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GraceChen: it's time my dear girl to get this in the open. We wish to see the mod and use it,test it, and critique it. Please PM me when it is ready to go. I am a firm believer in innovation, but as you might of guessed, we are a rather hardcore set of vapers who will take the mods abilities to the limits.

Let us know, Grace.
 

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Don't think so, don't care. MS just bought out Notch. Oooh, Facebook bought up Oculus. Psh, whatevs..
Just looked it up. I'm actually pretty excited for it. Oculus is owned by Facebook but has confirmed a partnership with Microsoft for some xbox one games.
On that same note Microsoft also announced Hololens which is very similar to the Oculus but from what I can tell is more Windows 10 oriented... Either way can't wait to see how they play out.
Derailed thread but got me excited for VR again. Lol
 

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thank you all the support, no matter good or bad, thank you

No, you are a excellent saleswoman.

You have a 450+ comment (10 page as of now) thread of interested Vapers (they poke fun but they would have left if they weren't interested in your technology)

We are patiently awaiting the reviews, the release, and the outcome.
 

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And I doubt it has anything to do with the photoshopped photo of the beautiful girl blowing clouds in the avatar.
Girl in photo is pretty hot
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More importantly, she managed to keep this thread going for this long without giving *any* information of any value whatsoever - just marketing rah-rah.

Genius!
There was/is a certain degree of entertainment value.
Gotta give credit where its due.

And ill admit I'm interested to see the endgame
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If it does work, I just want to know what the catch is...

My feeling is that the device does feature some kind of scheme to prevent dry-hits - perhaps a hit counter that limits the power after a set number of hits, perhaps even with some kind of user feedback to adjust the number of hits on the fly, that sort of thing - that allows IJoy to claim they have temperature control that works with Kanthal, by stretching the definition of temperature control a bit. But when the long-awaited marvel does come out eventually, it'll turn out to be rather more underwhelming than expected.

I've been around marketdroids for a long time, and when they try to work up interest that much for that long without throwing any bit of actual information, the product usually isn't that exciting in the end. And the more interest they generate, the greater the disappointment. Just look at what happened with the Segway, or with the Duke Nukem Forever video game...

At this point, I reckon the Asolo will have to be exceptionally innovative to live up to the hype.
 

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True but this has been an entertaining thread with no real facts
 

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Remember the 2nd Stingray mech with the thick 2 tone engraving at the button end?

The clone came out a full month and a half before the legit hit the market.
And the switch that worked smoother than original? Rumor was that they were outsourcing the manufacturing of devices to Chinese job shops, and getting a cut of the "clone" sales?
 

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Just looked it up. I'm actually pretty excited for it. Oculus is owned by Facebook but has confirmed a partnership with Microsoft for some xbox one games.
On that same note Microsoft also announced Hololens which is very similar to the Oculus but from what I can tell is more Windows 10 oriented... Either way can't wait to see how they play out.
Derailed thread but got me excited for VR again. Lol
But what a fun derail! I'm am stoked for this stuff too.
 

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But what a fun derail! I'm am stoked for this stuff too.
Check out Hololens! If it's anything like the video promo, I got to have it. It runs untethered and does its own processing (has Windows 10 built-in)
 

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Well I'm hoping the iJOY Asolo works :)
If someone would of told me 2 years ago that they were making a clero that took factory subohm coils that could be replaced with a mini RBA deck, I would of said they're full of shit it can't be done :oops:
 

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Well I'm hoping the iJOY Asolo works :)
If someone would of told me 2 years ago that they were making a clero that took factory subohm coils that could be replaced with a mini RBA deck, I would of said they're full of shit it can't be done :oops:

The difference is chief, with the methodology used for tc with ti and ni200, temp is 'estimated' to an arguable level of accuracy based on a linear relationship of the change in Resistance directly proportional to the change in temperature .
Kanthal does not have that relationship . So, whatever method is being used is the big mystery that is not answered, after several questions. Several of us in the field have tried to hypothesize what it could be and are at a loss.
The 25th is next week so, I reckon at that point we'll have an answer and ilk be waiting to see what the end users find.
 

