SUBTANK WARS

[KeyserSoze]

To be honest it has more coudage, you can go higher in watts(im hitting it at 55w) and to me the flavor is better. Yes it will fit the v1 tanks but ive heard that the v1 does not have sufficient airflow to keep thw coil cool. But that might just be with the .3 ohm coil. Pm me with $3 to cover shipping and ill send you a coil ifn youd like. These coils just came in but im thinking of going temp control on my atlantis so i might not use these as much.

You're like, the coolest dude in the world. PM inbound.

 

[rudogg760]

You're like, the coolest dude in the world. PM inbound.

 

[mrmoodz]

http://www.smogdistribution.com/group-buys/zephyrus-updated-pre-order-round-1-ud/

Here are some details about the updated Youde Zephryus. I have a feeling Youde held back releasing the first version so they could finish the RBA. Looks damn nice.

 

[DRLyman]

FWIW, I just watched a review and you can use the Atlantis V2 coils in the Starre. That means you can use the TC coils in the Starre. Thought I'd throw that out there. I wouldn't do it, I've never had one dry hit with the Starre tanks. It is another option, though.

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[TheVapingDevil]

I've put nickel Atlantis coils in my starre and vaped it in temp mode. Really awesome vape

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[rudogg760]

I've put nickel Atlantis coils in my starre and vaped it in temp mode. Really awesome vape

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Ahhhh cant wait for my ipv4 to arrive, i just sold my ipv mini to fund it and im going through withdrawls. Mechs dont do it for me anymore, i want to try temp control so bad lol is it better flavor or clouds with the nickel coils?

 

[DRLyman]

I've put nickel Atlantis coils in my starre and vaped it in temp mode. Really awesome vape

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Now you have me wanting to try it, too. I'm betting it doesn't go through juice as fast with the Atlantis coil. I love Looper and can't find a good clone recipe for it. Tried a couple and they weren't very good. That Looper in the Starre gets a little expensive.

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[Boilermaker]

I have two Kanger Subtank minis and Atlantis V2. Running the Subs at 25 watts, a Nickel .12 coil on a VaporShark RDNA 40, flavor is good and so is vapor production. Only issue is they leak. On the Atlantis draw is to airy to me no matter where I set air flow. Tip is way to big, and damn it eats juice like crazy. Running at 40 watts, .3 coli I just can't get any flavor. I'm awaiting today a High Voltage Matrix (.6 coil) and a Freemax Starre (.5) coils. I'm going to be trying them on my new HexOhm V2 110 to see if maybe upping the voltage can help with flavor and cloud.

 

[UncleRJ]

I have been enjoying my 2.5 ml eGo One tank with the 0.50 ohm heads as it is the perfect size for my Sigelei 30 Watt Mini when I am out and about and want something at least a tad stealthy.

But not liking to have to continually purchase coil heads, I went ahead and fired out an order for a 5 pack of the new 0.50 ohm CLR rebuildable heads.

They are advertised as being built so it is easy to change the wick, just remove, dry burn and re-wick and when the time comes easy to replace the coils.

Also they say you can adjust the flow of liquid to the wick.

Same price as the standard toss them heads so for $15.20 shipped I bit.

But I have to tell you that for $17, the tank is a little wonder, bit of a PITA to fill but still nice flavor and vapor from the 0.50 ohm heads and easy to adjust air flow.

Not going to keep me from purchasing a Subtank Mini with extra RBA heads the next time someone has a great sale but still a nice little stealthy tank all the same.

 

[Dragger]

...i just orderd the ipv4 and am wondering if it is worth it to get the nickel coils for the atlantis now that i will have temp control. anybody deal with the nickel atlantis coils?

I finally solved my inability to sub ohm. I splurged on an SX Mini which did a great job with normal Kanthal coils but didn't try any of my sub stuff. Then I found some nickel coils for Nautilus and THE SUN IS SHINING! This is probably the best investment I've made in vaping. It's as large a change as when I went from cartos and egos to box mods with a tank.

