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Tpat591

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No it started by a football player protesting the flag and country in protest against police brutality. .. per CK's own original statement....

Protesting against brutality is a good thing. Protesting the flag and country in support is not.

Facts is fact... in this case facts is in support of The Donald.

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I disagree. Colin took his inspiration from the manipulations and promotion of racial division that came right from the Democratic Party's playbook of manipulating morons into the joys of victimhood to play on their ingrained racism to achieve a desired result of preserving a pissed off populace base who would vote for them to provide more financial aid. You give Colin way to much credit for original thinking. He isn't a leader. He is not uniting. He is promoting racial division and hatred of his race toward authority that will be used by the Democrats to turn out the vote.

If he was a true activist he would be using his fame and wealth to further efforts to rebuild poorer inner city areas and provide for social programs that would discourage drug use and gang participation and provide a path to education and employment opportunities so people can overcome unfortunate circumstances. His taking a knee did nothing productive toward these ends. If he truly wanted to make a difference, he would use his privileged position in the NFL to be a role model in contributing to help those less fortunate to raise the community itself in cooperation with Police. To promote a positive relationship in the community that would clean up the inner city streets so employment opportunities can return to those communities.
 
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I disagree. Colin took his inspiration from the manipulations and promotion of racial division that came right from the Democratic Party's playbook of manipulating morons into the joys of victimhood to play on their ingrained racism to achieve a desired result of preserving a pissed off populace base who would vote for them to provide more financial aid. You give Colin way to much credit for original thinking. He isn't a leader. He is not uniting. He is promoting racial division and hatred of his race toward authority that will be used by the Democrats to turn out the vote.

If he was a true activist he would be using his fame and wealth to further efforts to rebuild poorer inner city areas and provide for social programs that would discourage drug use and gang participation and provide a path to education and employment opportunities so people can overcome unfortunate circumstances. His taking a knee did nothing productive toward these ends.
the little rat bastard enjoyed more white privledge in America than 85% of whites in America.
 

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just because you cry wolf doesn't make the wolf real.....your self serving delusions are just that yours,you do not have the right to force people to take them seriouslly..or else the Westburo Baptist Church would get to give the NFL half time show....and I have no idea what being a veteran has to do with it.
What? LMAO! Being a veteran has everything to do with it. We are the ones that fought for the freedoms of this country. WE are the ones that trump claims are being offended and disrespected by these peaceful protesters. We are the ones that know the price of the freedom that everyone in this country enjoys so much. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, I simply spoke my piece. Take them seriously or don't. Whatever. I just am not going to stay quiet while people, including trump, piss on everything that flag stands for that they claim to have so much respect for.
 

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Actually, it is exactly how to effectively protest. It works the same as a modest proposal. In order to actually get people's attention, you have to do something outlandish otherwise no one actually takes the time to look up from their phones to see what is actually happening right in front of them. As a veteran, I understand that it is not what we want to see as a nation, but that is the point - show the world something they don't want to see so that they can see what it is that you don't want to see. I have to say, this is a much better way to protest than to walk through the streets screaming inflammatory remarks that spark riots. If someone wants to protest in a way that doesn't cause blood to be spilled, I am all for it.
What i don't get.... is if we all want to have unity.... and unify to solve these social issues..... what protest the vary symbols of Unity.....

Why protest offense? While being offensive.

I do a political protest at my place of employment.... I get fired....



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I disagree. Colin took his inspiration from the manipulations and promotion of racial division that came right from the Democratic Party's playbook of manipulating morons into the joys of victimhood to play on their ingrained racism to achieve a desired result of preserving a pissed off populace base who would vote for them to provide more financial aid. You give Colin way to much credit for original thinking. He isn't a leader. He is not uniting. He is promoting racial division and hatred of his race toward authority that will be used by the Democrats to turn out the vote.

If he was a true activist he would be using his fame and wealth to further efforts to rebuild poorer inner city areas and provide for social programs that would discourage drug use and gang participation and provide a path to education and employment opportunities so people can overcome unfortunate circumstances. His taking a knee did nothing productive toward these ends.
Fwiw... this is not disagreement...... it's justification........

