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MannyScoot

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Screen 2 is the Hyperdrive screen that's for adjusting only wattage..... That's if you are a Wattage vaper...
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Thank you Manny. Issue was I did have a stuck button. WD-40 freed it! I also had bad firmware. Now battery lasts 5x as long. I love this Mod. It is my new daily driver. Only vape in house so not worried about wrecking it. Although I did drop one onto marble tile. Unscathed. Stabwood is tough stuff but not like Iron wood. Thank you for condolences on Aquarium. Yesterday I got very sad about it. It was horrible to see their pain then all gone. ZEbay is not supposed to have vape stuff. It either gets pulled or they do not notice it. People used to sell cigar wrappers with free "stale" cigar. Ebay eventually caught onto that trick too. Yes, vaping is a far cry from smoking but still against their TOS. I figure some 20,000 grit Emery cloth can shine this better. I have to go find it. It is here somewhere.
 

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Ahh, that is only 1300mah LIPO cannot remove easily either. Can't have it all I guess. If that was like 4000mah LIPO It would now be being sold to me LOL. It is a good looking one though. It says lifetime guarantee on internals but I doubt battery is included in that. A PITA to remove from a Stabwood Mod too.

Edit: Crown IV not leaking as of now. If it does not start it will be my first non-leaking tank! It is special anti-leak so... I am pissed I wrecked coil but bought 12 others anyways and got 50% off coils and tank. Can't complain there. Hope coils last 2 months like Crown III. I feel it is now the best tank. I did not even know it existed until went in store yesterday. This is a good little setup IMO. It says 80-90 watts but it is currently at 28.6W LOL. I guess I am a tootie puffer!
 
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I got it. @MannyScoot see other thread about DNA. I had a bad firmware! I got theme you have. Confusing but I dig it. I also got the TCR. Wrecked a $4 coil but I paid half that LOL. Crown IV is much nicer than Falcon, Freemax IMO. I just need to get this set to 90W. It seems Google removed all posts regarding that. Dangerous perhaps? LUC is best IMO. The 21700 fit fine in mine but that is the biggest. Wish someone made Stabwood 250C! I like pipes too.

I did not like everyone in other thread because too many posts before I posted again. I did not want to favor anyone(Manny) LOL.

Manny your good Mods are "better" Mods due to your TLC. I am glad ThorII is coated. Although I got juice on fire button. Instead of Stabwood it is just solid purple now. Figure I can sand it? Obviously button was not coated too. Even Crown IV. leaks! Must just be me. Every tank I ever had leaked like crap. That to me is only part of this that sucks. Since it has ruined many Mods of mine When I took off Crown III noticed juice dangerously close to USB port! Get juice in USB port board dead.

Crown IV coils take forever to break in so hope last as long as Crown III. Those last me 2 months! That is unheard of. Oh wait. Wrong setting. It is broken in. That theme is confusing. I know it is a lot but is there any way you can explain it to me, Manny? If too long I understand.

Maybe you should wrap paper towel around the air flow on your tank and blow down thru the drip tip to get the liquid out of the coil.
Also do not fill to the top- leave some room for air to help with pressure. Some will turn the tank upside down after filling too- but blowing down thru the drip tip to clear the juice out of the coil may help with leaking.
You need to find a Sub tank that will use lower wattages too or coils that will work for lower wattage. You are not getting enough power to the coil to vaporize the liquid.
 

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Yeah some coils need power..... The Falcon M2 coils work perfect at 60 watts..... The M1 or M2 are required to be Vaped at 70 watts optimal + or - 10 degrees.......

So at 60 watts is optimal....... If you take it below is not enough to heat up the coils.......

It was mentioned above using low wattage will simply flood the coil.....

So in order not to flood, the Falcon coils should be Vaped at above 50 watts..... I would say..... I found with 60 watts I CAN GET 2 MONTHS out of a coil......

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Yeah, like a top of the line kitchen. $250,000 in just the furniture grade cabinets. Not mine. I have a nice large home but it is for nothing here. This town too small for census but surrounding area 100% below the poverty level. So I was able to get all that stuff for nothing. In the suburbs though big time money. Even a great executive desk is like $20,000. Woodworkers get paid good and they should too. I collect other wood objects and wood is just something I really like. Stabwood is cool because it is much stronger than plain wood. Practice responsible shopping though and do not help deplete the forest.