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Yea it's confusing to me on how they word this,
Operate the temperature control mode easily by adjusting the percentage of Fahrenheit among 80%~81%......~109%~110%
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And the screen shows Temp Percentage 108 96 °F. Is this showing a .2 ohm coil at 45 watts with a temp of 96°F
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http://www.ijoycig.com/a/jingdiananli/Asolo/2015/0528/138.html

 

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We have it pretty nailed down to how we think it can not work so how it will work is right in front of us but we can't put our finger on it. Worked on a military program one time and the way the system worked was top secret and I didn't have the right clearance at the time to know. What I did know was how it didn't work so I was able to figure out how it did work and almost got arrested for figuring it out. Processing the info about this mod now and if I think I have it figured out I will post my thoughts here.
 

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Well, definitely curious to see that. Especially since homegirl ruled out any external sensor.
All I could figure was some sort of sensing aparatus on the 510 itself.
Kind of like using a plate as a 'seat' if you will.

But that's external


Back to saying its Magic
 
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I think a lot of people are too fixated on present methods of temp control. Grace has written that it's a completely different technology. She's also referred to "taste control". My guess is that the user tweaks the settings to where it's a nice vape and hits the button to tell the mod. The mod then records some parameters and tries to repeat that vape over and over. Temp control? No way. Taste control? Maybe.

I'm a bit taken aback by the apparent emotions this thread has produced. It's a PR person, trying to promote their product in the most favorable way. That sometimes entails "redefining" the terms and we see it every day. I'm taking it with a grain of salt until I see the actual product.
 

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This thread produced emotions?
Whose to say its one person?
We don't who or what is on the other side of 'her' computer.
And a mfr coming into a forum of hobbyists should be prepared for people knowledgeable about the product base and technology involved with questions rather than gullible guppies.
 

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My feeling is that the device does feature some kind of scheme to prevent dry-hits - perhaps a hit counter that limits the power after a set number of hits, perhaps even with some kind of user feedback to adjust the number of hits on the fly, that sort of thing - that allows IJoy to claim they have temperature control that works with Kanthal, by stretching the definition of temperature control a bit. But when the long-awaited marvel does come out eventually, it'll turn out to be rather more underwhelming than expected.

I've been around marketdroids for a long time, and when they try to work up interest that much for that long without throwing any bit of actual information, the product usually isn't that exciting in the end. And the more interest they generate, the greater the disappointment. Just look at what happened with the Segway, or with the Duke Nukem Forever video game...

At this point, I reckon the Asolo will have to be exceptionally innovative to live up to the hype.
Segway! LOL. Cops used to use those here for a couple years, but they vanished and now they ride Yamaha scooters around the downtown metro where I live.
 

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Pre order is for chumps. I want an oculus rift too, but I can wait for retail.

Might as well at this point, especially if you wear glasses.
And if your eyes are really bad, the retail version might not even be worthwhile.
 

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This thread produced emotions?
Whose to say its one person?
We don't who or what is on the other side of 'her' computer.
And a mfr coming into a forum of hobbyists should be prepared for people knowledgeable about the product base and technology involved with questions rather than gullible guppies.
Agreed. Marketing hype only goes so far. The Mfr should be cognizant of their target market, in this case advanced vapers who have a few devices.
 

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Agreed. Marketing hype only goes so far. The Mfr should be cognizant of their target market, in this case advanced vapers who have a few devices.
Or take it to another forum where the mods banish you for asking questions?
Lmao
 

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Chinese marketing logic

"it not temp control, it taste control"
but it burns the cotton...
"that not how temp control work"
ah, yes it does
"everything burn cotton"
ah, no it doesn't
"this is new type temp control"
so, how does it work
"it call taste control"
so, like turning wattage up and down?
"you want pre-order?"
no, I want to know how it works so I don't waste money
"It work fine, you are the best I get cheap price for you"
I'm not going to buy until I know how this works
ignore....
 