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yeah I would call it a war.... Wounded knee was in reaction to the battle of little big horn...I don't think the 7th Calvary and Custer were poilicemen..the US goverment had declared a de facto War on the Souix...or are you buying the goverment line that Vietnam wasn't a War..it was a police action....the Civil War was mass murder for land..so was WWI and WWII and name your war...the people don't go to war ..wars are organized theft by the elite.
There was gold in them Black Hills.
Here's a good explanation of how Custer fucked up and why Grant went to war illegally with the Lakotas:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ulysses-grant-launched-illegal-war-plains-indians-180960787/

Note the Black Hills War began in 1876. Custer was offed in June, 1876.

Wounded Knee was actually a police action taken in 1890 to disarm the Lakotas
(to keep another Black Hill uprising from happening 'cause the white folks really wanted the lumber and gold w/o having to deal with
redmen plinking at them) but as fate would have it
(see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre)
during the process of disarming the Lakota, a deaf tribesman named Black Coyote was reluctant to give up his rifle, claiming he had paid a lot for it.[7] Simultaneously, an old man was performing a ritual called the Ghost Dance. Black Coyote's rifle went off at that point, and the U.S. army began shooting at the Native Americans. The disarmed Lakota warriors did their best to fight back. [8]

By the time the battle was over, more than 150 men, women, and children of the Lakota had been killed and 51 were wounded (4 men and 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300.
 

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What? LMAO! Being a veteran has everything to do with it. We are the ones that fought for the freedoms of this country. WE are the ones that trump claims are being offended and disrespected by these peaceful protesters. We are the ones that know the price of the freedom that everyone in this country enjoys so much. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, I simply spoke my piece. Take them seriously or don't. Whatever. I just am not going to stay quiet while people, including trump, piss on everything that flag stands for that they claim to have so much respect for.
Go..Fuck yourself ..I have alot of veterans in my family..I have an Uncle who retired a lutentant colenel in the Airforce who fought in Korea and Vietnam...and not once never for a milisecond did they ever think that being a veteran gave them anymore of a right or insight into the duties of a citizen than any other citizen...you have no idea what the fuck the word "service" means...
Each citizens has the right to voice their thoughts on waht the NFL does the flag belongs to all of us not just the NFL and the military.
 

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What i don't get.... is if we all want to have unity.... and unify to solve these social issues..... what protest the vary symbols of Unity.....

Why protest offense? While being offensive.

I do a political protest at my place of employment.... I get fired....



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Unity as in whose definition of what form unity takes?
The right to NOT conform to the cookie cutter mold is an American thing.
 

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Go..Fuck yourself ..I have alot of veterans in my family..I have an Uncle who retired a lutentant colenel in the Airforce who fought in Korea and Vietnam...and not once never for a milisecond did they ever think that being a veteran gave them anymore of a right or insight into the duties of a citizen than any other citizen...you have no idea what the fuck the word "service" means...

Said like someone who has never served. You seem to be upset. Sorry, you feel that way.

Each citizens has the right to voice their thoughts on waht the NFL does the flag belongs to all of us not just the NFL and the military.

This is true, and no one here has told you not to voice your thoughts. You, on the other hand, seem to be telling me not to. But that's ok. Say what you need to say, I will say what I need to say. Cheers!
 

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Said like someone who has never served. You seem to be upset. Sorry, you feel that way.



This is true, and no one here has told you not to voice your thoughts. You, on the other hand, seem to be telling me not to. But that's ok. Say what you need to say, I will say what I need to say. Cheers!
please show me the quote were I told you not to spew whatever drivel you call thoughts...
 

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What? LMAO! Being a veteran has everything to do with it. We are the ones that fought for the freedoms of this country. WE are the ones that trump claims are being offended and disrespected by these peaceful protesters. We are the ones that know the price of the freedom that everyone in this country enjoys so much. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, I simply spoke my piece. Take them seriously or don't. Whatever. I just am not going to stay quiet while people, including trump, piss on everything that flag stands for that they claim to have so much respect for.

Man, I've been trying to stay out of this melee but your veteran BS just got to me.
With all due respect to any vets in the peanut gallery...your statement,"We are the ones that know the price of the freedom" is total bullshit.
By that logic then you're also the one who broke the treaty which caused the Black Hills War
and the killing of innocent native American Indians at Wounded Knee.
YOU are responsible for causing the needless deaths of as many as 2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. You caused the death of between 200,000 and 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers...all in an undeclared war, a police action.
A POLICE ACTION in a sovereign country...for what? xxxxx?