I once walked into a $100,000+ kitchen where the builder and home owner were talking with a Hole Hawg, and a sawzall and told them I was here to cut in some openings. Good thing my boss at the time had a sense of humor. We did a house a few years later that had 2 kitchens totaling over $350,000 and told me not to do that again.
 

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Yeah some coils need power..... The Falcon M2 coils work perfect at 60 watts..... The M1 or M2 are required to be Vaped at 70 watts optimal + or - 10 degrees.......

So at 60 watts is optimal....... If you take it below is not enough to heat up the coils.......

It was mentioned above using low wattage will simply floods the coil.....

So in order not to flood, the Falcon coils should be Vaped at above 50 watts..... I would say.....

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I agree with you too- plus using the 75 DNA, no wonder his battery life is horrible, along with even using the lower wattage of the 70w Falcon coil.
@GorGon27 needs to find a sub tank that takes at least .5Ω coils where he can vape under 30w.
The Freemax Starre Pure is on of my Favorite sub Tanks- great .5Ω ceramic coils that last forever- top air flow too, no leaking

https://www.misthub.com/products/freemax-starre-pure-sub-ohm-tank
https://www.misthub.com/products/freemax-starre-pure-replacement-coil?variant=12894735564883




Starre Pure 0.5 ohm Coil

  • Pure Taste
  • Kanthal Heating Element
  • Medical Grade Cotton
  • Resistance: 0.5 ohm
  • Wattage Range: 20 - 50W
  • Sold as Pack of 5
 
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MannyScoot

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I once walked into a $100,000+ kitchen where the builder and home owner were talking with a Hole Hawg, and a sawzall and told them I was here to cut in some openings. Good thing my boss at the time had a sense of humor. We did a house a few years later that had 2 kitchens totaling over $350,000 and told me not to do that again.
I have seen $250,000 kitchens..... In 5 million dollar homes.....

I saw a $50k kitchen in a (3) million dollar home (Alice Cooper's)......2017-06-03.jpeg2017-06-03.jpeg2017-06-03.jpeg2017-06-03.jpeg
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MannyScoot

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I agree with you too- plus using the 75 DNA, no wonder his battery life is horrible, along with even using the lower wattage of the 70w Falcon coil.
@GorGon27 needs to find a sub tank that takes at least .5Ω coils where he can vape under 30w.
The Freemax Starre Pure is on of my Favorite sub Tanks- great .5Ω ceramic coils that last forever- top air flow too, no leaking

https://www.misthub.com/products/freemax-starre-pure-sub-ohm-tank
https://www.misthub.com/products/freemax-starre-pure-replacement-coil?variant=12894735564883




Starre Pure 0.5 ohm Coil

  • Pure Taste
  • Kanthal Heating Element
  • Medical Grade Cotton
  • Resistance: 0.5 ohm
  • Wattage Range: 20 - 50W
  • Sold as Pack of 5
Yeah but Gorgon needs a custom coil..... The Gorgon X Titanium coil..... Mesh/Screen Subohm pro .......

Massive clouds and flavor at (10) watts......



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I saw a $50k kitchen in a (3) million dollar home (Alice Cooper's).....
When he bought the historic building downtown Phx, a block from the ball park, he built it into Alice Cooper'stown and I did all the painting.
A couple months later he bought another historic building in Denver's LoDo district. Again a block from the ball park(Coors Field). And I went up there and painted that one. Took 3 months and went back a couple weeks more for some changes they made.
 

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When he bought the historic building downtown Phx, a block from the ball park, he built it into Alice Cooper'stown and I did all the painting.
A couple months later he bought another historic building in Denver's LoDo district. Again a block from the ball park(Coors Field). And I went up there and painted that one. Took 3 months and went back a couple weeks more for some changes they made.
He had a bad leak on a house he just got a couple months back, we inspected it with our thermal cameras to find where the water intrusion occurred..... He bought the home from The golfer Doug Ford or better said his family.....

The simplest kitchen, but beautiful entertainment room and pool table with movie theater.....

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GorGon27

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HUH, I cannot like anyone! It won't click the URL today.

Sadly, the ThorII is dead. Company has a good policy on that so hope for the best. Go look at Stabwood UK. would you get another ThorII or something else? I like the ThorII but compared to Thor battery life sucked.

