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Very nice very nice. I'm contemplating getting another vt133...
Well we wiped out Ecig's stock of VT133's numerous times, now were moving onto Vape NW
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Me too.
At least I got a black VT133 (and another eVic AIO for my wife). $32 for the eVic AIO? Pretty damn good price for a full feature all-in-one.
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Ok so story time since it's slow right now here
I know I seen people here use wireandstuff.co.uk (aka crazy wire) , but I'm not happy with them right now wonder if anyone had the same issue. Anyway I ordered form them on 8/1, mostly because they have the elusive nife48/52 wire I wanted to try out. So I ordered 1 spool of that and 1 spool of SS430. Had my Vt133 set up for NiFe 48/52 since then waiting for it to arrive. I also placed 2 orders from china vendors the same day (3f vape for a so horney clone, notch coils, and some drip tips, gearbest for a VT133) So around 8/15 both the gearbest and 3f vape arrived. the crazy wire website isn't great and i couldn't look up my order. I only had my email they sent to go off of. and no tracking number of anything. just said shipped 8/2. It's coming from the UK and I'm in the US so i expect a couple weeks to deliver. no big deal. come the 17th now. 16 days after my order I send them an email asking for an update. They reply on the 18th saying they couldn't find my order and it must have been lost in the mail but they will ship out with a bonus gift. So i say OK cool, thanks. The order arrives on 08-22 (last monday) But it's signature required. Wasn't expecting it so soon or to be sig required so the USPS left a note in my mailbox I can pick it up there. I check the tracking number on the package looks like it was shipped on the 15th. 2 days prior to me asking for an update. that with the lack of a tracking number on my shipped email, leads me to believe it wasn't lost in the mail and that they just didn't ship my order for 2 weeks even though they sent me an email saying it was shipped. So anyway due to my work schedule i can't pick it up until Saturday the 27th. So i got on Saturday to pick up. Open it up and the invoice says ss430 and nife 48 but they sent me ss430 and nife 70 (and a bonus SS430 roll i guess as a sorry we messed up) So i sent them an email saying they sent me the wrong wire on Saturday and haven't heard back yet. But they are probably closed for the weekend so no big deal. The whole experience though turned me off to wireandstuff though. Especially since I had my VT133 set up for Nife 48 for the past month
So on the positive side, I changed my Nife48 profile to a Nife 70 profile. did 25 gauge, 3MM ID 14 wraps dual coil on my tsunami 24. .14 ohms (IIRC) and it vapes great in TC mode on the VT133. also vaped good on the G2 at XXX mode 45% FSK. I'm doing 90 watts and 460 on the VT133 and 90 watts 500 on the G2. Feels about even with each other. The VT133 feels a little more accurate IMO but both are good at it.
Also ecig replied to me and said they expect stock for the VT133 back in 1-2 weeks
I know I seen people here use wireandstuff.co.uk (aka crazy wire) , but I'm not happy with them right now wonder if anyone had the same issue. Anyway I ordered form them on 8/1, mostly because they have the elusive nife48/52 wire I wanted to try out. So I ordered 1 spool of that and 1 spool of SS430. Had my Vt133 set up for NiFe 48/52 since then waiting for it to arrive. I also placed 2 orders from china vendors the same day (3f vape for a so horney clone, notch coils, and some drip tips, gearbest for a VT133) So around 8/15 both the gearbest and 3f vape arrived. the crazy wire website isn't great and i couldn't look up my order. I only had my email they sent to go off of. and no tracking number of anything. just said shipped 8/2. It's coming from the UK and I'm in the US so i expect a couple weeks to deliver. no big deal. come the 17th now. 16 days after my order I send them an email asking for an update. They reply on the 18th saying they couldn't find my order and it must have been lost in the mail but they will ship out with a bonus gift. So i say OK cool, thanks. The order arrives on 08-22 (last monday) But it's signature required. Wasn't expecting it so soon or to be sig required so the USPS left a note in my mailbox I can pick it up there. I check the tracking number on the package looks like it was shipped on the 15th. 2 days prior to me asking for an update. that with the lack of a tracking number on my shipped email, leads me to believe it wasn't lost in the mail and that they just didn't ship my order for 2 weeks even though they sent me an email saying it was shipped. So anyway due to my work schedule i can't pick it up until Saturday the 27th. So i got on Saturday to pick up. Open it up and the invoice says ss430 and nife 48 but they sent me ss430 and nife 70 (and a bonus SS430 roll i guess as a sorry we messed up) So i sent them an email saying they sent me the wrong wire on Saturday and haven't heard back yet. But they are probably closed for the weekend so no big deal. The whole experience though turned me off to wireandstuff though. Especially since I had my VT133 set up for Nife 48 for the past month
So on the positive side, I changed my Nife48 profile to a Nife 70 profile. did 25 gauge, 3MM ID 14 wraps dual coil on my tsunami 24. .14 ohms (IIRC) and it vapes great in TC mode on the VT133. also vaped good on the G2 at XXX mode 45% FSK. I'm doing 90 watts and 460 on the VT133 and 90 watts 500 on the G2. Feels about even with each other. The VT133 feels a little more accurate IMO but both are good at it.
