Zero Modz by Carlos Creation ... CLONED!!

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Thanks again for posting pictures of the internals. I wish they would sell just the casing without the shit board. That looks easy as hell to work on. Do you have any idea on the eta for focal getting them in stock? I'm not sure what the 15 day period is for them per the website.

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No, I don't know what their actual date of arrival is, but if you email them I am sure they could give you a better idea than I could. :)
 

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Hmm, I wonder if that is the same "DNA30" board used in my Chana30 from Focal?

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The board looks slightly different, but it seems to behave the same. I happen to have a 1.1 ohm Orchid v4 build ATM, and tried the same power settings as your test. All were the same except the 20W was showing 4.7 and 30W showed 5.8, so pretty damn close. Using a fully charged Samsung 25R.
I don't think so .. the Focal Hana is made by KSD, and looking at your display screen it is different from the chip in the Zero. There is an unusual amount of space between resistance/voltage on the left, and the wattage display on the right. The font used looks different from every other DNA 30 clone chip that I have .. I will be able to demonstrate that more clearly in my review.
 

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I don't think so .. the Focal Hana is made by KSD, and looking at your display screen it is different from the chip in the Zero. There is an unusual amount of space between resistance/voltage on the left, and the wattage display on the right. The font used looks different from every other DNA 30 clone chip that I have .. I will be able to demonstrate that more clearly in my review.
my KSD board doesnt even regulate. sad excuse for a chip, i can vape my kayfun at 30w and 15w and its the exact same. only one more week or so until my vaporshark comes in and i go to vape heaven
 

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No, I don't know what their actual date of arrival is, but if you email them I am sure they could give you a better idea than I could. :)
No, tried that they said "15 days". All good, can't wait to rip that box apart.
 

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Damien from Bloody Good vapes just posted a review of the authentic Zero DNA 30 .. So maybe this is what spurred Shozza on :p The brass patina sleeve in this video is gorgeous, and I don't even like patina.

 

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I don't think so .. the Focal Hana is made by KSD, and looking at your display screen it is different from the chip in the Zero. There is an unusual amount of space between resistance/voltage on the left, and the wattage display on the right. The font used looks different from every other DNA 30 clone chip that I have .. I will be able to demonstrate that more clearly in my review.
Well, IDK...the screen looks pretty identical to yours, even if the board is different.
Could be the same "dna30" chip on different boards.. Here is a comparison and my lock screen for even more text:





Perhaps mine isn't KSD? My does say Evolv DNA on power-up fwiw..
I know it's a newer listing over at Focal, perhaps they changed the company.
I've never had any other DNA-type devices, so I'm just curious. :)

my KSD board doesnt even regulate. sad excuse for a chip, i can vape my kayfun at 30w and 15w and its the exact same. only one more week or so until my vaporshark comes in and i go to vape heaven
Odd, mine seems to regulate well, although I don't have any inline meters or such to truly test it out.
 

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I ordered one but I am still really looking forward to review Nikki.
Monday dear :), and it should be a loooooong detailed one too :p I am stalking DHL like a mad person hoping these dern sleeves arrive by Friday .. Everyone, say a special prayer to Baby Jesus! LOL
 

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Well, IDK...the screen looks pretty identical to yours, even if the board is different.
Could be the same "dna30" chip on different boards.. Here is a comparison and my lock screen for even more text:





Perhaps mine isn't KSD? My does say Evolv DNA on power-up fwiw..
I know it's a newer listing over at Focal, perhaps they changed the company.
I've never had any other DNA-type devices, so I'm just curious. :)



Odd, mine seems to regulate well, although I don't have any inline meters or such to truly test it out.
Its possible the newer ones are not from KSD .. I don't own any of the FC DNA boxes so I can't say for sure that the recent ones are from KSD. But you can lock your wattage, the wattage doesn't lock on the Zero. It can only change from left to right and lock firing, but not wattage.
 

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Its possible the newer ones are not from KSD .. I don't own any of the FC DNA boxes so I can't say for sure that the recent ones are from KSD. But you can lock your wattage, the wattage doesn't lock on the Zero. It can only change from left to right and lock firing, but not wattage.
Hmm, interesting. Thanks! :)

Yeah, mine does lock power settings and is fire-able when locked. (holding down both adjustment buttons)

IDK how to switch the screen or do the other DNA things, but I do like knowing stuff. Detective work is fun eh?

Also, I'd be more likely to want the Focal Zero clone if it uses the same stuff mine has, because it seems to work well. Really wish these makers would just TELL what chip is being used upfront, so consumers can make better decisions.