$50,000 kitchen is like $350,000 home. Nothing incredible. Unless you come up to this neck of the woods. Our kitchen is insane and cost about 80K. Appliances the bulk of it. Amish cabinets ran like 6 Grand. Move to the poorest farm and your money will really stretch LOL.
 

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Stabwood Mods UK is 100% legit. They have Six Month return policy. Who has that? I suggest if you like what they have that you order nowhere else. They also change prices daily so Dollar amount is Same as Euro. Even if they are at a loss. Again, Who does that.

Okay, Folks. Look at site please! I only want DNA75C. Do not care which battery. Would you pick another ThorII or something else. Do not care about more money but only DNA. https://www.stabwoodmods.co.uk/ They will get to America in 4 days or less! Once again, Who does that LOL. I dig this company. Just discovered them but they are honest Folks running an honest business.

Please help me pick one!

Thank you Folks
 

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HUH, I cannot like anyone! It won't click the URL today.

Sadly, the ThorII is dead. Company has a good policy on that so hope for the best. Go look at Stabwood UK. would you get another ThorII or something else? I like the ThorII but compared to Thor battery life sucked.

$50,000 kitchen is like $350,000 home. Nothing incredible. Unless you come up to this neck of the woods. Our kitchen is insane and cost about 80K. Appliances the bulk of it. Amish cabinets ran like 6 Grand. Move to the poorest farm and your money will really stretch LOL.
Yeah that's what I was implying...... Alice has a very simple kitchen..... When I came in at 11:00 am he invited me to come in and sit down with him to have lunch......

Yep a bowl of Cheerios.......

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Stabwood Mods UK is 100% legit. They have Six Month return policy. Who has that? I suggest if you like what they have that you order nowhere else. They also change prices daily so Dollar amount is Same as Euro. Even if they are at a loss. Again, Who does that.

Okay, Folks. Look at site please! I only want DNA75C. Do not care which battery. Would you pick another ThorII or something else. Do not care about more money but only DNA. https://www.stabwoodmods.co.uk/ They will get to America in 4 days or less! Once again, Who does that LOL. I dig this company. Just discovered them but they are honest Folks running an honest business.

Please help me pick one!

Thank you Folks
Ant Knight 612 would be my choice..... Good color split percentage and it will always be worth $500 bucks.......

Everything else has green .... Stabwoods don't hold well with green...

But it's also a prefference.....

I like mods that are 26650 and dark blue and some purple and maybe red to bring it alive.... But with a larger percentage of dark.... And 612 has some purple mixed in ....it's gorgeous in my book....

And I love the SX 550J......



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I was thinking Bean Box 8 too. If you look closely at the gap on pipe not made as well as ThorII. However hand made Vs. machine made plus serial # on Bean. I was worried it's buttons would be mushy but I have no clue other than Mod I have similar. It does seem nicer to hold though. Plus Pinoy Mods generally way nicer than China. Utroner might not apply to that though. I am thinking Bean too.

Manny, 1 do they have that? 2 is that a DNA?

Heck if he eats Cheerios microwave and he is good to go. Doubt he uses Viking and Thermador. Bet he did not even have Subzero or built in fridge at all? Our kitchen is worth like $200,000 but only accounted for $80-100K of the home due to the poverty here. For instance a carpenter here that does a great job is elated to make $12 an hour! By comparison in nice suburbs maybe they make $150 an hour. Sure, I am surrounded by shit housing but I wanted a farm first and foremost. Then realized I could also build huge log home for very little. I mean it was not cheap but it was for nothing considering where it is. Location, Location, Location.

Manny please let me know if he has it and if it is DNA?> Otherwise like Bean. However that is 18650 but cannot be worse than ThorII on 21700. Mine is busted but I think the batteries are what they are. If I chain vape last about 20 minutes. By comparison chain vape Thor on 26650 lasts 3 hours. Maybe these batteries I grossly overpaid for suck. Go figure. A rip off artist does not stop at merely ripping one off. No, They must rub it in.

I want to say again Stabwood UK is 100%. Exceptionally pleased with them. I am not advertising for them I just give good people their due. Trust me bad folks will get the exact opposite from me and I shall let it be known.

