Become a Patron!

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
Still this has been my favorite thread on VU so far, granted haven't been here long, but this has been my best source of entertainment thus far.
Thank you assholo!
Idk, I've been here since the beginning. I've seen some entertaining ones. But this one is up there.
I liked a few in the U MAD Bro? Sub as well.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
Idk, I've been here since the beginning. I've seen some entertaining ones. But this one is up there.
I liked a few in the U MAD Bro? Sub as well.
Hahaha, I've seen a few, I think one of them I actually started. Honestly I try and avoid the argument shit, unless its something that can actually hurt someone. I don't have an 'off' switch.
hence the lifetime ban from douchebagville.
 

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
Hahaha, I've seen a few, I think one of them I actually started. Honestly I try and avoid the argument shit, unless its something that can actually hurt someone. I don't have an 'off' switch.
hence the lifetime ban from douchebagville.
I've knowingly started two I think. One was ECF filtering vaperjoe and vapingunderground
 

gracechen

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Unlisted Vendor
i saw a interesting claim frm IPV 3 LI.
they says:
When using kanthal wire the IPV3-Li can handle atomizers with resistance levels between 0.1ohms and 3.0ohms, when using nickel wire for temperature control its range is between 0.12ohms and 1.0ohms.

all customers mistake it can temperature control with kanthal.
but what this item can do is only temp control nickel.

better read these word from IPV 3 LI twice. and you will find the truth.

for us, we did able to tempature control on kanthal and even normal wire.
 

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
Why not have the taste learning thing simply say "Getting Started" and then spend a little bit of time making an easy/smooth flowing detailed manual.

You do realize this is a Chinese product right? Lmfao!
 

st0nedpenguin

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
i saw a interesting claim frm IPV 3 LI.
they says:
When using kanthal wire the IPV3-Li can handle atomizers with resistance levels between 0.1ohms and 3.0ohms, when using nickel wire for temperature control its range is between 0.12ohms and 1.0ohms.

all customers mistake it can temperature control with kanthal.
but what this item can do is only temp control nickel.

better read these word from IPV 3 LI twice. and you will find the truth.

for us, we did able to tempature control on kanthal and even normal wire.

Nobody thinks the IPV3 Li does temp control with kanthal because P4U never claimed it can.
 

gracechen

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Unlisted Vendor
the wire use on MT3 or ce4, the regular wire
 

gracechen

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Unlisted Vendor

Maverik_X

Deez Nutz
VU Donator
Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
errm how about "SETUP TASTE" or "SETUP TEMP CONTROL" or you could go all madonna and say "LIKE A VIRGIN"

we hope user can understand the word better. i think " setup taste" is the best way to explain to user.
You can send me my reward anytime ;) FYI before releasing a manual have a english born translator proof it before you print it.
 
Last edited:

Maverik_X

Deez Nutz
VU Donator
Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
What is "normal wire?"
normal-49va2l.jpg
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
Having brain pain
 

HDMontana

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years

Mykline

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
BIG NEWS:

IJOY Asolo big giveaway coming at 25th, June. we will prepare 20sets for this give-away.

at this period, anyone "like" this page will win a chance to win a FREE Asolo new generation temperature control mod.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shenzhen-IJOY-technology-coltd/622681494414288

thank you for all the support.

IJOY TEAM
Shared your page in Facebook to all my friends and public. Would enjoy receiving a mod of yours.
If you do need someone to review your manual on this mod I would be more then happy to do it for you. I have been a technical writer for over 35 years.
 