Strange, according to Doris on their forums, it IS a KSD chipset in mine: http://focalvapor.com/topic/gerneralproductdiscussion/what-chipset-/78

Perhaps a newer revision? IDK, I don't feel like paying $55-60 over the price of this mod just for a pretty case...
 
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Ya know, I thought that .. I did wonder if he was trying to score himself an authentic with this little bit of entertainment :p
He is. I can buy one tomorrow (Gently Used).....everyone has their price.
 

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leather wrapped zero...I likey. Only problem now is I didn't order another extra sleeve to experiment with.
 

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leather wrapped zero...I likey. Only problem now is I didn't order another extra sleeve to experiment with.
More good news .. I just saw a friends post on FB, he received his Zero today direct from Yosen and he said his threads are great and the Zero hits like a train. His comments are on Malaysian Vape Addicts timeline if anyone wants to check it out.

Now you mister need to buy one extra sleeve so you can experiment :p I had planned from jump to wrap at least one of them because I don't really like sandblasted SS. I really want the gray and gold Limited Edition sleeves but I guess I will have to wait for FC get their stock in cuz Yosen sent me black and silver :( #beggercan'tbechoosey
 

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I finally got one my sleeves wrapped in faux Red leather :cool: Extra special thank you to Ficticious Character, without whom Pimpin my sleeve would not be possible :D



That looks freaking awesome together. Looks like it should of been offered as a factory option. Great taste you have. Can't wait for the review.
 

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Ok, so you gotta share on how you did that to your sleeve. I wanna look cool too you know!
 

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Ok, so you gotta share on how you did that to your sleeve. I wanna look cool too you know!
I ordered vinyl samples with adhesive backing from 3M, thanks to a link provided by Ficticious Character :) These samples are PERFECT for wrapping box mods, and is especially easy to do on these sleeves. All you need is a sharp box cutter :D

1. I cleaned the sleeve with alcohol first, then I cut a piece of vinyl that was larger then the sleeve.

2. I removed half of the protective backing from the vinyl and then pressed one side of the sleeve into the sleeve making sure that there was excess vinyl around the outer edges of the sleeve.

3. The I removed the rest of the protective backing from the vinyl and smooth, and folded the vinyl over the back and top side of the sleeve.

4. I used hair cutting shears to remove a portion of the excess vinyl, but not all of it. I left about 3-4mm of excess.

5. Then you take the box cutter and trim the remaining excess vinyl around all the edges by letting the blade rest on the edge of the sleeve so that the trimming is precise. If the box cutter is sharp it will slice through the vinyl like butter.

Poof Walla, you got your own custom wrap. And let me say that this sleeve has become my hands down favorite because the faux leather provides such a nice feel in the hand. The only downside to this sleeve wrap is you loose a bit of traction when its time to pull the sleeve off. So I have had to use a flat head screwdriver between the body frame and sleeve to push/pry the sleeve back a little, then I can pull it off.
 

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I also got in the silver and black Special Edition sleeves yesterday :D For some reason I have been thinking all this time that they were "Limited Edition" :p Anyhoo .. one thing they did differently was they did not put Carlos Pang's name on the back of the Special Edition sleeve, and they also did not engrave any serial #'s into the sleeve.

Another unexpected change was that I was expecting a black carbon fiber sleeve as per Yosen's photos, but I received a black glossy finished Special Edition sleeve instead. I don't mind however, when I skyped Yosen to find out what happened to the carbon fiber, they said that they will have have this sleeve ready for another month? .. Then why are they listing it for sale? The black glossy Special Edition sleeve was not even listed as an option.

Well ... at least its nice :p

 

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Nikki can you post a picture of the black sleeve on the zero for me plz :)
 

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Thanks so much for the info Nikkita. Got kicked in the gonads this am when my car decided I wasn't in enough debt and died so it may be a bit before I get one, but hopefully I can do as good a job as you did on yours eventually. Maybe a sweet black.Friday sale will help.the cause!
 

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Why not the newer 40 chip? I like the look of it but 40 is a bare minimum for what I vape. Maybe they will throw a 40 chip in once they sell a ton of these and need something to bring people back? I'm ignorant in the ways of the box mod, maybe it's not possible or this manufacturer doesn't make anything higher than 30?

The battery gauge dipping is a live reading of what's going on in the battery, voltage sag. That happens when you press the go button on any device mech or regulated, if other box mods gauge doesn't move they must have a delay on it so it won't react to a change in voltage unless its longer than xx seconds.
As the battery is drained further it sags further too, that's why you are seeing the gauge move more after you've used it for a while.
 

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Nikki can you post a picture of the black sleeve on the zero for me plz :)
ahahaha .. you have to wait for the review :p I do have pictures of the black one on the Zero but I feel like I need to save something for the review, which is very pic heavy. This is shaping up to be one of my longest reviews ..