I'm not going to list all of the bullshit police actions and military engagements YOU and the rest of US Vets have been
the witless victims of, but if you haven't realized by now that you were duped into sacrificing your time, blood, sweat and tears
only to make some pasty white elitist sons of bitches who bought deferments for their own sons while they drafted or sweet talked
sheep into volunteering by using the bullshit excuse that they were defending freedom then you must be on some strong meds because you were.

Moreover, if you have nothing to say other than emotional bullshit that you keep repeating to yourself
so that you don't realize you were taken by the man then go in your closet and talk to yourself but
"Derp" just doesn't cut it.

AND BEFORE YOU SPEW MORE CRAP ABOUT "You haven't served..blah, blah"
Note I said "US Vets"...

Stay deluded if it helps but don't try to push your dirty green socks over anybody else's eyes.
 
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What? LMAO! Being a veteran has everything to do with it. We are the ones that fought for the freedoms of this country. WE are the ones that trump claims are being offended and disrespected by these peaceful protesters. We are the ones that know the price of the freedom that everyone in this country enjoys so much. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, I simply spoke my piece. Take them seriously or don't. Whatever. I just am not going to stay quiet while people, including trump, piss on everything that flag stands for that they claim to have so much respect for.

Oh, shut the fuck up with your "veteran" bullshit. I'm a veteran, so what?

Fuck the NFL. Nobody is making laws that they can't protest. We are making it socially unexceptable. If they want to protest that way, being disrespectful, then we'll tell 'em what we think about it and not watch. Fuck them and fuck you if you don't like it.
 

Tpat591

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Fwiw... this is not disagreement...... it's justification........

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What kind of response is that? You disagree?

Trump is right when he says we all bleed Red. The time has come to stop dividing the nation and to come together and rebuild these neighborhoods. If the NFL Players gave a rats ass about Black Lives they would not be taking a knee to protest Police Brutality they would be standing up and asking a nation to come together to drive these gangs out of the inner city neighborhoods they deal drugs in so the children could walk the streets safely and have a path to find opportunities for financial success and a future.
 

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The US hasn't been involved in a war that actually defended US freedom since the War of 1812.
We've defended US interests and perhaps the commodities which enable our way of life
but freedom is another word.
Perhaps you could say that WWII was worthwhile but we only got involved AFTER the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor
and as a nation we kind of sympathized with Hitler and the Nazis, to the point that many American industrialists contributed much money
to Hitler's war machinery until then.
 

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The US hasn't been involved in a war that actually defended US freedom since the War of 1812.
We've defended US interests and perhaps the commodities which enable our way of life
but freedom is another word.
Perhaps you could say that WWII was worthwhile but we only got involved AFTER the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor
and as a nation we kind of sympathized with Hitler and the Nazis, to the point that many American industrialists contributed much money
to Hitler's war machinery until then.

Correct. I fought for Kuwait's fucking non-freedom. And I'm not all that happy about it. I was too young and dumb to refuse. :sad:
 

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What kind of response is that? You disagree?

Trump is right when he says we all bleed Red. The time has come to stop dividing the nation and to come together and rebuild these neighborhoods. If the NFL Players gave a rats ass about Black Lives they would not be taking a knee to protest Police Brutality they would be standing up and asking a nation to come together to drive these gangs out of the inner city neighborhoods they deal drugs in so the children could walk the streets safely and have a path to find opportunities for financial success and a future.
I disagreed that your rant was in disagreement with the comment you quoted.......

You statement was justification for your opinion and against what you ASSUMED was an opinion by me... Fact Is I never stated an opinion.. and except for a couple detail s agree with both or your rants in response.....


One has to listen to hear.....

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The only reason I brought the veteran thing into it is because trump played that card. I'm not emotional. I'm not the one telling anyone to go fuck themselves, fuck off, or shut the fuck up. I really thought we could have a friendly conversation with differing opinions. But no worries, I thought this was a friendlier place than it apparently is. Oh well.

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The only reason I brought the veteran thing into it is because trump played that card. I'm not emotional. I'm not the one telling anyone to go fuck themselves, fuck off, or shut the fuck up. I really thought we could have a friendly conversation with differing opinions. But no worries, I thought this was a friendlier place than it apparently is. Oh well.

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Nobody friendly here except EJ.
If you don't know pulsevape is a pissed off old grouch then..."Derp"

PS. I think by now we all know Trump is full of shit also.
The argument is whether you want good shit or expressway xxxx
 

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I disagreed that your rant was in disagreement with the comment you quoted.......

