start the first few wraps with a gap in them and clapton with no tension at a 90° angle. By no tension I mean don't try to slow the spool down, just keep it from falling off your fingers. When you get 4" or so cut the end leaving a tail about 1" long. Reverse the drill and spin it a few times and use your fingers to stop the tail to loosen the slinky. It only needs about 3 rotations.
Now start your new clapton in the gap and clapton it the exact same way, no tension and keep that 90° angle. It'll clapton twice as fast as it did before so you'll need to move with it. When you get to the end slow down and wrap until the new wire has the same amount of wraps as the old one and your tails meet up. Cut the spool off and twist those tails together. Go to the beginning and pull both fuses off together until you've unwraped the spacing you started with and you're into the good slinky. Twist them together too. If you need to loosen the slinky you can. Now repeat to get 2 slinkys.
Grab the twisted ends and stretch like a normal alien. Wrap your alien core as usual but make sure you're about 8" from the core with your hand. Wrap till you get 4" of interlock and cut the excess slinky off leaving about 1". Fold it into a hook and hook your next slinky onto it.
I only do this one coil at a time for a few reasons. Firstly the clapton will only stretch so far. If your first clapton is 8" long it'll start getting tight when you get to the end and just overlap. Also it's hell working with a stretched interlocking slinky that's long enough for 2 coils. There's a good possibility it'll start to separate or snag if it's all over the floor.
I twist the ends together and start/stop in the same place so both decores have the exact same length and stretch. If they don't it'll look horrible.
Staying 8" from the core as you alien will help keep the decores lined up which will give you a more consistent pattern.
Interlocking 40g is about as easy as a 36g alien but it's more critical that you keep the exact same tension and angle the whole way to get a perfect pattern.
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So you need a decore that's 50% longer than what you're trying to alien. I'll explain later but it's best to do these one coil at a time.
So assuming you need two 4" sticks you make your first piece of clapton about 3.5" to 4" long. Start the first few wraps with a gap in them and clapton with no tension at a 90° angle. By no tension I mean don't try to slow the spool down, just keep it from falling off your fingers. When you get 4" or so cut the end leaving a tail about 1" long. Reverse the drill and spin it a few times and use your fingers to stop the tail to loosen the slinky. It only needs about 3 rotations.
Now start your new clapton in the gap and clapton it the exact same way, no tension and keep that 90° angle. It'll clapton twice as fast as it did before so you'll need to move with it. When you get to the end slow down and wrap until the new wire has the same amount of wraps as the old one and your tails meet up. Cut the spool off and twist those tails together. Go to the beginning and pull both fuses off together until you've unwraped the spacing you started with and you're into the good slinky. Twist them together too. If you need to loosen the slinky you can. Now repeat to get 2 slinkys.
Grab the twisted ends and stretch like a normal alien. Wrap your alien core as usual but make sure you're about 8" from the core with your hand. Wrap till you get 4" of interlock and cut the excess slinky off leaving about 1". Fold it into a hook and hook your next slinky onto it.
I only do this one coil at a time for a few reasons. Firstly the clapton will only stretch so far. If your first clapton is 8" long it'll start getting tight when you get to the end and just overlap. Also it's hell working with a stretched interlocking slinky that's long enough for 2 coils. There's a good possibility it'll start to separate or snag if it's all over the floor.
I twist the ends together and start/stop in the same place so both decores have the exact same length and stretch. If they don't it'll look horrible.
Staying 8" from the core as you alien will help keep the decores lined up which will give you a more consistent pattern.
Interlocking 40g is about as easy as a 36g alien but it's more critical that you keep the exact same tension and angle the whole way to get a perfect pattern.
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How's the airflow on that DPRO? I have one on the way from 3F.
Meh, still trying to figure out how to work my camera. Here's a better shot so you can see what I got going.
No, I'm cutting 2 and just putting it right in the chuck. Check out Squiddoode's video "Back to Basics: The Fused Clapton." That video's working out great for me, as you will see below.
Making progress. Now I just gotta figure out how to make the wraps tighter, but at least it's starting to look like a "clapton" now. Actually, I'm curious how this one's going to be different from the twisted wires I'm currently using.
No, I'm cutting 2 and just putting it right in the chuck. Check out Squiddoode's video "Back to Basics: The Fused Clapton." That video's working out great for me, as you will see below.
Making progress. Now I just gotta figure out how to make the wraps tighter, but at least it's starting to look like a "clapton" now. Actually, I'm curious how this one's going to be different from the twisted wires I'm currently using.
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Oh your freehanding it, i cannot help you with that buddy but youll get it.
Yeah because I was an idiot and forgot to look on the goddamn package before I bought my effing swivels. These barrel swivels bind on me, causing the wire to twist. That's what was preventing me from getting a good clapton wrap before.
Fortunately, they're only a couple bucks at the fishing shop in town.
Fortunately, they're only a couple bucks at the fishing shop in town.
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These are the ball bearing swivels that I use - never have any problems with them.
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I have no idea how the squid does that freehand work. Mabey he demos it that way so folks will give up on bluiding their own and buy his coils! Lol
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Lest we all forget, my first build SUCKED!!!
But, I've managed to get better with time and practice.
For those of you who haven't seen it yet, here's my first ever build from about 2 years ago:
But, I've managed to get better with time and practice.
For those of you who haven't seen it yet, here's my first ever build from about 2 years ago:
I found it quite simple. Hardest part was getting the 38g around the cores to get it started. After that, you kinda let the wire guide you as you spin the drill while holding slight pressure on the cores to keep them from wiggling about (but not so much as to cause the cores to twist together.) Then again, I'm double-jointed, so holding the wire taut like Squid does was easy for me.
Oh, and make sure to hold the wire so it's straight the whole way. My previous build was the result of not holding the wire straight, not too little tension like I thought.
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Do yourself a huge favor and get some swivels spinnin. Then youll know what simple is! Faster too. Lol... youll start to see your claptoning looking much better. Just trust us its the only way to go.
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Doesnt look too bad. Just looks like you didnt keep the left coil under tension throughout the wrap process.
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If I'd have seen that 2 years ago, I'd have jokingly suggested you refrain from wrapping your coils with tree branches, as that never works out well.
Just messing with ya dude.
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That's okay - I expect to be messed with whenever I post that.
I've gotten a little better since then...
Yeah I'm sure it's much easier. It looked way easier in the video. I'll know both methods this way, then I'll just use whatever way's easier for the type of coil I want to build. I like to experiment.
Tighter like this?
This is 44g and you will get there before you know it! I give you credit for learning freehand tho.
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Needed another build for my DotMod Petri and since FS is one of my ATF builds I decided to miniturize it. Pushing my work on higher guages all the time.
Mini FS: 44gN/2x32gN80/8ply .2x.1N80!
A normal FS take me about 20min but this little bastard was a chore. It took me 2 hours! I do like the Pure Atomist .2 Ni80 ribbon tho. Works very well!
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Mini FS: 44gN/2x32gN80/8ply .2x.1N80!
A normal FS take me about 20min but this little bastard was a chore. It took me 2 hours! I do like the Pure Atomist .2 Ni80 ribbon tho. Works very well!
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Naughty looking pair that
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