Also ecig replied to me and said they expect stock for the VT133 back in 1-2 weeks
I've been down the road a few times with vendors (not just vape) in the past. In my experience, this is where you thank your lucky stars that you got anything at all and cut ties. Yeah, you can go back and forth to get what you paid for, but is it worth the time and hassle?
Also, check VapeNW, the silver/black is $80 with code now, black is $88. Last I checked they have stock. Might want to check and cancel the ecig order.
Just doing a quick drive-by and sorry for the off-topic post, but found this ironic since we just mentioned Ice Road Truckers here last week... Darrell died yesterday in a plane crash. (Lisa's partner.)
For on-topic news, the IPV6X was slated to be in stock at FT tomorrow... they did have that date all along as the ship date, but today it just says "pre-order" so we'll see what it says tomorrow.
For on-topic news, the IPV6X was slated to be in stock at FT tomorrow... they did have that date all along as the ship date, but today it just says "pre-order" so we'll see what it says tomorrow.
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Yeah i seen that deal. keeping my ecig order. I think i'm gonna hold off on buying another Vt133. for now. Maybe later on I'll get a 2nd one again.
As far as the order goes, I don't expect anything. Not asking for anything back. I'm fine with what I have. the nife70 works great and i have too much wire as it is. Just curious as to their response
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Can you give me a little info on the nife wire.
I had 200ft of 430 from crazywire and its all over the map. -kinda why I stick with 316.
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I'm so sorry for your loss
This is awkward, thought you knew the person.
Sorry for peoples losses
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that doens't bode well since I now have 2 spools of ss430 from them but I haven't tried it yet.
NiFe wire is good because it has all the positives of SS (can be fired in TC or Watt mode) but has a much higher TC curve then SS. it's all the positives of SS with none of the negatives. It's better then Ni or Ti because higher resistance and the TC curve is just as good. the difference between the 70 and 52 is that the 70 has a lower resistance so i have to build bigger coils then I would with 52 but not a big deal by any means. It's also less springy then Ti wire and really easy to build with
EDIT: From the website
Common Application(s):
Nickel-Iron Alloy is characterised by very low resistivity and high temperature coefficient of resistance. It is widely used in various heaters.
It can automatically control temperature and adjust power by keeping constant current limiting current.
In modern times it has found popularity in the vaping industry due to its high heat and electrical resistance.
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Might have to try some nife than
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also worth noting is is steam engine doesn't have NiFe 48. It has Nife 30 though. But i has NiFenthal (i think people confuse use for NiFe sometimes but NiFenthal is a nickel kenthal alloy where NiFe is a Nickel Iron alloy) but it looks like the curve for both NiFe and NiFenthal are close enough that you can use them interchangeably.
NiFe48 and NiFe52 are the same wire. Just depends which material the vendor list first.
. Just depends which material the vendor list first.
Iirc NiFe 70 is 70% Nickel so the TCR is higher and resistance is lower. I've never personally tried NiFe 70 (30 depending on how you look at it).
The CW SS430 I have has a higher TCR then the Unkamen SS430. According to Steam Engine the TCR of SS430 is .00138. On CW SS430 I was experimenting with a TCR between .00175-.002.
The Unkamen is supposed to be Nickel free. I'm assuming with the higher TCR of the CW SS430 that it's not.
Cheers,
Steve
The CW SS430 I have has a higher TCR then the Unkamen SS430. According to Steam Engine the TCR of SS430 is .00138. On CW SS430 I was experimenting with a TCR between .00175-.002.
The Unkamen is supposed to be Nickel free. I'm assuming with the higher TCR of the CW SS430 that it's not.
Cheers,
Steve
Crazy Wire used to be a great vendor. As we all found out a month ago that is no longer the case 
I am still waiting on my replacement wire from the bullshit SS430 they tried to send me 2 months ago
I am still waiting on my replacement wire from the bullshit SS430 they tried to send me 2 months ago
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That is correctNiFe48 and NiFe52 are the same wire
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Crazy Wire used to be a great vendor. As we all found out a month ago that is no longer the case
I am still waiting on my replacement wire from the bullshit SS430 they tried to send me 2 months ago
what happened to them then?
Steam engine has the DNA profile for that wire on their page
I agree with that. In the past it has always been that way. However when I was asking CW about them having both. I said they are the same wire. Their response to me was theirs isn't. The said one of theirs is 48% Nickel and the other 52%.NiFe48 and NiFe52 are the same wire
I have no way of knowing that yet. Just passing along what they said. The only way I see that being true is if they commissioned the wire because in past they have been the same as BoostAddict said.