You statement was justification for your opinion and against what you ASSUMED was an opinion by me... Fact Is I never stated an opinion.. and except for a couple detail s agree with both or your rants in response.....


One has to listen to hear.....

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I see you're having one of those brilliant mornings.
It's 1PM here in da Magic Silly. Go ahead, disagree and see if I care. Only EJ gives a damn and he falls right over
 

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The only reason I brought the veteran thing into it is because trump played that card. I'm not emotional. I'm not the one telling anyone to go fuck themselves, fuck off, or shut the fuck up. I really thought we could have a friendly conversation with differing opinions. But no worries, I thought this was a friendlier place than it apparently is. Oh well.

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Nobody has threatened US citizen freedoms other than other US citizens, in many many years(gun control, ANTIFA, Drug laws, nanny state regulations, TAXES). With exception to the UN. The UN is definately a threat to US freedom.

Trump has not proposed any laws to prevent players from protesting. He simply suggested that the NFL change their rules. Many people agree that the NFL should not be seen as disrespecting the country. The NFL has the right to make rules that protect their image.

It's fine to have an opinion. It's not fine to say that others should not have an opinion, including Trump. If the President thinks the players should stand, he has a right to say so. If the President thinks the NFL should change their rules, he has a right to say so.

Now, if Trump had suggested or proposed a US law, I'd agree with you. But, he did not. So, why can you or I have an opinion, but Trump cannot?

Hitlery threatened US freedoms with proposed "gun control" LAWS. Trump is a ray of sunshine compared to Hitlery if you want to talk about threats to US freedoms. Hell, Obama even took our "freedom" to decide if we want to buy health insurance or not. So, we can talk about freedoms if you want. The freedom to keep ones own money(property) is a great place to start.
 
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I disagreed that your rant was in disagreement with the comment you quoted.......

You statement was justification for your opinion and against what you ASSUMED was an opinion by me... Fact Is I never stated an opinion.. and except for a couple detail s agree with both or your rants in response.....


One has to listen to hear.....

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I don't consider my opinions rants and I will thank you not to refer to them as such. I also do not post on behalf of the Donald. I do have a username there (that I don't use) but I do go there to find items I think others might like to talk about or simply chuckle at over here. While I agree with many things on The Donald, they are too far over the top blind cheerleaders IMHO. Obama fostered an environment of Anti-American Sentiment, sabotaged this country, fostered racial division and unrest and I believe he was responsible to great degree in the rise of the BLM movement, disrespect for Police, and the NFL protests.

The only reason I brought the veteran thing into it is because trump played that card. I'm not emotional. I'm not the one telling anyone to go fuck themselves, fuck off, or shut the fuck up. I really thought we could have a friendly conversation with differing opinions. But no worries, I thought this was a friendlier place than it apparently is. Oh well.

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Funny, seems to me you told me that my post told you all you needed to know about me and you said "I can't waste my time talking to someone at your level." You didn't come here to have a discussion and examine both sides of an issue. You came to virtue signal, insult, and act superior.

I will thank you for your service to this country, but I honestly believe that your country owed it to you to be honest with you as to what you were really fighting for. I think all the wasted money, lives and resources could be much better used to raise the standard of living for Americans here at home than simply killing people in other countries to make the rich richer. I have always believed the United States had a responsibility to help unite the world, but I never believed we should tear our own country down to do it and those forces that would do so need to be opposed vehemently. I further do not believe Israel should be making our foreign policy and they should fight their own damn wars & leave us out of it.

You are entitled to a differing opinion, but it would be much more constructive to point out just what Trump has done that is so bad. Frankly I think he is doing exactly what we hired him to do. I can only imagine what he could accomplish if the left would give him a chance - He is basically more of a Democrat anyway. He was a Democrat most of his life. Why is his common sense policy so vehemently opposed - because he is single-handedly exposing how corrupt our government actually is and they are scared shitless.
 
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This guy is annoying but he has been on top of Vegas, speaking fact supported truth since the beginning. He is doing what the MSMs should be doing & not even Alex Jones is willing to cover this stuff like this guy. Worth watching.


He is also right about Trump, Saudi, & Israel. Not so sure about NK.
 
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Doesn't the word "National" in NFL mean anything?
Speaking of Obama Care (which somebody must have mentioned..)
My insurance/HMO deal is going up 1300% and I got their notice BEFORE Trump signed his woosy
Executive Order that won't take effect until 2019..
 