I was just thinking when I got banned from Ecig forum. I did not really say anything that controversial or to incite anyone. Pu55y's. They in fact suck. You know beginner forum for no spam. F them. I do not say shit like Politics or Racism or anything like that shit anyways. OH I remember. I posted not to do business with a guy that was Anti Semitic. Very interestingly a year later he was shot to death by a Jew. I guess he hated him more than me seeing as I am not even Jewish. I do not condone shooting people either but just figures. Obviously I was right about that jerk. Had every right to say simply I would not do business with him and that got me banned. I bet he had an ad on there!

Anyways prefer VA if it is DNA and they have it otherwise I guess it is bean. Yes, ThorII is very nice but it is mass produced. Pinoy Mod is more special for my money. more money too.

Correction. JM Bean Box is not from Philippines it is from Poland. Not to be racist but Poland has some very good woodworkers. Just wonder what happens if I need that repaired in a year? Plus faceplate hard to get off. I guess Evolv handles it? Brandon once told me they are reluctant to touch a custom if they break it. I bet they can do a fine job though. It is only $46 more than my ThorII so no big deal there. 18650 is weak but have hundreds so no problem there either. I am torn between the two. Will take a bit to decide. Cannot ship until Monday anyways. If someone buy's either my decision is already made LOL.
 
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Oh, I already have a knight. Do not see need to spend $700 for 2. I just got multiple Asmodus because of sales for nothing. $100 is not $700 you know? Plus SX580J is out and I bet he comes with a new one very soon so I will wait that one out. It is between Thor II 23 and Bean 8. Hard to decide independent of price difference. I do not care about that part but on the one hand the ThorII has tighter tolerances but the Bean is more special. Pinoy is famous for Mods, china not so much but Ultroner is pretty decent. Other than the stuck button I found no flaws in it. I could not tell if Bean is acrylic finish? Prefer to sand it.
 

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I was thinking Bean Box 8 too. If you look closely at the gap on pipe not made as well as ThorII. However hand made Vs. machine made plus serial # on Bean. I was worried it's buttons would be mushy but I have no clue other than Mod I have similar. It does seem nicer to hold though. Plus Pinoy Mods generally way nicer than China. Utroner might not apply to that though. I am thinking Bean too.

Manny, 1 do they have that? 2 is that a DNA?

Heck if he eats Cheerios microwave and he is good to go. Doubt he uses Viking and Thermador. Bet he did not even have Subzero or built in fridge at all? Our kitchen is worth like $200,000 but only accounted for $80-100K of the home due to the poverty here. For instance a carpenter here that does a great job is elated to make $12 an hour! By comparison in nice suburbs maybe they make $150 an hour. Sure, I am surrounded by shit housing but I wanted a farm first and foremost. Then realized I could also build huge log home for very little. I mean it was not cheap but it was for nothing considering where it is. Location, Location, Location.

Manny please let me know if he has it and if it is DNA?> Otherwise like Bean. However that is 18650 but cannot be worse than ThorII on 21700. Mine is busted but I think the batteries are what they are. If I chain vape last about 20 minutes. By comparison chain vape Thor on 26650 lasts 3 hours. Maybe these batteries I grossly overpaid for suck. Go figure. A rip off artist does not stop at merely ripping one off. No, They must rub it in.

I want to say again Stabwood UK is 100%. Exceptionally pleased with them. I am not advertising for them I just give good people their due. Trust me bad folks will get the exact opposite from me and I shall let it be known.

I was just thinking when I got banned from Ecig forum. I did not really say anything that controversial or to incite anyone. Pu55y's. They in fact suck. You know beginner forum for no spam. F them. I do not say shit like Politics or Racism or anything like that shit anyways. OH I remember. I posted not to do business with a guy that was Anti Semitic. Very interestingly a year later he was shot to death by a Jew. I guess he hated him more than me seeing as I am not even Jewish. I do not condone shooting people either but just figures. Obviously I was right about that jerk. Had every right to say simply I would not do business with him and that got me banned. I bet he had an ad on there!

Anyways prefer VA if it is DNA and they have it otherwise I guess it is bean. Yes, ThorII is very nice but it is mass produced. Pinoy Mod is more special for my money. more money too.
Go with what you like..., Viscious Ant uses only Yihi chips.... Most the Yihi Sx350J V2...... The Chip is around $60 bucks and it's accurate and small so easy to stick in small mods.....

