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Battery life is as good or better than the coils that come with the mini vengeance tank. I've been using it all day and its still going strong.
When you do post your Feedback thread just make sure to "mention" me and Ill pop on right after.

@VaporCarp its not a "intricate build" but working with gauges that high for cores and outer wrap become a nuisance....they like to break/snap when you making them on the drill...
 

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I'd strongly recommend picking some up, it will super charge your mini volt without killing the battery. And the flavor is amazing.
What were the specs?
 

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30N80/40N80 for the Claptons and 2x32N80/42N80 for the Fused Claptons I think.
Cool, that's what I was wondering. I of course fried the 30g FCs you made me (doh) but I remade some, but still liking them best at 40w, was wondering if you went even higher gauge on these. I'll have to give 32g a shot, but have to admit I'm hesitant as I know what a pain they will be. You'll never stop getting me to do things that I know will be a pain will you? :p I appreciate you for it though.
 

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Cool, that's what I was wondering. I of course fried the 30g FCs you made me (doh) but I remade some, but still liking them best at 40w, was wondering if you went even higher gauge on these. I'll have to give 32g a shot, but have to admit I'm hesitant as I know what a pain they will be. You'll never stop getting me to do things that I know will be a pain will you? :p I appreciate you for it though.
Try some 2x36N80/48N80...then get back to me about being a PITA!! I made them for the TFV4 one day and they melted at 32w....I pulsed them at 10w LOL
 

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Try some 2x36N80/48N80...then get back to me about being a PITA!! I made them for the TFV4 one day and they melted at 32w....I pulsed them at 10w LOL
I'm not as crazy as you are good man. Though, I am willing to give 32g a shot. I can't imagine doing 36g though, I mean I can't actually even see 36g when it's spinning in my drill... I have terrible eyes.
 

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I'm not as crazy as you are good man. Though, I am willing to give 32g a shot. I can't imagine doing 36g though, I mean I can't actually even see 36g when it's spinning in my drill... I have terrible eyes.
I have a Astigmatism so I wear contacts, it helps but I still use a magnifier on a swivel for some of these builds...like that Framed Fused Clapton's Core I did...even with that Mag glass on a swivel its almost invisible at 54N60 :eek:
 

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I have a Astigmatism so I wear contacts, it helps but I still use a magnifier on a swivel for some of these builds...like that Framed Fused Clapton's Core I did...even with that Mag glass on a swivel its almost invisible at 54N60 :eek:
Keratoconus here. I've been contemplating getting some Jewelers glasses, should do the trick. But, between fat clumsy fingers, a horribly cramped setup space, and bad eyes, well I got plenty working against me, but I make do with it.
 

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Keratoconus here. I've been contemplating getting some Jewelers glasses, should do the trick. But, between fat clumsy fingers, a horribly cramped setup space, and bad eyes, well I got plenty working against me, but I make do with it.
As long as your trying and having a good time doing it, I cant ask much more from you :cheers::vino:
 

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As long as your trying and having a good time doing it, I cant ask much more from you :cheers::vino:
Amen to that, and again, thanks for the constant inspiration. Thanks to you and a couple others I moved on to fused claptons and haven't turned back ( no build in use is below that). Right now I'm working .67Ω 30g fused claptons in my mini volt.
 

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Amen to that, and again, thanks for the constant inspiration. Thanks to you and a couple others I moved on to fused claptons and haven't turned back ( no build in use is below that). Right now I'm working .67Ω 30g fused claptons in my mini volt.
Might want to also experiment with one larger wire and a smaller wire in the fused clapton for the MV, One to heat up faster then the other but only enough to speed up ramp time...you wouldnt need as much wattage to boost the same variant coil using both larger gauges.
 

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Might want to also experiment with one larger wire and a smaller wire in the fused clapton for the MV, One to heat up faster then the other but only enough to speed up ramp time...you wouldnt need as much wattage to boost the same variant coil using both larger gauges.
I've been experimenting with that with the TM² I have, more in the 1 SS 1 Kanthal but I have in there right now a strand of 24g SS and 28g 3Xtwisted fused. Works quite lovely. Staging inside a FC, still trying to dial in perfection, but haven't hit it yet. I need to get some more wire... but I haven't exhausted the possibilities with what I have yet so I'm going to keep experimenting. I was booked all weekend so not much time to really build, but I have a few ideas on deck.
 