RebelGolfer72

Guilty as charged
VU Donator
Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
ECF Refugee
It was told by this "marketer" he would. Then he wouldn't. Not to mention he said he's not going to continue reviewing many of these "ridiculously high wattage devices" out of china after the ipv 3 (I think maybe he made that statement after the Sigelei)
Also, can you imagine what's in queue for him right now? There's what, 9 days left before it's released......
Supposedly he won't review anything over 100w.... But with Evolv DNA200 around the corner, I'm sure he will make the exception
 

RebelGolfer72

Guilty as charged
VU Donator
Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
ECF Refugee
i saw a interesting claim frm IPV 3 LI.
they says:
When using kanthal wire the IPV3-Li can handle atomizers with resistance levels between 0.1ohms and 3.0ohms, when using nickel wire for temperature control its range is between 0.12ohms and 1.0ohms.

all customers mistake it can temperature control with kanthal.
but what this item can do is only temp control nickel.

better read these word from IPV 3 LI twice. and you will find the truth.

for us, we did able to tempature control on kanthal and even normal wire.
The Asolo is a 200w board, correct? What is the input power requirements? (I.e how many batteries in series needed for this?)
 

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
Supposedly he won't review anything over 100w.... But with Evolv DNA200 around the corner, I'm sure he will make the exception
Yes. He is an Evolv fanboy for sure!
In all seriousness, who needs 200w?! I remember when the ipv3 came out ready x wick was catching ready x wick on fire, wet, at 150w in a few seconds... Does someone really vape <150w on the regular? Not just to play around, or show off but consistently and enjoys it?
 

RebelGolfer72

Guilty as charged
VU Donator
Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
ECF Refugee
Yes. He is an Evolv fanboy for sure!
In all seriousness, who needs 200w?! I remember when the ipv3 came out ready x wick was catching ready x wick on fire, wet, at 150w in a few seconds... Does someone really vape <150w on the regular? Not just to play around, or show off but consistently and enjoys it?

My thoughts, and this is just me, if someone normally vapes a single coil at 50w, a dual coil setup would take 100, add in some extra headroom to play with, room for boost modes, and I could see 150w just to get a heavier coil up to temp fast as a burst, then feed like 30-50w to maintain that heat.

In other words, if you think of it in terms of how fast it heats the coil instead of how hot it can get it, it does make a little more sense, but not totally necessary. (If that makes sense). Think of it like a car... A Prius or a Smart Car can hold 55mph on the highway all day, just like a Porsche can do so... With the speed limit fixed, the Porsche will get you to 55 a hell of a lot quicker going uphill than a Prius will.
 

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
My thoughts, and this is just me, if someone normally vapes a single coil at 50w, a dual coil setup would take 100, add in some extra headroom to play with, room for boost modes, and I could see 150w just to get a heavier coil up to temp fast as a burst, then feed like 30-50w to maintain that heat.

In other words, if you think of it in terms of how fast it heats the coil instead of how hot it can get it, it does make a little more sense, but not totally necessary. (If that makes sense). Think of it like a car... A Prius or a Smart Car can hold 55mph on the highway all day, just like a Porsche can do so... With the speed limit fixed, the Porsche will get you to 55 a hell of a lot quicker going uphill than a Prius will.
I agree 150w to get you were you want to to then as far as temperature control, then decrease wattage to where you want to go. For example 20awg kanthal takes about 12 wraps dual coil for 0.2ohm that's a lot of wire to heat up. But I don't see 200w necessary. Just my opinion
 

gracechen

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Unlisted Vendor
Yes. He is an Evolv fanboy for sure!
In all seriousness, who needs 200w?! I remember when the ipv3 came out ready x wick was catching ready x wick on fire, wet, at 150w in a few seconds... Does someone really vape <150w on the regular? Not just to play around, or show off but consistently and enjoys it?
phil said to me he won't do review on any device more than 100w,
just like evolv state they won't do 200w, but they just do it.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
They sure do it. I hope they do it well.
 

UncleRJ

Will write reviews for Beer!
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
ECF Refugee
Reviewer
Moderator
phil said to me he won't do review on any device more than 100w,
just like evolv state they won't do 200w, but they just do it.

Ask Phil about his review of the Legal Vape 4000.

I am pretty sure that was more than 100 watts.


