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Man, I could fill pages and pages of threads on my misadventures in wicking.

I probably wouldn't have bothered building the Boreas at all in the first place if it wasn't for the fact it was supposed to be pretty easy to wick.
Why not make your own thread about wicking?

With all the helpful folks here I'd bet you'll have it down-pat in no-time, especially when folks post good videos.
 

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Dam, I'm going to have to make my first ever 0 nic juice so I can get some rest.

I keep vaping the Boreas just because it tastes good and even at 3 mg I'm getting hopped up

Hahaha, I'm having the exact same issue. Still want a bit of nic, so I'm likely going to have to make some 1.5mg/ml batches of juice! I have 250ml of 3mg/ml to go through still ... I have no doubt the Boreas will help me use that up though! ;)
 

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I fill through these slots until it's just a little over the slot.
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Not the feed holes in the deck, the slots on the side of the tank that feeds the juice to the deck.

taking the deck out is not the greatest idea unless you want to check on the coil or wicking.
then have some paper towel ready its a little wet when you take it out.
just open the juice flow you will see it when you take the bottom off ,two elongated slots.
they got to be open when filling! when full srew the bottom back on and close the air ,juice control to where you normaly vape ..that's all .
Got it. Works well. Thank you for the help.

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Yihi chips shouldn't temp control kanthal. Only thing I can think of is the temp was low enough to not throw it into temp protection. If you didn't lock resistance, that's another thing that should have been done for TC wire but maybe not doing it allowed you to trick the chip?

Hit the fire button 5 times and that will get you to the menu. Click fire till you see power or joules selection and change to power with the up or down button. Now you're out of temp control.

I enjoy TC, if you want to try it grab some SS or Ti wire and give it a go. Propper TC wire will vape much better than kanthal that happens to get by with very off temp settings.

Difference in resistance... well, one of the two is right, the other is wrong lol. Seriously though, maybe a wire loosened somewhere between the meter and the mod? Or one of the two really is that far off... I would trust the yihi.
thanks fq .
the resistance of the coil mesures 1 ohm on another device and 1.1 ohm on the stand alone ohm meter .
did not know the chip is a yihi have an yihi sx350 in one of my home brew mods and its been very reliable.
so the ohms reading in the temp setting is wrong . must have set it or lock it some how .
with tc for now to many things to wrap my pee brains around and takes me out of my ohms law comfort zone .lol
will have toget some ss wire maybe 316 and do it it right way. thanks for the tips .
 

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Yeah, SS is my preference and you can run it in power mode if you don't like TC.

You do have to lock the resistance by pressing up and down at the same time with a room temperature attomizer on top... but not with kanthal :) Also most mods won't TC with a resistance as high as 1 ohm. Build to ~0.3 (26g SS) and you are well within the safety range with good batteries. Yihi will safely fire down to 0.05 ohms.
 
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Yeah, SS is my preference and you can run it in power mode if you don't like TC.

You do have to lock the resistance by pressing up and down at the same time with a room temperature attomizer on top... but not with kanthal :) Also most mods won't TC with a resistance as high as 1 ohm. Build to ~0.3 (26g SS) and you are well within the safety range with good batteries. Yihi will safely fire down to 0.05 ohms.
well I know its in my head anything that low scares me .but to many peps doing it safely .
been around ohms law a long time with ham radio recievers transmitters and amplifiers . a lot of vacuum tube stuff to.
so looking at that small battery at 4 or so volts ...and a coil at .05 or even .5 looks more like a dead short to me lol
must learn to trust the chips doing their job . have to study how it controls temp to be more comfortable with it.
modern electronics are sure marvels .
 

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well I know its in my head anything that low scares me .but to many peps doing it safely .
been around ohms law a long time with ham radio recievers transmitters and amplifiers . a lot of vacuum tube stuff to.
so looking at that small battery at 4 or so volts ...and a coil at .05 or even .5 looks more like a dead short to me lol
must learn to trust the chips doing their job . have to study how it controls temp to be more comfortable with it.
modern electronics are sure marvels .

I had to get over it, too. I still have some "mech mentality" :) But, this isn't a single battery tube mech. I'm using dual and tri battery regulated mods now. I'm well within safety limits with the attys I'm running.
 

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well I know its in my head anything that low scares me .but to many peps doing it safely .
been around ohms law a long time with ham radio recievers transmitters and amplifiers . a lot of vacuum tube stuff to.
so looking at that small battery at 4 or so volts ...and a coil at .05 or even .5 looks more like a dead short to me lol
must learn to trust the chips doing their job . have to study how it controls temp to be more comfortable with it.
modern electronics are sure marvels .