Using temp control, I get a much more flavorful vape. I'm getting flavors I hadn't tasted before. The temperature is actually cooler than some of my normal tanks. As for clouds, I don't pay any attention to them so can't say whether I have more or less now.

I'm scratching my head over finding Atlantis nickel coils. I've seen many references to them here but I can't find them on any of the websites I use. I actually thought I was buying them when I got the Nautilus heads and only realized it when they arrived. Can someone provide a link?

 

[rudogg760]

I'm scratching my head over finding Atlantis nickel coils. I've seen many references to them here but I can't find them on any of the websites I use. I actually thought I was buying them when I got the Nautilus heads and only realized it when they arrived. Can someone provide a link?

this is the only place ive seen them for sale. i have not ordered them yet, i will be ordering later today.

http://www.vaporshark.com/accessories/aspire/aspire-atlantis-nickel-coils

 

[Dragger]

this is the only place ive seen them for sale. i have not ordered them yet, i will be ordering later today.

http://www.vaporshark.com/accessories/aspire/aspire-atlantis-nickel-coils

Somehow I missed them, thanks for the link. The Nautilus coils I got were Vaporshark also. Evidently they have a deal with Aspire to modify the coils. The place I ordered from (Covad) was a few bucks cheaper but I didn't see they had the Atlantis coils.

Same here, I'm ordering today. I'm really curious if the scalding hot vapes I was getting was a function of the tank or the coil. I'll soon find out.

 

[TrashCat]

FWIW, I just watched a review and you can use the Atlantis V2 coils in the Starre. That means you can use the TC coils in the Starre. Thought I'd throw that out there. I wouldn't do it, I've never had one dry hit with the Starre tanks. It is another option, though.

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Aaaargggg! Now I'm so tempted to get the Starre! I'm so confused... Every time I decide on a tank, some other fact comes to light and makes me change my mind !

I think I'm going to have to put this choice onto a spreadsheet

 

[TheVapingDevil]

this is the only place ive seen them for sale. i have not ordered them yet, i will be ordering later today.

http://www.vaporshark.com/accessories/aspire/aspire-atlantis-nickel-coils

That's where I got mine. I can say bigger clouds, better flavor, lower juice consumption (this is only if you can keep the strong urge to chain vape it constantly controlled )and the quality of a temp controlled vape is outstanding

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[DRLyman]

Aaaargggg! Now I'm so tempted to get the Starre! I'm so confused... Every time I decide on a tank, some other fact comes to light and makes me change my mind !

I think I'm going to have to put this choice onto a spreadsheet

LOL yeah, there are a lot of choices out there right now. At least they aren't that expensive. Competition is keeping the prices below $30.

 

[madmonkey]

I'll be honest...I only read the first and last page of this but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in here since I drop so much loose change everywhere else

I love my Subtank mini with my rebuilt OCC heads at 25 to 35 watts. It is my perfect daily driver along with my Kayfun. Little more vapor, little less flavor than the Kayfun...they yin/yang each other well as my ADV's for work...I don't use the RDA deck as my friend's was broke and I gave him mine since I just rebuilt the heads

I also used his Arctic tank as a thank you for a couple days and I love that thing at 60-70 watts. I was honestly shocked and amazed at how well that thing performed for a clearomizer, sub ohm or otherwise. Goes threw juice like there's a hole in the thing draining it but it seems any good tank does

(side bar sage piece of life advice...if you're going to quit/loose a job without another one make sure you put your right phone number on your resume...one wrong digit can result in lack of interest because no one can get ahold of you...if I hadn't had a couple people be nice enough to email saying they couldn't call I might still be unemployed...and then I would have to quit vaping because I couldn't buy juice....see how I tied it all together and made that vape related? Im smrt )

Anyways....once the bills are caught up this week, if there's anything left over I am definitely getting two Arctic tanks because it seems they don't offer spare glass and I always crack my tanks at work from something colliding with my pocket...first world problems or having a labor job, I know I know

Also...I am looking forward to getting some of those Nickel coils for my mini from vaporshark to see how they do compared to my prebuilt coils....As one of the people waiting for a PVA 40 and the newest version (version 4) of the DNA 40D chip I am looking forward to seeing what proper temperature limiting can do instead of tricking my current one into working.