I am sure you can find others to review it even if Phil won't.
 

TwitchVaperMVG

Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
The thought behind wattages as high as 200W is future-proofing and mass appeal. You don't have to use it at 200W, but if you do vape that hot, then you'll be able to. Using wire with a really high heat capacity might require 200W. Maybe you like to use 18AWG and vape quad coils. 50W per coil for 18AWG seems feasible to me if you like that kind of vape. Even with the 22AWG dual-coil builds I normally do, I vape between 60W and 100W. Add 2 more coils to that, and I'd need between 120W and 200W to get the same heat.

It was the same argument when 50W mods started getting mass-produced. "Why would you ever need 50W!?" And now we have cloud-chaser tanks that work up to 100W, maybe a little bit more...and you don't even need to build a coil.

It may seem excessive now, but who knows? Maybe in 12 months, we'll have premade quad-coil heads that require higher power. If you're going to release a DNA+10W every year, why NOT go for broke and make 200W an option? Then just release firmware upgrades and ride it out long-term. Then you have a board literally anybody can use...low wattage, high wattage, low resistance, kanthal, nickel, temp control...I mean, is there anybody out there right now that legitimately thinks that they can't vape the way that they want on a DNA200? I would genuinely like to hear from them if there is such a person out there.
 

UncleRJ

Will write reviews for Beer!
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
ECF Refugee
Reviewer
Moderator
I am still convinced that eventually there will be toppers with a new technology that will require more power to operate then their predecessors.
 

CurlyxCracker

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
The thought behind wattages as high as 200W is future-proofing and mass appeal. You don't have to use it at 200W, but if you do vape that hot, then you'll be able to. Using wire with a really high heat capacity might require 200W. Maybe you like to use 18AWG and vape quad coils. 50W per coil for 18AWG seems feasible to me if you like that kind of vape. Even with the 22AWG dual-coil builds I normally do, I vape between 60W and 100W. Add 2 more coils to that, and I'd need between 120W and 200W to get the same heat.

It was the same argument when 50W mods started getting mass-produced. "Why would you ever need 50W!?" And now we have cloud-chaser tanks that work up to 100W, maybe a little bit more...and you don't even need to build a coil.

It may seem excessive now, but who knows? Maybe in 12 months, we'll have premade quad-coil heads that require higher power. If you're going to release a DNA+10W every year, why NOT go for broke and make 200W an option? Then just release firmware upgrades and ride it out long-term. Then you have a board literally anybody can use...low wattage, high wattage, low resistance, kanthal, nickel, temp control...I mean, is there anybody out there right now that legitimately thinks that they can't vape the way that they want on a DNA200? I would genuinely like to hear from them if there is such a person out there.
Can you tell me an rda that can fit 4 strands of 18awg through a post hole AND provide adequate airflow to support the heat generated from it?
That aside, there will never be a "future proof" mod made at the current rate of technical development...
There will always be something better being released... The DNA 20 was revolutionary at its time. Temperature control is in now. In 6 months from now, regulations permitting, it'll be something else that's "the future of vaping"
And at some point we are limited buy battery tech and safely which is why Phil made the statement about not reviewing above 100w.
 

TwitchVaperMVG

Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Can you tell me an rda that can fit 4 strands of 18awg through a post hole AND provide adequate airflow to support the heat generated from it?
That aside, there will never be a "future proof" mod made at the current rate of technical development...
There will always be something better being released... The DNA 20 was revolutionary at its time. Temperature control is in now. In 6 months from now, regulations permitting, it'll be something else that's "the future of vaping"
And at some point we are limited buy battery tech and safely which is why Phil made the statement about not reviewing above 100w.

Not off the top of my head, but I've seen people build some crazy shit. You could probably do it on a Doge if you really wanted to. The point is, the option is there. As long as I can get 100W, I'm happy. That doesn't mean I'm going to pass on a 200W mod if it has other things going for it too.