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Just found this on their Facebook page:
Temperature sensing mods and why kanthal won't work, why IJOY Asolo can do it


With the rapid introduction of temperature sensing mods the question of "Will it work with Kanthal?" often pops up. The coils for temperature sensing are made of nickel and presents certain .. challenges .. to coil makers so it is a valid question indeed.

It's all got to do with a magic little number attached to each metal and alloy called "temperature coefficient of resistance". Now this is just the shortest way of saying, what change of resistance can be expected at a given temperature.

Temperature sensing mods rely on the fact that the resistance of the coil will change when it heats up, the little micro controller in the mod constantly measures the resistance in the coil and armed with this figure calculates the temperature of the coil and then applies more or less power to get to the target figure as selected by the mod owner.

So this is all fine and well and most of this info is already known to those into the arcane art of nickel coil building. It has also become rather obvious that the micro controllers will have to read much finer changes in resistance to accurately determine the coil temperature on Kanthal, but how much finer?

Here is a list of temperature coefficients of resistance for some relevant metals:

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The Kanthal A1 figure I found elsewhere which states it as 10 to the power of -6

Material Element/Alloy "alpha" per degree Celsius
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Nickel -------- Element --------------- 0.005866
Iron ---------- Element --------------- 0.005671
Molybdenum ---- Element --------------- 0.004579
Tungsten ------ Element --------------- 0.004403
Aluminum ------ Element --------------- 0.004308
Copper -------- Element --------------- 0.004041
Silver -------- Element --------------- 0.003819
Platinum ------ Element --------------- 0.003729
Gold ---------- Element --------------- 0.003715
Zinc ---------- Element --------------- 0.003847
Kanthal A1 ------- Alloy -------------- 0.000001


Armed with these values one can now calculate what the change in resistance will be at a given temperature. I'll skip the formula and point you to a handy calculator here. Enter the coefficient value as stated above, divide it by 10, and enter 1 into the "power of" field.

So for a Nickel coil with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.41117 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, that's a large difference (0.21117 Ohms!) and reasonably easy to measure by the micro controller of the mod.

For Kanthal A1 with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.200036 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, a very small change (0.000036 Ohms!) and beyond the capabilities of the micro controller to measure accurately.

EDIT: The original calculations posted here was out by a factor of 10, method and totals now fixed.








all the information i list is totally right!



the theory is as DNA40. we are work in different way. and lets see how Asolo able to work on kanthal, and all wire materials.



we can not offer too much information now. but we promise in the release day of IJOY Asolo, we will update all theory for this Asolo for you.



thank you for your time.



ijoy team
 

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I'm only curious:..
since that is your first post ever and you just joined VU (welcome). do you work for ijoy?
Just found this on their Facebook page:
Temperature sensing mods and why kanthal won't work, why IJOY Asolo can do it


With the rapid introduction of temperature sensing mods the question of "Will it work with Kanthal?" often pops up. The coils for temperature sensing are made of nickel and presents certain .. challenges .. to coil makers so it is a valid question indeed.

It's all got to do with a magic little number attached to each metal and alloy called "temperature coefficient of resistance". Now this is just the shortest way of saying, what change of resistance can be expected at a given temperature.

Temperature sensing mods rely on the fact that the resistance of the coil will change when it heats up, the little micro controller in the mod constantly measures the resistance in the coil and armed with this figure calculates the temperature of the coil and then applies more or less power to get to the target figure as selected by the mod owner.

So this is all fine and well and most of this info is already known to those into the arcane art of nickel coil building. It has also become rather obvious that the micro controllers will have to read much finer changes in resistance to accurately determine the coil temperature on Kanthal, but how much finer?