Yep, a controlled dead short is just about what it is.
If you built ham radios you know your shit and should be safer than most people that are building coils.
Today's lithium cells are not yesterday's nicd's, they can put out an amazing flow of power and not break a sweat.


...you can do it :bingo:
 

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I wouldnt say dead short...well that depends on how many batteries your running and what type of batteries...

I wanted a lipo box for a awhile now as you can use a pot and can drop a 14.8V lipo in and have a amp headway of over 400a CD (depending on lipo used)...
 

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I had to get over it, too. I still have some "mech mentality" :) But, this isn't a single battery tube mech. I'm using dual and tri battery regulated mods now. I'm well within safety limits with the attys I'm running.
sure believe you guys . all my home build mods are dual 18650 mostly parallel with different regulators like dna 20 and 30 and my favored is with a sx350 so no temp control . another which works well is in series with a buck convertor and has on flaw tho...it draws some small current so I have to incorporate a switch in it . ever so slowly drains the batteries to below safe !
lately I fell in love with the vtc miny and vaping at 14 watts its perfect ..nice and small and it will do tc .
the 3 battery version in series model 200 scares me to so I traded it for another vtc mini .
which I got originaly for the chip . the hole mod costs is halv what a decent chip is . now I don't have the desire to butcher one up.
so my go to rite now vtc minie boreas with silicone insert kanthal a1 coil 2.5 mm at around 1.2 to 1.4 ohms .14 watts
will the merlin change that ? we will see .
 

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sure believe you guys . all my home build mods are dual 18650 mostly parallel with different regulators like dna 20 and 30 and my favored is with a sx350 so no temp control . another which works well is in series with a buck convertor and has on flaw tho...it draws some small current so I have to incorporate a switch in it . ever so slowly drains the batteries to below safe !
lately I fell in love with the vtc miny and vaping at 14 watts its perfect ..nice and small and it will do tc .
the 3 battery version in series model 200 scares me to so I traded it for another vtc mini .
which I got originaly for the chip . the hole mod costs is halv what a decent chip is . now I don't have the desire to butcher one up.
so my go to rite now vtc minie boreas with silicone insert kanthal a1 coil 2.5 mm at around 1.2 to 1.4 ohms .14 watts
will the merlin change that ? we will see .
So the BOREAS IS SITTING ON THE VTC?
Ewwww
 

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Yep, a controlled dead short is just about what it is.
If you built ham radios you know your shit and should be safer than most people that are building coils.
Today's lithium cells are not yesterday's nicd's, they can put out an amazing flow of power and not break a sweat.


...you can do it :bingo:
talking about nicads had one I used for an aircraft radio in my sailplane it was a wet cell NiCad .
and then lipos whow ! they can sure draw some amps have them in 2 mods ..just to large for my taste .
mike petro called it his weekender (on an other channel )it lasts me all week lol.
 

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I wouldnt say dead short...well that depends on how many batteries your running and what type of batteries...

I wanted a lipo box for a awhile now as you can use a pot and can drop a 14.8V lipo in and have a amp headway of over 400a CD (depending on lipo used)...
raymo
not clear what you are saying ..you want to use a pot ..rheostat as a voltage dropping device ?
 

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not clear what you are saying ..you want to use a pot ..rheostat as a voltage dropping device ?
Well no, use it to gauge the amount of heat I like from my build....It is a voltage splitter but it wouldnt be used as a "voltage cut" or to reduce to a normal 4.2V, Im sorry I wasnt clear on that....
 

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Well no, use it to gauge the amount of heat I like from my build....It is a voltage splitter but it wouldnt be used as a "voltage cut" or to reduce to a normal 4.2V, Im sorry I wasnt clear on that....
I thought you going to take the series batteries at 14 or so volts and put a variable resistor in series to drop the voltage to the coil .
that would sure take a hefty wire wound pot to drop all that power and waste it .
 

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I thought you going to take the series batteries at 14 or so volts and put a variable resistor in series to drop the voltage to the coil .
that would sure take a hefty wire wound pot to drop all that power and waste it .
till havent made my mind up as to what I want to do...since the HOG died I now need to make a box to take up that role also...I may end up making 2 different boxes as it would be safer then something that can switch it up, some of these builds Im afraid of getting welded connections..
 

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Need to get home and make a clapton... the same build that works well in flavor chaser drippers and my clt cloud chucker alike is anemic in the boreas.
It still produces great vape and flavor but you can tell that this needs a much more substantial coil in there to get it running at peak performance.

Watching the clock... is it 1:00 yet?
 