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I've been experimenting with that with the TM² I have, more in the 1 SS 1 Kanthal but I have in there right now a strand of 24g SS and 28g 3Xtwisted fused. Works quite lovely. Staging inside a FC, still trying to dial in perfection, but haven't hit it yet. I need to get some more wire... but I haven't exhausted the possibilities with what I have yet so I'm going to keep experimenting. I was booked all weekend so not much time to really build, but I have a few ideas on deck.
I would try a 24KA1/28g 316L SS Fused Clapton, they should perform relatively the same as the resistance is about the same but the SS should ramp much quicker. The Multistrand for KA1 is a great idea also! Could always Half Stagger also...
 

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I keep seeing these "Groove Fused Claptons...at first I didnt understand what they meant by grooved...some looked like they were trailing the clapton grooves with a outer wrap and others looked like a Fused Clapton with a "groove" down the middle....well I went both ways and then some as usual for you guys!
I did a Fused Clapton in the middle...Just to be a Kool Kid.
Fused Clapton Cores are 26N80, Clapton Cores are 24KA1, Clapton wire on all is 36N80, groove fusing wrap is 42N80

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Guess what Im working on now ;) ( Im actually going for 6-8 Core Staggered Single Coil tomorrow...this was just a test!)
It is a PITA working with these small as wires making Staggered...I usually like using a mid 20's gauge for Cores and mid 30's for Clapton and Fuse wire....I used 36N80 for the cores and 40N80 for the Clapton and 42N80 for the Fuse Wire...Its about the size of a 2x26g/36g Fused Clapton and its 4 Cores!

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I just am in awe of both you and C.C..I am amazed at the talent,skill and ingenuity you put into your work ray.I have a magma I wanna work on with a couple of the styles ya have.I'm into the polishing as I have done weapons parts but not the coils like you have.man,you have my head going in many directions.thanks for your talent and pics..
 

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Well Ive wanted to remake that 3 core Staggered Fused Clapton again but this time make it without having to beat it with a hammer to make it half decent looking...I got it this morning on my first try...I have to admit I was pretty damn impressed wit myself! There is only one spot where the clapton didnt line up in the whole wire, it looks wavy because of the untwisting but this whole length is FLAWLESS!!!!!

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Damn that is some incredible work.....!
 

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I just am in awe of both you and C.C..I am amazed at the talent,skill and ingenuity you put into your work ray.I have a magma I wanna work on with a couple of the styles ya have.I'm into the polishing as I have done weapons parts but not the coils like you have.man,you have my head going in many directions.thanks for your talent and pics..
Ive also polished some of my parts...Im hesitant to tear down my Kimber TLE Pro II and polish the safeties/GS/SL and more but I may someday. Ive polished my Ruger Mark II and my SR9 Barrels though...Im sure it could be better though :D

I hope they inspire something out of everyone, thats the whole reason I started the thread, so others would try something they saw and possibly have a variation or new coil concept from being inspired by them. Hope to see something from you on the "Post You Builds" Thread soon!
 

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yeah got the custom target.it's not easy (emotionally) to tear down a pricy piece but have done soooo many polish and jeweling that it becomes second nature.it's like your coils man..do enough,ya don't think twice,well maybe on the kimber.lol.just in awe ray........I'll never make it to your pay grade..lol
 
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yeah got the custom target.it's not easy (emotionally) to tear down a pricy piece but have done soooo many polish and jeweling that it becomes second nature.it's like your coils man..do enough,ya don't think twice,well maybe on the kimber.lol.just in awe ray........I'll never make it to your pay grade..lol
Just takes time, wire and effort and you'll get there...I couldnt pull off some of these builds and would look in envy at other's builds and one dya I would try it and get atleast one coil worth of something decent and I would try again and get better results...you have to try and do things that you may not think you can pull off and build you confidence...high self confidence is one of the biggest contributing factors in pulling stuff like these builds off...and maybe a good eye helps!
 
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Well...I cant wait for a Goon the size of my Mason Ive never seen anyone do more then 6 Cores (Maybe it was 8)...So I wanted to push the limit to 9. Ive been blown away before looking over Twisted Messes and M.Terks 6 Core Staggereds for the longest time wishing I could pull one off and since Ive been making 3 core and then a 4 Core yesterday I wanted to see how far I could go with it....Im sure I could have done a 12 Core but the 9 Core already doesnt fit anything but the Mason 40mm....Maybe Ill make another and Dual it!