I've had all DNA mods and only (2) I like and are very accurate and have lasted strong without ever using Escribe and they last forever that's the DNA 200 and the DNA 75c

I have had several DNA 250 go wack...

Pick your colors pick good wood and your favorite colors and buy what you need for power ..... If you empty a 26650 in 3 hours that's heavy vaping.

I use in my Vapedroid and a 26650 Ijoy and 20ml all day on 42 watts.... And I'm still at 30% battery life.

I move and work, climbing ladders and in attics, and in electrical panels and that's the reason for small mods that are light and small to stick in side pockets and shirt pockets.

You have an idea and what you need....

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Thanks Manny. I just want to ask you if a Mod is made far away with no US service would you be wary? I prefer DNA75C. The 18650 cannot be worse than these 21700. Plus it is smaller. Rather get something not mass produced second time around. I have knight though and Duke too. YIHI is very good but I like Escribe. This crown IV says 80-90W. Chip only goes to 75. However I find it to be fine in temp control at just 28W! It is not leaking. Honestly I think I get leaks because I have a habit of exhaling into the drip tip. Oops. I am not blowing clouds or setting off alarms. It is fine. I actually really like 1x18650. I have hundreds of them. Plus LUC is better charger but barely fits 21700. I actually think the Thor was nicer than ThorII. The latest trend is exposed battery tube. The Bean has a gap but hand made Vs. robots. So to be expected. If he is a real Polish master It is probably much nicer overall. Just worry If Evolv will not service it. Ahh, I have not decided yet but it is between ThorII 23 and Bean box 8. Have a look Manny and tell me what you like. I will go with whatever gets most votes by tomorrow. If any more LOL. ThorII is a big heavy mod though. Just not sure yet. One Knight is enough at $750 and not nearly my most expensive mod! well, they appreciated already. Manny, I assume you prefer non acrylic coated finish? Decisions, decisions. It matters to me because it is the last one for a while. Spent too much already. I have it but need to curtail this "habbit". Habbit is collecting not vaping!
 

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Evolv is very good at fixing issues with a mod that has their board, @ no charge
 

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Edit: this is over. Sorry to drive you folks nuts. I got Ultroner ThorII 23. The bean box is simply not built as well for $100 more. Notice gap from tube to wood, glue on tube, out of place fire button. Grain is not as good. I feel #23 is much fancier than Bean Box. ThorII logo is silkscreened but very thick and not in a place where it shall easily rub off like Paranormal does. The Thor was maybe a nicer build overall but a lot of gold. I like the purple with the darker colors. Handmade builders simply cannot touch the super high end robots that ultroner has. I am pleased with this. First choice always right. I like it as much as the first one too. It is fine with me. Sorry I overtook the thread with this nonsense.
I have more expensive mods and cheaper ones this one is fine. I do not base quality on price. Ulroner owns it. who cares Philipines, Poland, china? all 3rd world countries. Okay, not really but all similar in distribution of wealth. Actually china has the Highest GNP. China is normally junk but not always. the fit and finish on these are superb.

I highly recommend stabwood mods UK. Straight up company with good prices and more than fair policies. They ship to US in 4 days with express shipping option. AAA Company IMO.
 
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I thought I had spoiled the thread. I am sorry. Ultroner coming from China of all places is real good quality. Only issue is 21700 was stupid option. They are huge. They only provide about 20% more MAH than an 18650! Stupid idea IMO. Should stuck with 26650 packs a wallop. Even if I got over JM's construction issues, after all it is hand made. It has but one 18650. The way I vape would be changing batteries every 20 minutes. That was my runner up though. One more issue Thor battery cap is much nicer but I can just use one on ThorII having 7 Thor's. Yes, I like them LOL. Vicious Ant is not hand made and it shows. He is American company with Fab in Philippines. Sadly, today hands can no longer match machines. You can say they put their heart into it but it is vastly surpassed by machines. They are even building 6,000 square foot homes in factories now! on site they just snap them together. I wanted an all green one but Manny warned me. Thank you Manny and all that have participated in this thread!