I also am interested in the Delta II and the Atlantis 2, but I am waiting on the Atlantis 2 till it's been out a bit longer with the new cotton coils. I'll read threw this eventually and get the skinny but it seems like from what I've read so far everyone agrees that the Kanger Sub tank is a good middle of the road series of tanks, not the best, not the worst, but still a good starter place. I am wondering if the Atlantis 2 will pull Aspire ahead of Kanger again like the Nautilus did verses the Aerotank...at least that's what it felt like. Any one else feel that way?

 

[madmonkey]

One other quick thing ::: pulls out the worn out soap box and wipes the dust off:::: for the new vapor interested in looking into or trying a subohm style tank.....

@starrelabelletxlady is completely right about not having to max out the watts on one of these coils. That's another reason why I recommend the Kangers even though they're not the best or the worst...there the middle and they work good and they're the only one that makes stock 1+plus ohm coils I am aware of (if I have missed other factory made coils out please point them out to me so I can be corrected and would greatly appreciate the info and thank you all in advance...I can admit when I don't know something for sure or if I am wrong )

You can run the 1.2 ohm coil at low wattage and it won't be that hot, at least I didn't think it was when I tried it and use the single or dual airflow hole option and make it a +ohm clearomizer...or you can RDA a + ohm coil just like I do in my Kayfuns or you can rebuild the OCC heads or RDA to just about anything you want...it's an easy and versatile tank to work with.

A lot of the current Mod's and Clearo's and drippers on the market today are based on feedback from vapors modifying the previous generation of gear and these tanks are no different. Like I said, I've only gotten ahold of a few Sub Ohm tanks but the Kanger's just seem the easiest to personalize and mess with and they sell spare glass cheap enough. Considering I am on my second glass tank after only three months it's nice to be able to buy the spare parts.

These sub ohm tanks are really manufacturers catering to the minority of the vaping population. Honestly, most of the vaping public still vapes on "cig-a-likes" with cartomizers or eGo/penstyles with basic clearos and they are more than content with that and rarely move on. But thanks to the advances in high powered, regulated devices in the recent months it is now safer and easier to vape with sub ohm coils and these tanks are a safer way to introduce the concept to the masses with less risk of something going wrong thanks to built in protections of the mod's chipsets. That being said, vaping at 50 watts if you've never gone above 5-10, or even 25 watts for that matter can take some getting used to and make you choke the first time easily. It's simply not for everyone

You don't need 50-60 watts to have a good vape, we didn't before and we don't now....by the same token, it's really nice to have it premade in a package ready to use...But you need the right power for the right coil. You don't need to crank the wattage on the .5 and higher ohm coils necessarily to have a good vape. A .5 setup on a mech only is putting out 25-32 volts on a fresh battery after voltage drop and that goes down before you swap the battery out usually...that's were the recommendation comes from for using them. Before the sub tanks, some of my .6-.76 dripper builds I loved at around 20-23 watts on my DNA 30 and by the same token I've got some .5 ohm single coil builds that I crack up to 75 watts to get good performance out of. I still use my old I-go L with a 1 to 1.2 ohm coil for testing flavors on a mech and that's only 10-13 watts.

Vaping is all about what you like, it's a personal choice and YMMV, the recommendations are guidelines....just with super low sub ohm coils, because of how little resistance they have you need the high wattage to heat up the coil at all and get any kind of decent performance from them. I've turned my DNA 40 down to under 7 watts to see how the vape would be as my first vape setup only put out a super powerful 6.5 watts and in the beginning I thought that was more than enough power and the vapor those .5 coils put out was horrible. It was like breathing stale air. But I ran the 1.2 ohm coil at 12-13 watts to compare it to my Kayfun build and the Kayfun won of corse, but I think it would be pretty satisfactory for someone that wanted something closer to a Kayfun like experience vapor wise but isn't comfortable enough or ready to take the first steps into rebuilding.