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Well...I cant wait for a Goon the size of my Mason Ive never seen anyone do more then 6 Cores (Maybe it was 8)...So I wanted to push the limit to 9. Ive been blown away before looking over Twisted Messes and M.Terks 6 Core Staggereds for the longest time wishing I could pull one off and since Ive been making 3 core and then a 4 Core yesterday I wanted to see how far I could go with it....Im sure I could have done a 12 Core but the 9 Core already doesnt fit anything but the Mason 40mm....Maybe Ill make another and Dual it!

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You're gonna have to take out a wrap and have the fattest 2 wrap coils of life hahaha

This is the most cores I've ever seen, although they are smaller gauges than yours

10 Cores, 3 Wraps, in a Phenotype-L
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Ive also polished some of my parts...Im hesitant to tear down my Kimber TLE Pro II and polish the safeties/GS/SL and more but I may someday. Ive polished my Ruger Mark II and my SR9 Barrels though...Im sure it could be better though :D

I hope they inspire something out of everyone, thats the whole reason I started the thread, so others would try something they saw and possibly have a variation or new coil concept from being inspired by them. Hope to see something from you on the "Post You Builds" Thread soon!
Take the plunge. The worst that will happen is you might have to buy a part. I've polished all my triggers. It's easy. Usually many good videos out to follow on everything. I'm no gunsmith. I don't try to remove material or repro file anything. Plus, on a lot of stuff you don't want to go through surface hardening. But just to clean up, smooth, and polish.... It's a big improvement. First thing I do to every new one.

So let me ask.... What is the story with exotic coil builds? I mean more coil is more coil. And the coil holding more juice like a wick I get. Is it simply a matter of more is better, or do complex builds do more than just heat and vaporize? Is there a type of build that does certain things better than others. Been curious. I might have to give some a try.
 

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Take the plunge. The worst that will happen is you might have to buy a part. I've polished all my triggers. It's easy. Usually many good videos out to follow on everything. I'm no gunsmith. I don't try to remove material or repro file anything. Plus, on a lot of stuff you don't want to go through surface hardening. But just to clean up, smooth, and polish.... It's a big improvement. First thing I do to every new one.

So let me ask.... What is the story with exotic coil builds? I mean more coil is more coil. And the coil holding more juice like a wick I get. Is it simply a matter of more is better, or do complex builds do more than just heat and vaporize? Is there a type of build that does certain things better than others. Been curious. I might have to give some a try.

Im looking to take the finish off the frame and the frames aluminum, the durability and corrosion afterwards is my main concern on the one Kimber, the rest have already been polished in the feed ramp/barrel and other places where it should be done but I really like the 2 tone 1911's...

I do it for fun, I like the looks of them and others seem to get a kick out of them...some have performance reasons like Tsuka, Aliens, Framed Staples, Alien Framed Staples (Best vape there is) but some are purely cosmetic.
 

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Hi, I'm planning to buy Tsunami RDA for the flavor and Fused Claptons to go with my Noisy Cricket mod. Any suggestions with the build?
 

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Hi, I'm planning to buy Tsunami RDA for the flavor and Fused Claptons to go with my Noisy Cricket mod. Any suggestions with the build?
Its a Series Build you need so DO NOT go below .35 Ohms...it becomes dangerous and too hot anyways....my favorite vapes for series are 2 x 28KA1/38N80 (8 Wraps/3mm ID), Ive done it with Spaced Fused Claptons, Claptons and Dual Core Aliens....Its wonderful

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Its a Series Build you need so DO NOT go below .35 Ohms...it becomes dangerous and too hot anyways....my favorite vapes for series are 2 x 28KA1/38N80 (8 Wraps/3mm ID), Ive done it with Spaced Fused Claptons, Claptons and Dual Core Aliens....Its wonderful

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Those are lovely builds. I'll try them out later when I get my Tsunami RDA. Thank you!

How's the battery life with this build? I currently have two LGHG2.

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Those are lovely builds. I'll try them out later when I get my Tsunami RDA. Thank you!
No problem! A tip for the Tsunami, do not use much wick in the well, only let the tips touch the deck as the well is pretty tiny and you will need to drip often if you fill it with more cotton
 

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Oh, got it. Nice. Ya, the aluminum would be troublesome. (To take the plunge) But hey, why not?

Cool. Fun is as good of reason as any. Im all good with more, or different. Just curious if there was something else specifically. As in all the different types like you mentioned. I'll have to try some. Right now I get all I want from the Boreas. More flavor on top of that would be worth it.
 