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Doesn't the word "National" in NFL mean anything?
No more than in National Car Rental or a National Bank, NBA, or the thousands of companies with National in their name.

The NFL is a business interest not a governmental agency and as such deserves NO patriotism towards them.

Although the NFL may be kind of a religion to many it has no religious standing with the US government.
 
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The only reason I brought the veteran thing into it is because trump played that card. I'm not emotional. I'm not the one telling anyone to go fuck themselves, fuck off, or shut the fuck up. I really thought we could have a friendly conversation with differing opinions. But no worries, I thought this was a friendlier place than it apparently is. Oh well.

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Dude don’t take it personally, folks over here are nicer than you think they are! Most of them are assholes, especially pulsevape And TIME, but they good people!
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Tpat591

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Doesn't the word "National" in NFL mean anything?
Speaking of Obama Care (which somebody must have mentioned..)
My insurance/HMO deal is going up 1300% and I got their notice BEFORE Trump signed his woosy
Executive Order that won't take effect until 2019..
Exactly what Obamacare was designed to do. Redistribute wealth and bleed you dry - Just like The Paris Climate Accord, TPP, NAFTA and the EU one were designed to do for the USA. Easier to take control when the economy weakens you to the point that you lack the resources to fight back.
 

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No more than in National Car Rental or a National Bank, NBA, or the thousands of companies with National in their name.

The NFL is a business interest not a governmental agency and as such deserves NO patriotism towards them.

Although the NFL may be kind of a religion to many it has no religious standing with the US government.
You're such an asshole..wouldn't be too bad if you had a fucking sense of humor.
But since you stuck your foot in your mouth (as usual)
if the NFL doesn't deserve patriotism (your words, I refuse to sound that dumb)\the public who goes to or watches their spectacles
don't deserve the NFL's twisted idea of patriotism or lack thereof.
Read:
https://briancain.com/blog/the-history-of-the-national-anthem-at-sporting-games.html
The song gained popularity throughout the 19th century and bands played it during public events, such as July 4th celebrations. On July 27, 1889, Secretary of the Navy Benjamin F. Tracy signed General Order #374, making “The Star-Spangled Banner” the official tune to be played at the raising of the flag.

In 1916, President Woodrow Wilson ordered that “The Star-Spangled Banner” be played at military and other appropriate occasions. The playing of the song two years later during the seventh-inning stretch of the 1918 World Series, and thereafter during each game of the series is often noted as the first instance that the Anthem was played at a baseball game, though evidence shows that the “Star-Spangled Banner” was performed as early as 1897 at opening day ceremonies in Philadelphia and then more regularly at the Polo Grounds in New York City beginning in 1898.

In any case, the tradition of performing the National Anthem before every baseball game began during World War II. Today, the Anthem is performed before the beginning of all MLS, NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL games (with at least one American team playing), as well as in a pre-race ceremony portion of every NASCAR race. Performances at particularly large events are often ended with a military flypast.

Read more:
http://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events
on September 5, 1918, during Game 1 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox and the Chicago Cubs. It was an era when the Red Sox still had Babe Ruth, and the phrase “the last time the Cubs won the World Series” wasn’t yet a joke. In fact, the two teams had won six of the last 15 world championship titles.
Yet even though the event featured two teams at the top of their games, the crowd was somber that day, writes ESPN The Magazine. Since entering the Great War a year and a half ago, more than 100,000 U.S. soldiers had died. And just a day before the game, a bomb had exploded in Chicago, (the city in which the game was held), killing four people and injuring dozens more. In addition, the U.S. government had recently announced that it would begin drafting major league baseball players.

All this sat heavy on the shoulders of both the players and the smaller-than-usual crowd of fans that day. But during the seventh-inning stretch, the U.S. Navy band began to play the Star-Spangled Banner; and something changed.
As the song began, Red Sox infielder Fred Thomas—who was in the Navy and had been granted furlough to play in the World Series—immediately turned toward the American flag and gave it a military salute, according to the Chicago Tribune. Other players turned to the flag with hands over hearts, and the already-standing crowd began to sing. At the song’s conclusion, the previously quiet fans erupted in thunderous applause. At the time, the New York Times reported that it “marked the highest point of the day’s enthusiasm.” The song would be played at each of the Series’ remaining games, to increasingly rapturous response. And patriotism played a part right from the start, as the Red Sox gave free tickets to wounded veterans and honored them during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner before the start of the decisive Game 6.