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Can or can't TC SS claptons?
Can but not well? Or can't at all?

Just going to use kanthal today since I have just about every gauge but curious about SS claptons.

You mentioned in the coilart thread that SS claptons don't TC. I am running their SS clapton coil and it won't even register on a yihi chip and runs inconsistent on the rx200... but at least runs in TC mode. Best in power mode though.

Curious to see if I can wrap a SS on SS clapton and have it TC in the boreas. Whatever, if it doesn't, I'll run it in power mode.
 

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Can or can't TC SS claptons?
Can but not well? Or can't at all?

Just going to use kanthal today since I have just about every gauge but curious about SS claptons.
I was able to run Fused Clapton SS coils just fine. Now, how accurate it was, well I don't know, but they ran and did cut off (took a long 200w/540F pull and it was bouncing on and off at the end).
 

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Okay so, I got my black, notched Boreas. I dig it, but the notches are in two sets of three. The notches don't wrap around the entire top cap, there's three on each side and then a blank area where it looks like the old one. I'm a bit confused why they did this, but I still like it, makes the top cap easier to remove. I wish they added them to the bottom cap as well.
 

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I did 26g 316SS fused with KanthalD 40g.
 

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Okay so, I got my black, notched Boreas. I dig it, but the notches are in two sets of three. The notches don't wrap around the entire top cap, there's three on each side and then a blank area where it looks like the old one. I'm a bit confused why they did this, but I still like it, makes the top cap easier to remove. I wish they added them to the bottom cap as well.

I was surprised to see it not uniform around the entire cap, would have preferred it all the way around but whatever.

I'm not sure they are really needed at least with the black coating, I have no issue disassembling top (holding the smooth part) or bottom and I think the OG smooth cap would look better... but again... whatever. It's a great tank.

I also have vice grip fingers from working on cars and bikes since I was a youngster so maybe the notches are useful to the majority.
 

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Well I haven't tried stripping off the outer wrap and doing comparisons and all that jazz. So again I haven't looked into the accuracy of it or any of the sciency stuff, just the fact that it does work. It makes sense why it'd work though considering the core wires determine the resistance almost exclusively (the difference isn't something our mods are going to be able to distinguish, parallel coils or fused clapton the mod doesn't know the difference).
 

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Makes sense... 26g SS and thinnest kanthal I can find in the kanthal spool graveyard it is :)
 

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Makes sense... 26g SS and thinnest kanthal I can find in the kanthal spool graveyard it is :)
Be warned, they'll come out quite low resistance, mine ended up at .08Ω as dual coils. Wish I had some 28g SS but that'll wait till I'm ready to do the run through and redo coils for my mods.
 

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I made some SS316L fused claptons about a week ago. Two pieces of 24ga 316L with 32ga 316L. SS Claptons are my favorite, because you get a full clapton experience without the ramp up time.
 

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It fires down to 0.05 in TC I believe. It may be lower, but I know it fires under .1 in TC.
 

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Are they clones out, I bought one off ebay for 38 dollars, registered the code on the site and it said it had been checked one time before. When I take the drip tip off, the metal part that is screws in is stuck on the top of the tank only the plastic delrin came out, is this normal?
 

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Are they clones out, I bought one off ebay for 38 dollars, registered the code on the site and it said it had been checked one time before. When I take the drip tip off, the metal part that is screws in is stuck on the top of the tank only the plastic delrin came out, is this normal?

Only $39.99 at SubTank Supply and you would have gotten Brand New Original BOREAS!
 
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Are they clones out, I bought one off ebay for 38 dollars, registered the code on the site and it said it had been checked one time before. When I take the drip tip off, the metal part that is screws in is stuck on the top of the tank only the plastic delrin came out, is this normal?
Yup, there is a clone, what is it called, oh yes, it's the Aromamizer Supreme ; )
 

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Please don't go there, just, don't. Enough drama has happened already over this topic. The Aromamizer V1 and its RDTA design predates the Boreas by months, and the Supreme and Boreas are two entirely different tanks. They have nothing to do with eachother. Neither are clones, but you have to give props to Steamcrave because the original RDTA style design both use was their idea.

I know there's a clone of the Supreme being sold for like $20, but I highly doubt the Boreas has been cloned. Somebody probably just already used the code, it's worth something it said it had ALREADY been entered instead of it doesn't exist.

The clone industry is dying because manufacturers learned that as long as they were releasing products that were $65+, it would get cloned and be sold for $15. Now 90% of Authentics are under $40. In a year I don't think you'll even see clones anymore. There's no reason paying $5 less for something of lower quality when the authentic, better made product is $5 more.
 

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