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No problem! A tip for the Tsunami, do not use much wick in the well, only let the tips touch the deck as the well is pretty tiny and you will need to drip often if you fill it with more cotton

I got the Tsunami RDA but the Fused Clapton I got are 24/36. What would you suggest for it?
 

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I got the Tsunami RDA but the Fused Clapton I got are 24/36. What would you suggest for it?
If your using it a Noisy Cricket then what I mentioned already is what I would use, on a Parallel box or Regulated I would suggest trying some Framed Staples, Aliens/Alien Framed Staples
 

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If your using it a Noisy Cricket then what I mentioned already is what I would use, on a Parallel box or Regulated I would suggest trying some Framed Staples, Aliens/Alien Framed Staples

I did 8 loops, 3mm guide with the Fused Clapton wire and the resistance I got is 0.11, my 6 loops Clapton had a higher resistance of 0.18. What do you think is the problem?
 

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I did 8 loops, 3mm guide with the Fused Clapton wire and the resistance I got is 0.11, my 6 loops Clapton had a higher resistance of 0.18. What do you think is the problem?
You must be using some low gauge wire....I gave specs for 2 x 28KA1 Cores, if you use anything lower then that then it will register alot lower...I suggest getting a Rafale X if you want to use low gauge wires on a Series Box....I just got one today and Im using a .14 Ohm build on the Noisy cricket, on the RDA the coils are wired in series so the RDA makes it a .38 Ohm Build and is safe on the Cricket. You need to use 28g or 30g making those fused claptons...
 

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I'm not entirely sure what kind of wire this Fused Clapton is. It only says 24/36 at the bottom.
 

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You must be using some low gauge wire....I gave specs for 2 x 28KA1 Cores, if you use anything lower then that then it will register alot lower...I suggest getting a Rafale X if you want to use low gauge wires on a Series Box....I just got one today and Im using a .14 Ohm build on the Noisy cricket, on the RDA the coils are wired in series so the RDA makes it a .38 Ohm Build and is safe on the Cricket. You need to use 28g or 30g making those fused claptons...

I removed the other Fused Clapton wire and it read 0.24. I'm going to vape this temporarily until I get home. Still in the office at the moment so no choice but to wait. I'll try using kanthal, I got 24g one and I'll probably buy another set tomorrow (28 and 38) just in case I get the time to build my Fused Claptons.
 

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I removed the other Fused Clapton wire and it read 0.24. I'm going to vape this temporarily until I get home. Still in the office at the moment so no choice but to wait. I'll try using kanthal, I got 24g one and I'll probably buy another set tomorrow (28 and 38) just in case I get the time to build my Fused Claptons.
Yes you need to use Kanthal as its much higher in resistance then N80, 28g N80 is similar to 26g in Kanthal so that would be the reason your coils measure so low...


I tried making some larger Alien Fraples this morning when my Ribbon wire came in..I accidetnally wrapped the clapton the way I dont like for Alien wrap so I was working against myself when wrapping the Alien wrap...I think it still came out okay but if it was wrapped the right way it would have looked a ton better. This time I spaced the Alien wrap more so the Ribbon is more Visable...

11 x .6R/2 x 24KA1/36N80 Alien Framed Staples (5 Wraps/3mm ID)

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5 x .6R/26KA1/36N80 (5 Wrap and 6 Wrap/2.5mm ID) Alien Framed Staples

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Raymo, received my second order from ya, the Claptons look really NICE...will post some pictures when I recoil an atty this weekend....!

Thanks again......!
 

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Yes you need to use Kanthal as its much higher in resistance then N80, 28g N80 is similar to 26g in Kanthal so that would be the reason your coils measure so low...

I'm running it now on 10 loops of Kanthal 24g dual coil, 3mm guide and I got 0.4 resistance, I'll try to make my own Fused Claptons probably by the weekend since I need to buy N80 wire.
 

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@BrattVapes Showed me a pic on instagram about a build to see if I could do it...I was going to put it off until tomorrow but I had some free time and tried it....had this pumped out in less then 20 minutes start to finish!

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Made these a minute ago...some Staggered Framed Staples, they turned out amazing!
Pics are before they were even washed...I was in a rush making a video at the same time so they are even shinier then this now...\
Specs: 12 x .6R/26KA1/34N80/40N80 (5 Wraps/3mm ID)

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