So here is what I got:

 

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I thought I had spoiled the thread. I am sorry. Ultroner coming from China of all places is real good quality. Only issue is 21700 was stupid option. They are huge. They only provide about 20% more MAH than an 18650! Stupid idea IMO. Should stuck with 26650 packs a wallop. Even if I got over JM's construction issues, after all it is hand made. It has but one 18650. The way I vape would be changing batteries every 20 minutes. That was my runner up though. One more issue Thor battery cap is much nicer but I can just use one on ThorII having 7 Thor's. Yes, I like them LOL. Vicious Ant is not hand made and it shows. He is American company with Fab in Philippines. Sadly, today hands can no longer match machines. You can say they put their heart into it but it is vastly surpassed by machines. They are even building 6,000 square foot homes in factories now! on site they just snap them together. I wanted an all green one but Manny warned me. Thank you Manny and all that have participated in this thread!

So here is what I got:

I like the Thor 2..... I Will wait for the black-SS frame....that purple is nice for those that like it......

Glad you got yours working again.....

Got a new VA coming..... With DNA 75c and 26650.... Stabwood

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I thought I had spoiled the thread. I am sorry. Ultroner coming from China of all places is real good quality. Only issue is 21700 was stupid option. They are huge. They only provide about 20% more MAH than an 18650! Stupid idea IMO. Should stuck with 26650 packs a wallop. Even if I got over JM's construction issues, after all it is hand made. It has but one 18650. The way I vape would be changing batteries every 20 minutes. That was my runner up though. One more issue Thor battery cap is much nicer but I can just use one on ThorII having 7 Thor's. Yes, I like them LOL. Vicious Ant is not hand made and it shows. He is American company with Fab in Philippines. Sadly, today hands can no longer match machines. You can say they put their heart into it but it is vastly surpassed by machines. They are even building 6,000 square foot homes in factories now! on site they just snap them together. I wanted an all green one but Manny warned me. Thank you Manny and all that have participated in this thread!

So here is what I got:


Looks like another beautiful Thor II you will be getting!
Congrats and Enjoy!
 

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Dang Manny if I knew there was a VA 75C with 26650 would have got that. Not on his website? Thank all of you folks. I feared I had ruined the thread. I apologize for my indecisiveness. VA and Ultroner/Asmoddus are best. Custom simply cannot match Million Dollar machines with woodwork. These are entire factories not one guy with a chisel. Even if they have cheap CNC router and lathe cannot compete. Sure, custom is more "special" but the overall quality is lacking when you see the factory ones. Manny, they are coming out with stainless on ThorII. Where do you get this insider information LOL. I do not mean to insult anyone though. I did say custom is more special. I have a mod that has apparently appreciated to $13,000. However to me it is not nearly as nice as VA/Asmodus. Plus USA repairs. Now I have 2 places that can repair them. Evolv(reluctantly) and Asmodus and VA. Manny, can you post pic of the VA 26650 75C? I think the purple looks good on darker colors. On Yellow or Green would look like a circus.

Manny, you were spot on with my coil joke. Although this says 80-90W but works fine at 28W. Kind of like not flooring my sports cars LOL. I just am not blowing clouds that is all. Coil can in fact wick it. No flooding. Does not leak so long as I do not exhale down the drip tip!

I had a question though. All my wood buttons lost their grain from juice on them. Sand it? What grit? Remember that small a piece easy to crack.

Thor/II is comparable to VA just less money due to being made in China. $300+ is a fortune in Chinese currency. Either same quality, mass produced. Philippines, China is a tossup. Neither exactly a G7 country. Although at this rate China may surpass USA but on street level still mostly a dump. Either made in good factory too and it shows. Often these factories have child labor on a dirt floor. Not the case here. I saw Ultroner and as I mentioned I would eat off their floor. Wood is cured in a class 1 clean room. You get custom may have a pubic hair in it! J/K. I personally would be hard pressed to buy another custom though at this point. I carefully compared the Bean Box to ThorII and for $100 more the quality was not there. Would have preferred the VA I do not know of. Pic, Manny?

Thanks to all. I am glad I did not deflate the mood and ruin thread.
 

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Dang Manny if I knew there was a VA 75C with 26650 would have got that. Not on his website? Thank all of you folks. I feared I had ruined the thread. I apologize for my indecisiveness. VA and Ultroner/Asmoddus are best. Custom simply cannot match Million Dollar machines with woodwork. These are entire factories not one guy with a chisel. Even if they have cheap CNC router and lathe cannot compete. Sure, custom is more "special" but the overall quality is lacking when you see the factory ones. Manny, they are coming out with stainless on ThorII. Where do you get this insider information LOL. I do not mean to insult anyone though. I did say custom is more special. I have a mod that has apparently appreciated to $13,000. However to me it is not nearly as nice as VA/Asmodus. Plus USA repairs. Now I have 2 places that can repair them. Evolv(reluctantly) and Asmodus and VA. Manny, can you post pic of the VA 26650 75C? I think the purple looks good on darker colors. On Yellow or Green would look like a circus.