Here is a list of temperature coefficients of resistance for some relevant metals:

Quoted from here
The Kanthal A1 figure I found elsewhere which states it as 10 to the power of -6

Material Element/Alloy "alpha" per degree Celsius
==========================================================
Nickel -------- Element --------------- 0.005866
Iron ---------- Element --------------- 0.005671
Molybdenum ---- Element --------------- 0.004579
Tungsten ------ Element --------------- 0.004403
Aluminum ------ Element --------------- 0.004308
Copper -------- Element --------------- 0.004041
Silver -------- Element --------------- 0.003819
Platinum ------ Element --------------- 0.003729
Gold ---------- Element --------------- 0.003715
Zinc ---------- Element --------------- 0.003847
Kanthal A1 ------- Alloy -------------- 0.000001


Armed with these values one can now calculate what the change in resistance will be at a given temperature. I'll skip the formula and point you to a handy calculator here. Enter the coefficient value as stated above, divide it by 10, and enter 1 into the "power of" field.

So for a Nickel coil with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.41117 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, that's a large difference (0.21117 Ohms!) and reasonably easy to measure by the micro controller of the mod.

For Kanthal A1 with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.200036 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, a very small change (0.000036 Ohms!) and beyond the capabilities of the micro controller to measure accurately.

EDIT: The original calculations posted here was out by a factor of 10, method and totals now fixed.








all the information i list is totally right!



the theory is as DNA40. we are work in different way. and lets see how Asolo able to work on kanthal, and all wire materials.



we can not offer too much information now. but we promise in the release day of IJOY Asolo, we will update all theory for this Asolo for you.



thank you for your time.



ijoy team
 
Lol no I don't work for Ijoy, I have been reading the thread and was interested in the device but disappointed with the replies the vendor was giving.
I looked on their website for more info and found a link to various social media websites, I found the above post on their Facebook page. It does makes sense to me but would have thought with a change that low would be impossible to detect hence why the other manufacturers have not done it. Wanted to see what you guys thought? Having said that they are saying will be released soon so we should see some independent reviews shortly.
 

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I haven't bee able to find it, but when evolv was doing there explanation of ni200 BEFORE the DNA40 release they showed a chart comparing Rt:temp of ni200 and kanthal a1 and the relationship with Kanthal was NOT LINEAR . so no matter how small the change may be I would not matter. again working of memory there so I could very well be wrong.
 
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They explained why nobody does temp control with kanthal, which we already knew.

Where's the part where they explain how they're able to do it, like the post title suggests?

It's yet more bullshit.
 

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Just found this on their Facebook page:
Temperature sensing mods and why kanthal won't work, why IJOY Asolo can do it


With the rapid introduction of temperature sensing mods the question of "Will it work with Kanthal?" often pops up. The coils for temperature sensing are made of nickel and presents certain .. challenges .. to coil makers so it is a valid question indeed.

It's all got to do with a magic little number attached to each metal and alloy called "temperature coefficient of resistance". Now this is just the shortest way of saying, what change of resistance can be expected at a given temperature.

Temperature sensing mods rely on the fact that the resistance of the coil will change when it heats up, the little micro controller in the mod constantly measures the resistance in the coil and armed with this figure calculates the temperature of the coil and then applies more or less power to get to the target figure as selected by the mod owner.

So this is all fine and well and most of this info is already known to those into the arcane art of nickel coil building. It has also become rather obvious that the micro controllers will have to read much finer changes in resistance to accurately determine the coil temperature on Kanthal, but how much finer?

Here is a list of temperature coefficients of resistance for some relevant metals:

Quoted from here
The Kanthal A1 figure I found elsewhere which states it as 10 to the power of -6

Material Element/Alloy "alpha" per degree Celsius
==========================================================
Nickel -------- Element --------------- 0.005866
Iron ---------- Element --------------- 0.005671
Molybdenum ---- Element --------------- 0.004579
Tungsten ------ Element --------------- 0.004403
Aluminum ------ Element --------------- 0.004308
Copper -------- Element --------------- 0.004041
Silver -------- Element --------------- 0.003819
Platinum ------ Element --------------- 0.003729
Gold ---------- Element --------------- 0.003715
Zinc ---------- Element --------------- 0.003847
Kanthal A1 ------- Alloy -------------- 0.000001


Armed with these values one can now calculate what the change in resistance will be at a given temperature. I'll skip the formula and point you to a handy calculator here. Enter the coefficient value as stated above, divide it by 10, and enter 1 into the "power of" field.