And sure, taken literally, there is no "future-proofing." But that's just splitting hairs. Maybe they should call it "Foreseeable-Future-Proofing." Putting 8GB GDDR5 in the PS4 was "future-proofing." Using CAT6 cables for home networking is "future-proofing." Will it be adequate 10 years from now? Probably not. Is it more than anyone needs for the foreseeable future? Definitely.

Future-resistant....yeah, that sounds much better, actually. :)

And from what I've seen from Evolv, plus what I know about the DNA200, they always seem to make safety top-priority. I'm not worried about putting a Sigelei 150W 3 inches from my eyeballs (although maybe I should be?). So I'm definitely not concerned about the DNA200 when it comes to safety. I'll be using it at 60W-100W anyway.
 

RebelGolfer72

Guilty as charged
VU Donator
Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
ECF Refugee
yes, it is 200w, will need 2 batteries
That scares me a bit.
If the mod is 90% efficient, that means to deliver 200w, it will need to draw 220w from the batteries.
At nominal battery voltage of 3.7v/battery (7.4v combined), each battery will be pulling right at 30A/battery.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
Scares me a whole lots
 

Fringe

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
I do like the password protection, I wish all my VV/VW had that, and a GPS locator for when I can't find them
d99a664601f551b8eccff67ddd8e9b56.gif
 

st0nedpenguin

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
If you're going to release a DNA+10W every year, why NOT go for broke and make 200W an option?

Because the company that prides themselves on safe and sensible vaping are releasing a device that sets wicks on fire in an instant and uses a battery tech that violently explodes into flames when it fails.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
o_Oo_OThe lipo arargument....really?
my Rc cars, rc helicopter, 2 dna30 mods, innokin mods, and a large dc motor made to haul and lift up to 650 pounds all use lipos and not a Single problem .
 

TwitchVaperMVG

Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Because the company that prides themselves on safe and sensible vaping are releasing a device that sets wicks on fire in an instant and uses a battery tech that violently explodes into flames when it fails.

They do seem to be doing something unexpected, but that's probably the result of people screaming that 40W isn't enough. You can set a wick on fire with pretty much anything if you really wanted to; there has to be at least an ounce of common sense involved when it comes to vaping, so that's not exclusive to this board.

As for the battery, that's why there's limitations incorporated into the board. And again, you get can battery failure with any battery, even the LiPO in your phone. Plenty of mods nowadays use LiPO without issue. I trust that, out of anyone, Evolv has it covered.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'm glad they went this direction. Finally an Evolv board that will make its way into my daily rotation. I had a hard time justifying the price of the DNA40 for something I would really only use on the rare occasions that I wanted to use nickel single-coils.
 

Fringe

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Member For 5 Years
o_Oo_OThe lipo arargument....really?
my Rc cars, rc helicopter, 2 dna30 mods, innokin mods, and a large dc motor made to haul and lift up to 650 pounds all use lipos and not a Single problem .
And they are fun to stab with a knife
facepalm.gif


gRXv3fM.gif
 

st0nedpenguin

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
o_Oo_OThe lipo arargument....really?
my Rc cars, rc helicopter, 2 dna30 mods, innokin mods, and a large dc motor made to haul and lift up to 650 pounds all use lipos and not a Single problem .

It only takes the one failure to ruin your day.

And if a battery does fail inches from my face, I'd rather it's not one that bursts into flames.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
And they are fun to stab with a knife
facepalm.gif


gRXv3fM.gif
Well, i reckon that could be fun at kids birthday parties while dresses as Bozo the clown....or at funerals.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
It only takes the one failure to ruin your day.

And if a battery does fail inches from my face, I'd rather it's not one that bursts into flames.
Well, by that logic ANY battery CAN fail if you mistreat it or push it too hard. all youre doing is choosing an equally disastrous endgame just a different type of disaster.
Then again I like roasted marshmallows allows
 

VU Sponsors

Top