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Steve
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Give or take yes. According to the site its 69-70% Ni, 28-30 Fe (Iron), Less then 1 Si (silicon), and less then .05 Mn (Manganese) I assume the last 2 are bonding agents in the alloy. Mn is often found in all iron and not on it's own.
But for the sake of actual usage saying 70% Ni and 30% Fe is fair. Both Ni and Fe have high TCRs but the Fe has a higher resistance as well and allows it to be fired in watt mode as well, giving you benefits of Ni200 wire with none of the negatives.
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I see reactor wire Nife which loks like it could be NiFe 52/48 but doesn't specify on steam engine. On their site it doesn't really specify it does have a little verbiage but the looks don't add up to 100%
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It's Nifethal 52 on Steam Engine.I see reactor wire Nife which loks like it could be NiFe 52/48 but doesn't specify on steam engine. On their site it doesn't really specify it does have a little verbiage but the looks don't add up to 100%
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We're in the same boat my friend.Crazy Wire used to be a great vendor. As we all found out a month ago that is no longer the case
I am still waiting on my replacement wire from the bullshit SS430 they tried to send me 2 months ago
Cheers,
Steve
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Maybe I mispoke then, becuase From what I read before Nifenthal was a Nickle Kenthal alloy. But now looking it up, It appears I was misinformed
I think Kanthal makes what most consider the real NiFe 48 (52). The stuff sold on the German site(s). They make it but it doesn't have Kanthal in it.
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Steve
The only place I get my NiFe from is in Germany. I wouldn't trust getting it from any other vendor, especially Crazy Wire. I do have some coming from them as a replacement wire for the ss430. I will let you know tomorrow if it's real. All overseas packages sent 1st class require a signature and my note was on the door when I came home.
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I see reactor wire Nife which loks like it could be NiFe 52/48 but doesn't specify on steam engine. On their site it doesn't really specify it does have a little verbiage but the looks don't add up to 100%
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I don't know why but this picture makes me want to say fuck it and rip apart my toaster for wire
I'm using the CW ss430 on my slice. FSK doesn't care what wire you use. Did you get your G2's yet?Crazy Wire used to be a great vendor. As we all found out a month ago that is no longer the case
I am still waiting on my replacement wire from the bullshit SS430 they tried to send me 2 months ago
FSK might not care what wire it is, but I care what wire I'm vaping on. It sure doesn't act like any SS430 I've ever tried.
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Steve
Dark side bro, come to the dark side. Lmao. You just don't want a G2 because it comes in 5 different colors, 10 if you include the LE. You know once you get started you'll buy all 5, possibly 10. Lol.
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I'm saving myself the frustration of using it on a DNA...
Almost sounds like your ready to try a FSK, I mean with all that CW ss430 layin around.
Got one of the G2 i ordered. Ecig screwed the order up
Your 27ga NiFe48 is in the mail btw Sorry... been crazy busy with this heat!
Any thoughts on the G2 yet?Got one of the G2 i ordered. Ecig screwed the order up
Thanks, I've been away anyhow.
Lol, I need a graph with a flat line.If Steve can't program it he's not going to buy it
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Truth be told I don't want one for a few reasons and none of them have to do with color.
1. If I have to adjust a curve until it tastes right without knowing what temperature it is. I call that taste control not TC.
2. I really don't like the fact it's a flat out box. You couldn't design it less ergonomically if you tried.
3. My personal opinion is those symbols combined with the flat out box shape is not pleasing to the eye either.
4. The way Ben started double talking whenever reviewers were calling him out struck me as a snake oil salesmen.
5. Lastly, the childish naming of the modes make me smh. Maybe if I was in my 20's I might dig it, since I'm not, I don't.
Cheers,
Steve
LMAO!!! I think you've been challenged Steve.If Steve can't program it he's not going to buy it
I was only messing with ya bro. We know you love the Vt133.
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This is as good as a place as any to ask this. Anyone else running vertical coils. I put a set in my Aromamizer and it's quite nice.
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I used to use them.. ... Might have to break out the Aromamizer and give them a try again
I'm thinking of running vertical notch coils in my Boreas. Wonder if they would fit?I used to use them.. ... Might have to break out the Aromamizer and give them a try again
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I have a Boreas. I haven't had time to try it out yet, still new in the box. Single coil build correct?
I think you can only do a dual coil build in the Boreas. I'm pretty sure there's no ceramic or rubber block off piece.
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At this minute Vape NW has the best price. The Black one is ~$88 shipped and the Silver Frame is $79.99 shipped with the Coupon Code : 20%offLaborday
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Steve
Are they worth the asking price?
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...dna200-box-mod-kit-57-00.269586/#post-1342787
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...dna200-box-mod-kit-57-00.269586/#post-1342787