I can never say enough that vaping is all about what work's best for your personal taste...a year ago I wouldn't go below .6 ...it was too much for me...now I am running .24 ohm coils at 50-75 watts on average. I still prefer a cooler vape all about flavor, but I am learning that warmer vapes can bring out complexities in flavors that the lower temps I wouldn't notice and vice versa as long as I have the airflow and wick to match it and not just fry my juice.

If a .5 ohm coil at 15 watts is your cup o' tea than more power to yah (or less in this case.) It's all about happy and safe vaping. For a long time 15-20 watts was considered "high power" vaping....just because we can blow way past that these days doesn't mean it makes it any less of a good vape than it used to be. We just got more options to make or vaping eyes spin and vaping wallets chringe

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[ColeGirl1]

Thanks for that post, @madmonkey. This exact issue has been on my mind lately. I like my istick50 with a clearo and 0.5 or 1.8 coil run at between 7 and 11 watts. One of my clearos is a subtank, but the rest aren't.

 

[iConVape]

Aspire Atlantis v1 or v2 with the iCV custom 5ml topcap.

 

[eblazemc]

Ok ok,
Here's how I rank my sub ohm tanks...
1.HIGH VOLTAGE TANK
2.HERKALES
3.MATRIX
4.ARCTIC
Before you guys install ur coils, make sure u saturate them, be patient!!! Clean the tank,scrub it, soak the coil, start low watts, I don't suggest using a mech mod on this tanks.... To get the full benefit...
The HIGH VOLTAGE TANK, HAS the most airflow of them all!! The flavor is exceptional, the vapor is dense... The coil heads are .3 on my sig 150 vaping at 60 watts WOW
BIGBOYVAPER

HOW DOES THE 'HIGH VOLTAGE' TANK COMPARE TO THE ATLANTIS MEGA??
HOW IS IT IN REGARD TO ACTUAL HIGH VOLTAGE VAPING?
HOW IS IT WITH JUICE CONSUMPTION (I'm hearing so much about the Starre/Magnus drinking the juice up like crazy)

 

[Clay Elliott]

I have a question about the High Voltage Sub-Ohm Tank, if anybody has one are they having issues with dry hits? I'm only vaping it at like 60 watts and everytime I re-fill and let it sit for several minutes, like 10-15, and try to vape it and get a dry hit just about every other puff. WTH is going on with it?

 

[Mykline]

I have a question about the High Voltage Sub-Ohm Tank, if anybody has one are they having issues with dry hits? I'm only vaping it at like 60 watts and everytime I re-fill and let it sit for several minutes, like 10-15, and try to vape it and get a dry hit just about every other puff. WTH is going on with it?

Maybe drop the wattage down some.

 

[Clay Elliott]

Maybe drop the wattage down some.

I attempted that and still no dice. I just talked to someone and apparently the tank has an adjustable chimney. I am going to try this and see what happens.

 

[mrmoodz]

What ohm resistance coil are you using?

 

[Barbara E.]

I have a SubTank (full-size) and now an Innokin iSub (just got that today). I have to say that I'm very impressed by the iSub.

Comparing it side-by-side, it has better airflow than the SubTank. And my juice taste great at 30W whereas it tastes burnt at that same setting with the SubTank. I don't like the fact that I can't change the drip tip on the iSub but I really like the fact that the 510 connection is actually the coil. Not only do I not have to worry about the tank threads wearing out but the coil actually reads as '0.5 ohms'. My 0.5 ohm coils on the SubTank actually read at 0.7 on my device.

I'm not at all worried about it being plastic vs. glass. I do like hot cinnamon on occasion but I would never use it in a sub-ohm tank (since it would probably blow my head apart ). My eliquids with just a bit of hot cinnamon do fine in the iSub. And I like the pretty colors it comes in.

Given its more-than-reasonable price, it's a no-brainer. I think Innokin really hit a home run this time.