Manny, you were spot on with my coil joke. Although this says 80-90W but works fine at 28W. Kind of like not flooring my sports cars LOL. I just am not blowing clouds that is all. Coil can in fact wick it. No flooding. Does not leak so long as I do not exhale down the drip tip!

I had a question though. All my wood buttons lost their grain from juice on them. Sand it? What grit? Remember that small a piece easy to crack.

Thor/II is comparable to VA just less money due to being made in China. $300+ is a fortune in Chinese currency. Either same quality, mass produced. Philippines, China is a tossup. Neither exactly a G7 country. Although at this rate China may surpass USA but on street level still mostly a dump. Either made in good factory too and it shows. Often these factories have child labor on a dirt floor. Not the case here. I saw Ultroner and as I mentioned I would eat off their floor. Wood is cured in a class 1 clean room. You get custom may have a pubic hair in it! J/K. I personally would be hard pressed to buy another custom though at this point. I carefully compared the Bean Box to ThorII and for $100 more the quality was not there. Would have preferred the VA I do not know of. Pic, Manny?

Thanks to all. I am glad I did not deflate the mood and ruin thread.
Well the button needs to be visible on the inside...... Sometimes if ejuice gets in Stabwood it gets sucked into the pores and rots the wood and it ruins the die inside (looses) color internally....

So go with like a 1500 or 1800 for like 5 minutes and look at how it looks under a couple of old layers..... If you see changes and colors appearing then go to 3200 for 20 minutes and finally 20 minutes with 4000.

Buttons I recommend metal if the mod is used continually .... The e-juice is a big enemy of wood....

So waxing and polishing is important to preserve/protect the wood.....

The VA is a Haze mod..... It's a Viscious Ant project with Jay Haze..... It's the only VA mod ever produced with a DNA 75c and limited to 50 in Stabwood on his Patron page..

he also produced 100 in Ultem with (2) color choices of Ultem......



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GorGon27

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Thank you on button Manny. The haze looks nice. It is larger than ThorII? The price difference is a lot VA just expensive. I do not think it is just China is the only difference inn price. Same kind of quality. VA just has more cachet. That's all. I know you like Asmodus as well too. I see he has wood buttons on there too? Wood buttons on all my daily drivers but buttons get ruined. Oh well. They do not lose color just turn solid color with no grain. It is okay with me but I will try sanding them. Must be careful though. Piece that small can crack sanding. Not much pressure I assume. I will try to get the Haze if it is not sold out. I do not like Ultem and don't even know exactly what it is besides plastic. I am pretty sure it is in "plastic" family of materials though. ThorII with acrylic coating is good for me because my tanks tend to leak. If you are getting 75C you must not vape at that high a wattage either but I am sure higher than my 28W. Mainly I cannot set off alarms. Already got fined $1,000 from FD. FD is 60 miles away so if there was an actual fire break out garden hose I guess. Hopefully that never happens. Everything in conduit, AFCI/GFCI gas limiters ETC. Safest I can be.
 

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Haze Stabwood all units sold. How do you get one Manny or you got it previously? Can you link somewhere that has it? I will certainly get it if I can!
 

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I see that vapor. The only difference at 28W is I am not making clouds like that. I cannot set off alarms in here. Otherwise it is fine. Does not leak. Shame about button. No big deal. At least they do not lose dye they just turn solid color without grain.

I never knocked over big Saguaro. I have respect for things that lived that long. I have some indoor Cacti here they are doing well under synthetic daylight.

Nice pictures. Is that the 850 or phone? If that is phone, that one does in fact have the best camera. There is much nicer than my dumpy neighborhood. Although my home there would be like 100 Million. It would be in suburbs in Wisconsin too. That is why I went here. First so we could have a farm and second live like Royalty. We are happy here. Just have to order everything online but everyone does anyways.

I wish I got the Haze. My Mod will be here Thursday.
 