Wait me honey boo :D
 

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Thanks so much for the info Nikkita. Got kicked in the gonads this am when my car decided I wasn't in enough debt and died so it may be a bit before I get one, but hopefully I can do as good a job as you did on yours eventually. Maybe a sweet black.Friday sale will help.the cause!
Oh damn, that sucks! Arghh, don't you hate it when life happens? :( I am sure they will still be here when you are ready to get one, and like you said maybe they will be on sale, or just flat out price reduced. :)
 

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ahahaha .. you have to wait for the review :p I do have pictures of the black one on the Zero but I feel like I need to save something for the review, which is very pic heavy. This is shaping up to be one of my longest reviews ..

Wait me honey boo :D
:( OK, guess it won't be much of a wait to see it ;)
 
Uuuuughhhh. I guess this is a good thing? Anyone else get this message? At least we wont have to worry about the 510 connection and maybe the chip will be dialed back. Hope its not an excuse

From Focalecig:

"We are contacting you to advise that Yosen Technology has informed us of a shipping delay of our paid order for the Zero mod clone. The reason for the delay is to upgrade and improve the DNA 30 chip in the Zero mod. We have been told that this upgrade will require an additional 7 days to fulfill our that we paid before this product was listed for sale."
 

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Uuuuughhhh. I guess this is a good thing? Anyone else get this message? At least we wont have to worry about the 510 connection and maybe the chip will be dialed back. Hope its not an excuse

From Focalecig:

"We are contacting you to advise that Yosen Technology has informed us of a shipping delay of our paid order for the Zero mod clone. The reason for the delay is to upgrade and improve the DNA 30 chip in the Zero mod. We have been told that this upgrade will require an additional 7 days to fulfill our that we paid before this product was listed for sale."
I know about it and will take the extra wait, of course I want it asap, but I guess at least they are addressing what they see as a problem, rather than just rushing them out with defects, not I really saw any defect with what Nikki has reported so far, hope it really is a upgrade and not a downgrade.
 

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Uuuuughhhh. I guess this is a good thing? Anyone else get this message? At least we wont have to worry about the 510 connection and maybe the chip will be dialed back. Hope its not an excuse

From Focalecig:

"We are contacting you to advise that Yosen Technology has informed us of a shipping delay of our paid order for the Zero mod clone. The reason for the delay is to upgrade and improve the DNA 30 chip in the Zero mod. We have been told that this upgrade will require an additional 7 days to fulfill our that we paid before this product was listed for sale."
I received the same email from Doris. Asked if I wanted to wait or cancel. Of course, wait. Hopefully good things come out of this.
 

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Uuuuughhhh. I guess this is a good thing? Anyone else get this message? At least we wont have to worry about the 510 connection and maybe the chip will be dialed back. Hope its not an excuse

From Focalecig:

"We are contacting you to advise that Yosen Technology has informed us of a shipping delay of our paid order for the Zero mod clone. The reason for the delay is to upgrade and improve the DNA 30 chip in the Zero mod. We have been told that this upgrade will require an additional 7 days to fulfill our that we paid before this product was listed for sale."
Just checked. I got the same message.
 

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;) Will it include the website you found those vinyl samples from ?
Ahaha .. actually I was going to post the link in my review but I feared that 3M might get bombarded with sample orders. But Fictitious Character posted the link for you here, and he is the one that I got it from in the first place. Awesome find ... I ordered more samples tonight :p
 

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Ahaha .. actually I was going to post the link in my review but I feared that 3M might get bombarded with sample orders. But Fictitious Character posted the link for you here, and he is the one that I got it from in the first place. Awesome find ... I ordered more samples tonight :p
lol my bad. It will still fit great in your review.
 

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After the shozza review I think we will all be expecting more action packed reviews with lots of sharp objects and mod guts flying through the air like an episode of the walking dead. Does it take a brain hit to kill a Zero mod clone? :D

Your reviews are always well researched and thorough - this was another great one. Thank you Nikki!
 

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Just read your review. Good stuff! Can not wait to get mine.
 

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After the shozza review I think we will all be expecting more action packed reviews with lots of sharp objects and mod guts flying through the air like an episode of the walking dead. Does it take a brain hit to kill a Zero mod clone? :D

Your reviews are always well researched and thorough - this was another great one. Thank you Nikki!
Ahahaha .. if I ever receive any thing as crappy as Shozza did then I will add a video clip of me kickboxing it to death, lol :p Thank you for reading and commenting hun. :)
 

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Just read your review. Good stuff! Can not wait to get mine.
Thank you! I am wishing you all good quality control ;) I can't wait to start seeing other people's Zero porn :cool:
 

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