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So you see, Crumb. Because sports are and always have been a placebo for humanity's warrior instincts
and because we have National leagues and American leagues and Olympics where we duke it out
with other groups w/o using martial weapons,
AND because athletes are or should be examples of what and who warriors should be,
AND because playing the National Anthem at the beginning of sporting events is a PATRIOTIC TRADITION
national pride is part and parcel of any sporting event in the US and all around the world.

A sporting event is not the place to show disrespect for the nation's where sport fans adore you and make certain an athlete lives comfortably and is payed millions of dollars.
If an athlete, say a Brazilian soccer player refused to stand for the Brazilian national anthem
and furthermore made an issue out of said protest he'd have his ass handed to him
and wind up by the side of the road missing a kidney.
 

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Her main problem wasn't so much that she's a woman but that she was an intelligence analyst.
That's a tough job where you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

...she probably didn't put out to the right people either...
McCabe is dirty as the day is long. Wray sounds like he might be as well. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama loaded all the services with crony stooges that have made a ton of money co-opting the services to illicit ends rather than serving the security of our nation. Mueller is the poster child for this and packed the FBI top to bottom on their behalf.

Trump was never going to be successful returning power to the people while these entrenched agents of globalism exist in these departments. Trump's biggest failing was not having a list of trustworthy replacements ready day one for all 17 IS Agencies. He thought he could work within the system using the Republican majority and his authority as president straighten them out to get it done.

Honestly can't believe he has lasted as long as he has and that is only because Netanyahu thinks he is gonna get Syria's oil fields and Saudi will attack Iran. The worst thing was Trump allowed Netanyahu to get our Congress to tie his hands from working with Putin to solve Syria and seek peace with all this Trump/Russa horseshit. Sad that we allow our Congress to sign an AIPAC Pledge to a foreign power over our own country. AIPAC should be declared an agent of a foreign power and all in Congress who signed that pledge should be removed from office without question.

Israel wants WW3, make no mistake, and we are supposed to take on Russia in their playbook. The real question is was this the script all along with Trump or is he gonna tell Benjy to screw off when the time comes.
 
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Funny, seems to me you told me that my post told you all you needed to know about me and you said "I can't waste my time talking to someone at your level." You didn't come here to have a discussion and examine both sides of an issue. You came to virtue signal, insult, and act superior.

I really did not come here for that. Maybe I overstepped in saying that I can't waste my time talking to someone at your level. So, I will apologize for that, it was not constructive or mature and I am not one who likes to offend without good reason. For the record, I do not suppose myself to be superior to anyone. I am the same as anyone else, and can get my feathers ruffled and turn into an immature asshole at times.
 

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My statement stands that pro sporting events deserve no patriotism. Although use of it at sporting events has helped raise owners incomes. And helped to fuel natonalism.

Good bit of history there though.
 

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My statement stands that pro sporting events deserve no patriotism. Although use of it at sporting events has helped raise owners incomes.

Good bit of history there though.
I agree. A simple solution to this whole thing would be to stop having the anthem sung at sporting events. But I also know that it would not go over well with a lot of people.
 

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I could get on board with some protesting, or shows of discontent, for systemic law enforcement brutality,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they didn't make it a race issue.

But these BLM, ANTIFA, NFL and other libtarded fucks don't really care about law enforcement brutality. Not a single one of them mentioned the last guy I know of that got shot by a cop for no reason. He wasn't black.

They won't get my support until they drop the racist slant.
 

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The outrage at my statment about the NFL. shows that it indeed has a religious like following and that I am speaking blasphemy :)
 

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McCabe is dirty as the day is long. Wray sounds like he might be as well. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama loaded all the services with crony stooges that have made a ton of money co-opting the services to illicit ends rather than serving the security of our nation. Mueller is the poster child for this and packed the FBI top to bottom on their behalf.

Trump was never going to be successful returning power to the people while these entrenched agents of globalism exist in these departments. Trump's biggest failing was not having a list of trustworthy replacements ready day one for all 17 IS Agencies. He thought he could work within the system using the Republican majority and his authority as president straighten them out to get it done.