MannyScoot

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Mine is in customs in the Philippines.... Will be here next week.....

I get mods that there 50 to 200 built.... That's why I like VA.... Limited numbers.... Mine is # 30 of 50



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GorGon27

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Asmodus labels real nice ones one of a kind, 1/1. The ThorII is #23 of 50 all sent to one store in UK. VA is mass produced too. Certain things they do limited runs. The Knight they may make as many as who knows. It is not a limited run and $750. I like the Haze but missed out. There are Thor/II not as nice maybe they make thousands too. Philippines is odd to hold up in customs. They don't usually. Once it was such a small box they forgot to check it. I called them and she checked it right then. UK spends 10 minutes in customs unless they lose it too. With my luck....
I hope you hit the jackpot!
 

GorGon27

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According to Mooch 21700 is better than 26650. All 26650 are Chinese. 21700 is currently Japan only. I actually did not overpay much. They are expensive. Tesla motors is switching from 18650's to 21700's. 21700 less MAH than 26650 but 26650 twice the size of 18650 for only less than 25% more MAH. I guess 21700 is actually more compact than 26650. Taller. I got the good ones too apparently. I feel better about that now at least.
 

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According to Mooch 21700 is better than 26650. All 26650 are Chinese. 21700 is currently Japan only. I actually did not overpay much. They are expensive. Tesla motors is switching from 18650's to 21700's. 21700 less MAH than 26650 but 26650 twice the size of 18650 for only less than 25% more MAH. I guess 21700 is actually more compact than 26650. Taller. I got the good ones too apparently. I feel better about that now at least.
I use these (dual) in the Boxer 2x700.... They hold well, half a day at 54 watts and still at 85 to 88%.....
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GorGon27

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Apparently they are only made in Japan right now but Samsung is Korean. That does not mean anything though. I would not use 15 or less Amp battery to get more MAH! only 25A or more on DNA75C. Those are lower MAH than mine but bet they last longer. What charger do you put those in? I find my LUC is fine all stretched out already. That is certainly longest that will fit in it though. Long protected one absolutely not. Luckily we do not use protected ones. The Folomov is much nicer but I am lazy and forgetful. You have to set the max charge limit every time. This is actually because it is "smarter". You cannot set it and forget it then put in a NIMH and charge at 2A . Kaboom LOL.

I am happy with my Mod I got. I would have gotten Haze as well but sold out. My ThorII luckily at least was one of 50 as well. It is 23. Does VA put the number on the Mod? Ultroner puts it on battery cover and COA. Accept I do not plan to use that battery cover. I know what I got no need to prove to anyone. Special was only $305 Vs. VA. VA just has more of a name for themselves. Both made by machines and mass produced. They are of similar excellent quality. I am only buying VA and Ultroner/Asmodus right now. Yes, they are tighter fit and finish but more importantly USA service facilities. Buy custom from wherever in the world good luck board goes bad. Evolv will only fix stabwood Mods at the owners own risk. these guys know how to fix them because they make them. They have both taken apart Mods for me without a scratch on finish. Evolv might hack it but I doubt it. It is just a disclaimer so they do not pay you. Evolv are no dummies. After al they make the whole thing basically(the chip). I honestly prefer the cosmetics to the exclusivity of the custom ones. These are all about cosmetics anyways. that is why we are buying them? Would you be sad button loses it's grain or just me? Acrylic coated is better for me because I leak(lol). no, I do not were a diaper(yet). Okay, too much information HAHA!
 

GorGon27

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28W has it's benefits. I am only using 1ML of juice per battery charge! Trust me I would go 70W but cannot in here. One day when really need FD they might not come. Although they got their Grand from me. You should not max out any Mod so I am told. These coils say 80-90W but 70W would be a big difference. Weird they are .4 and you said I needed .5? Although they are dual staggered spiral claptons. So take the power. I love the Crown IV now. Stick with Crown series. Their other tanks suck IMO. That battery is 3000MAH but 35A. Mine is 24A but marked 3,750MAH. Mooch tested it to be 3,700. Might as well get smaller Mod with 18650 then. I really will Miss the Bean Box but glad I got the ThorII in the end. It is simply much better built. Glue on Mod does not cut it for me for $450. Plus other anomalies. VA, Ultroner is a tossup. VA is fancier brand name though. Like Gucci Vs. Levi's.
 

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