Edited to add - one major caveat might be the threading wearing out on the plastic tank. You have to unscrew the plastic from the metal base to fill it (so you'll be doing it fairly often) and I can see that wearing out. On the other hand, it's 'German Made P.C. (whatever that means) so maybe it'll last longer.

 

[judgewiz]

Well Once again I spent money on a new sub-ohm tank. I purchased the Beyond Vape Silo Beast. The top fill really has me intrigued along with the use of Atlantis/Atlantis 2 coils. I just have to see what it can do plus I like how it looks.

 

[DRLyman]

Well Once again I spent money on a new sub-ohm tank. I purchased the Beyond Vape Silo Beast. The top fill really has me intrigued along with the use of Atlantis/Atlantis 2 coils. I just have to see what it can do plus I like how it looks.

That sucked me in, too. Just shipped today and also got the mini part for it. And I said I wasn't getting any more of these.

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[rudogg760]

That sucked me in, too. Just shipped today and also got the mini part for it. And I said I wasn't getting any more of these.

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Let me know how that is. Ive been thinking of getting that one, i like that i can use atlantis coils so i can use the nickel coils. Cant wait to get my temp mod. If i get this tank it will have to be the last one.

 

[DRLyman]

Let me know how that is. Ive been thinking of getting that one, i like that i can use atlantis coils so i can use the nickel coils. Cant wait to get my temp mod. If i get this tank it will have to be the last one.

Will definitely let you know. It shipped today, but the tracking isn't updating yet so maybe they just printed the label and it will go out tomorrow. I said I was done buying tanks, but this one looked too good to pass up. The reviews I've seen were very good.

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[judgewiz]

Same thing with me, They said it shipped today but it not registering on the USPS site. I thought I was done with buying tanks but once again they got me. I haven't did the temp control yet but at least I will have the option when I do go that route

 

[rudogg760]

I wish i could just get the smaller tank. I dont want the big one, with the top fill i dont mind the smaller tank, i just dont want to have to pay extra for the tank i want.

 

[judgewiz]

I think I will wait and see how this tank drinks juice before I try the 2.5 ml size

 

[rudogg760]

ive been wanting the zephyrus but im kinda burnt out on buying tanks, i like my v2 atlantis and the silo beast will probably be my last tank purchase for a while n im only getting it over the zephyrus because it uses the atlantis coils. plus it looks sweet

 

[WARCHOP37]

I'll let you guys know how the Zephyrus performs... got it on pre-order but waiting for it to come in.

 

[judgewiz]

I have gotten the same way, I have tried out so many tanks in the last 6 months that I just shake my Head. Atlantis, COV Typhoon, Freemax Starre, Vapston Magamus, and the High Voltage Matrix. I think this is going to be my last test for a while. I always seem to go back to my Kanger subtank Mini. I just recently sold off a lot of my excess supplies and I just want to relax and keep things simple and see how things shake out.

 

[rudogg760]

I have gotten the same way, I have tried out so many tanks in the last 6 months that I just shake my Head. Atlantis, COV Typhoon, Freemax Starre, Vapston Magamus, and the High Voltage Matrix. I think this is going to be my last test for a while. I always seem to go back to my Kanger subtank Mini. I just recently sold off a lot of my excess supplies and I just want to relax and keep things simple and see how things shake out.

Yea ive had the arctic, herakles, subtank, isub, atlantis v2 and ive sold em all except the atlantis, and i will end up selling that as well when i get the silo beast.

 

[madmonkey]

I have gotten the same way, I have tried out so many tanks in the last 6 months that I just shake my Head. Atlantis, COV Typhoon, Freemax Starre, Vapston Magamus, and the High Voltage Matrix. I think this is going to be my last test for a while. I always seem to go back to my Kanger subtank Mini. I just recently sold off a lot of my excess supplies and I just want to relax and keep things simple and see how things shake out.