Honestly can't believe he has lasted as long as he has and that is only because Netanyahu thinks he is gonna get Syria's oil fields and Saudi will attack Iran. The worst thing was Trump allowed Netanyahu to get our Congress to tie his hands from working with Putin to solve Syria and seek peace with all this Trump/Russa horseshit. Sad that we allow our Congress to sign an AIPAC Pledge to a foreign power over our own country. AIPAC should be declared an agent of a foreign power and all in Congress who signed that pledge should be removed from office without question.

Israel wants WW3, make no mistake, and we are supposed to take on Russia in their playbook. The real question is was this the script all along with Trump or is he gonna tell Benjy to screw off when the time comes.

You'll get no argument from me there..All agreed..except I think Donald has been playing us all along
 

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I could get on board with some protesting, or shows of discontent, for systemic law enforcement brutality,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they didn't make it a race issue.

But these BLM, ANTIFA, NFL and other libtarded fucks don't really care about law enforcement brutality. Not a single one of them mentioned the last guy I know of that got shot by a cop for no reason. He wasn't black.

They won't get my support until they drop the racist slant.

I do agree, somewhat, it is not a black only issue. However, it is statistically a high majority black issue. But, the fact is police need more accountability, period. No one should feel that they are above the law, and some of them do simply because the traditional recourse for unlawful actions by a law officer is minimal at best. But the fact that it is easiest for them to get away with it in inner city poor areas which tend to be mostly black combined with the unfortunate racially charged statements that SOME officers get caught saying perpetrates this as a race issue.
 

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The outrage at my statment about the NFL. shows that it indeed has a religious like following and that I am speaking blasphemy :)
I'm outraged that your mother didn't get an abortion
but I am not a sports fan at all. When y'all are watching Monday night Football
or whenever it is that they play those games I typically watch old movies on TV.

Besides, your statment (SIC) made no sense at all.
However, yes sports have what could be considered a religious following.
As I mentioned above, sports are a placebo for our warrior natures.
 
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I'm outraged that your mother didn't get an abortion
but I am not a sports fan at all. When y'all are watching Monday night Football
or whenever it is that they pay those games I typically watch old movies on TV.

Besides, your statment (SIC) made no sense at all.
However, yes sports have what could be considered a religious following.
As I mentioned above, sports are a placebo for our warrior natures.

I am surprised that you are Pro Abortion...

Warrior natures?
LOL Most often couch warriors that weigh 300 lbs.
Can quote all the members names, stats, etc but cannot seem to know enough for a good job.

As exhibited that Curling does not have a big following.

I watch NO pro sports and virtually no college sports.

"
UofL Athletic Association board gives unanimous vote to fire Pitino
Louisville's Athletics Association voted unanimously on Monday to fire men's basketball coach Rick Pitino in the wake of a national federal investigation of the sport."

I am surprised that they did not have to impeach him?
 

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I do agree, somewhat, it is not a black only issue. However, it is statistically a high majority black issue. But, the fact is police need more accountability, period. No one should feel that they are above the law, and some of them do simply because the traditional recourse for unlawful actions by a law officer is minimal at best. But the fact that it is easiest for them to get away with it in inner city poor areas which tend to be mostly black combined with the unfortunate racially charged statements that SOME officers get caught saying perpetrates this as a race issue.

I agree with you that cops need to be held accountable just like i think politicians need to be held accountable.
But I do suggest that you research the matter a little more.
Blacks aren't the only ones who suffer abuse at the hands of rogue cops.
As a matter of fact they're in the minority even when compared as a minority.

Cops can get away with "it" anywhere whether it's in the inner city or suburbia.
Again as a matter of fact
though I prefer to not suffer police abuse anywhere
if I was going to have to deal with it I would rather it happen in the inner city where there are bound to be many witnesses
than in suburbia where few people will even bother to look out the window.
 

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I am surprised that you are Pro Abortion...

Warrior natures?
LOL Most often couch warriors that weigh 300 lbs.
Can quote all the members names, stats, etc but cannot seem to know enough for a good job.

As exhibited that Curling does not have a big following.

I watch NO pro sports and virtually no college sports.

"
UofL Athletic Association board gives unanimous vote to fire Pitino
Louisville's Athletics Association voted unanimously on Monday to fire men's basketball coach Rick Pitino in the wake of a national federal investigation of the sport."

I am surprised that they did not have to impeach him?

Dude, you are mentally disjointed.
No, I am not pro abortion but in some cases it is the best thing for humanity.
See, as I've mentioned I used to train and breed dogs. I learned from my German breeder friends
that drowning the runts is actually a good thing as you do the breed a favor by eliminating the crap from the gene pool.