There's nothing wrong with sticking with what you like and keeping it simple IMHO...I think things are starting to come out too fast. I always tell my friends that "if it came out this month, buy it next month so the bugs are worked out of it" because it seems like they release these tanks and use us as the quality control testers. I still use my super short 20 mm cartos in a 15 mm .9 ml tank on a 650 mah ego battery from time to time...it might not give me the vape of a subohm tank but it's perfect for stealth vaping at the movies and fancy events I can't sneak away from I carry around at least two setups daily with spare batteries and liquid and coils in my backpack as well as an emergency ego kit if all else fails.....

How does this all tie into the subtank wars? Well I am filling my Subtank Mini and charging my rDNA40 batteries for work tomorrow as I write this...just because I like old stuff doesn't mean it doesn't collect dust six days a week if not more

Subtanks are awesome...but sometimes they're just too much much and you need to get back to the basics

 

[rudogg760]

dog gamnit. i broke down and ordered the silo beast. they didnt have the shorty tank in stock which sucks. if anybody wants to buy an atlantis V2 with 1 .5 coil and the .5 mil extension that i con vape was selling. pay pal me $30 shipped. i just ordered the drip tip adaptor and that will come with it when i recieve it. i paid $40 for the tank and $20 for the extension.

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Aspire Atlantis v1 or v2 with the iCV custom 5ml topcap.

 

[twisted]

The V2 Scion is much better than the original. Besides having coils that go down to .15 ohm they cleaned up the machining oops issues they had in the original. This is my second favorite right now.

My favorite is the Freemax Starre. This one has insane airflow! Add to that the dual vertical coils at .25 ohm's.. Yeah I ditched my Kanger and Aspire subs after a week on this one. Plus the price is a steal. And cloud production. This thing chucks clouds big time!

I have the maganus same thing as the star. It has amazing airflow. The cloud and flavor production is almost as good as a rda. And best of all it is fairly cheap.

 

[rudogg760]

just my frickin luck, not even 30 min after placing my order for the silo beast, i get an email from vaperroyalty saying the zephyrus is in stock and i look at grimm greens channel and he has a first impressions uuuughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[VenomousMofo]

For those looking for the UD Zephyrus sub ohm, vape royalty just got them in stock. Ordered mine 10 mins ago.

 

[rudogg760]

So when i got the email that the zephyrus was in stock i said ef it and ordered one even tho i just ordered the silo beast. It came in already i have about 1 tank through it and i can say i hate it, i am so disappointed. You would think with how big the chimney and air holes on the base is it would be free flowing and to me it was quite restrictive and the tank would get really hot. So hot there was condensation from the juice inside the tank. I was on my dimitri because right now i do not have a regulated device. I will give it one more try when i get my geeco zero temp mod on monday but i dont have hope it will be better, i hope the silo beast doesnt let me down. Only one ive enjoyed are the isub and the atlantis v2 with the .5 ohm coil

Ps. I could not for the life of me take the top off to top fill. I had to get pliers and twist it

 

[twisted]

Dam that sucks, all I have heard is good things about the beast.

 

[rudogg760]

Dam that sucks, all I have heard is good things about the beast.

To be clear this is for the Zephyrus. But you might want to take my review with a grain of salt. I hated the arctic, herakles for being too hot and the subtank for spitback. My favorite tank is the goliath but its an rta. I like the atlantis v2 but only with the .5 coil im looking forward to trying it with the nickel coils on monday.

 

[twisted]

Oh ok must have misunderstood you

 

[twisted]

Guess I missed the pics too. Lol

 

[rudogg760]

Im getting the silo beast in on tuesday. I have high hopes, ill most likely just use the nickel coils on it.

 

[twisted]

Yea i have heard alot of good about the beast. Thinking about trying it out. But right now been using the maganus I picked up a week and a half ago and have been loving it.

 

[rudogg760]

Yea i have heard alot of good about the beast. Thinking about trying it out. But right now been using the maganus I picked up a week and a half ago and have been loving it.

I should just be happy with my goliath and atlantis but i cant seem to stop wanting to try new tanks. Haha

 

[twisted]

It's a never ending battle. Every time I go to a shop or watch a you tube video I find something else I want. Thought vaping would save money.lol