I don't see what your 300 pound example has to do with this or how he fits in your argument.
I did say sports are a placebo, a replacement for the real thing.

Regarding what they do in Louisville...LOL,
WTF do you expect from Kentuckians?

Edit: out of respect for the more puritanical and the lady moderators
I have deleted the "Squeal Like a Pig" scene and replaced it with
 

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I really did not come here for that. Maybe I overstepped in saying that I can't waste my time talking to someone at your level. So, I will apologize for that, it was not constructive or mature and I am not one who likes to offend without good reason. For the record, I do not suppose myself to be superior to anyone. I am the same as anyone else, and can get my feathers ruffled and turn into an immature asshole at times.
As we all can, hence some of the responses you saw. May I ask what about my response or post makes you think you wouldn't want to talk to someone at my level. Is it the ingrained stigma that I am a conspiracy theorist nutcase because I believe that Dick Cheney allowed Mossad to plant Demoliton charges in three buildings at the WTC to:
  • solve Larry Silverstein's Asbestos problem
  • institue the Patriot Act provisions that were written prior to 9-11
  • give justification to attack Afghanistan to take over the poppy fields and install a central bank
  • give justification to attack Iraq to take over the oil fields and install a central bank
Is it because I believe the Southern Poverty Law Center (a creation of the CIA) orchestrated the entire Charlottesville False Flag event on behalf of the Democratic Party literally bussing in both sides of the demonstrators on the same buses and employed stunt people and crisis actors to stage the Challenger attack?

Is it because I believe Vegas was a staged event orchestrated by rouge elements of the CIA and FBI co-opting a planned National Preparedness Exercise behalf of Mike Chertoff & Associates to sell backscatter scanners (in that video I just posted), and increase gun control legislation that conveniently resulted in one American death for each Tomahawk missile Trump fired into Syria so it can be blamed off on ISIS - a group created by the CIA/Mossad/GIP so we could have an excuse to invade Libya, Syria & Iran (and install central banks in each).

Do you not believe your government capable of the atrocity of killing its own citizens to have an excuse to take away our freedoms and send our sons and daughters off to war for profit of a select few?

As a veteran who put your life on the line and served honorably, do you not believe you deserve better from your country than for it it pursue these hidden agendas by staging these false attacks tainted with the blood of Americans?
 
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I agree with you that cops need to be held accountable just like i think politicians need to be held accountable.
But I do suggest that you research the matter a little more.
Blacks aren't the only ones who suffer abuse at the hands of rogue cops.
As a matter of fact they're in the minority even when compared as a minority.

Cops can get away with "it" anywhere whether it's in the inner city or suburbia.
Again as a matter of fact
though I prefer to not suffer police abuse anywhere
if I was going to have to deal with it I would rather it happen in the inner city where there are bound to be many witnesses
than in suburbia where few people will even bother to look out the window.

I have done my research. Again, I am not saying it is a black only, or even a minority only issue, I am saying that some key factors in play perpetrate it to be just that though. And in many cases, the brutality is, in fact, racially motivated. Enough to promote this issue in this direction, anyway.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.9569dcd9fac8

http://www.snopes.com/do-police-kill-more-whites-than-black-people/

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36826297

These are just a few articles that explain why this is so.
 

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Dude, you are mentally disjointed.
No, I am not pro abortion but in some cases it is the best thing for humanity.
See, as I've mentioned I used to train and breed dogs. I learned from my German breeder friends
that drowning the runts is actually a good thing as you do the breed a favor by eliminating the crap from the gene pool.

I don't see what your 300 pound example has to do with this or how he fits in your argument.
I did say sports are a placebo, a replacement for the real thing.

Regarding what they do in Louisville...LOL,
WTF do you expect from Kentuckians?

Edit: out of respect for the more puritanical and the lady moderators
I have deleted the "Squeal Like a Pig" scene and replaced it with
LOL at least I do not have to results to insults.
Your doing so speaks volumes about you.

but I will be nice and not spell out the psychological implications on here.
 

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Do you not believe your government capable of the atrocity of killing its own citizens to have an excuse to take away our freedoms and send our sons and daughters off to war for profit of a select few?
Time to post this again.
If a banker had $300 million plus in the bank would he not invest $3000 to secure
and gain total control over the 300 million?

We're nothing but numbers and fodder for the machine
 
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