So for a Nickel coil with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.41117 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, that's a large difference (0.21117 Ohms!) and reasonably easy to measure by the micro controller of the mod.

For Kanthal A1 with a 0.2 Ohm coil at room temperature the resistance will be 0.200036 Ohm at 200 degrees Celsius, a very small change (0.000036 Ohms!) and beyond the capabilities of the micro controller to measure accurately.

EDIT: The original calculations posted here was out by a factor of 10, method and totals now fixed.








all the information i list is totally right!



the theory is as DNA40. we are work in different way. and lets see how Asolo able to work on kanthal, and all wire materials.



we can not offer too much information now. but we promise in the release day of IJOY Asolo, we will update all theory for this Asolo for you.



thank you for your time.



ijoy team
It is not consistent change in resistance. As I said before.
Not to mention, there's no doubt a small difference in the percentages of alloys used to make kanthal from company to company. The change in resistance is not consistent enough no matter how small it is.
 

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Yeah? Don't forget to perform a dry-cotton burn test in it. That's all we really want to see. And don't you dodge the test with more "flavor-control" bull none...

That is only valid if they are using TCR, which I don't believe they are. So the cotton burn test you are suggesting is not a valid test for what I am assuming to be the control method for this mod. I am not going to speculate on what I think this control will involve, but I can see temp (or taste) control can be done with several different methods that would not be proven by a dry cotton test. And yet would still provide a method of control that if done well could prove to be effective.

Keep an open mind and don't assume a dry cotton test to be the definitive test that proves a different method of control. We'll find out next week I guess.
 

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Regardless of the technique used for temp sensing, if it actually works then the device would pass a cotton test.
 

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That is only valid if they are using TCR, which I don't believe they are. So the cotton burn test you are suggesting is not a valid test for what I am assuming to be the control method for this mod. I am not going to speculate on what I think this control will involve, but I can see temp (or taste) control can be done with several different methods that would not be proven by a dry cotton test. And yet would still provide a method of control that if done well could prove to be effective.

Keep an open mind and don't assume a dry cotton test to be the definitive test that proves a different method of control. We'll find out next week I guess.

Your assuming (speculating) but not going to speculate? Toss us the list of "but I can see temp (or taste) control can be done with several different methods that would not be proven by a dry cotton test"
 

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Why does a wire of any material have to change resistance for something to read a temperature?
 

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Perhaps this version of "temp control" is based on a timer..After x amount of time taking a puff the wattage starts to drop so you dont get a dry hit and allows the wicking to catch up?

Im more curious to how the device senses the saturation of juice on the wick more than anything...this has to be a part in the claim of how it knows your tank is almost empty and tells you to refill it.
 

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I haven't bee able to find it, but when evolv was doing there explanation of ni200 BEFORE the DNA40 release they showed a chart comparing Rt:temp of ni200 and kanthal a1 and the relationship with Kanthal was NOT LINEAR . so no matter how small the change may be I would not matter. again working of memory there so I could very well be wrong.
What makes it even more difficult is that in addition to the non-linear average temperature coefficient, is the fact that Kanthal A1 is an alloy of 3 different metals all with different temperature coefficients. Where the problem lies there is the consistency of the alloy in terms of the ratio of the 3 base metals in the composition. In other words one sample of A1 may be a little heavier in aluminum and light in iron. Likewise another sample may be heavier in chromium than the previous sample etc-- in other words, even if you could nail down a useful temperature coefficient for a sample of KanthalA1, other samples are going to be completely different...which is the other big challenge to get working properly.

My prediction is that the first non-ni200/Ti temp sensing will be expanded to be able to use NiCr80, which is about 80% nickel... Followed by other NiCr alloys far sooner than we will see A1 sporting the true resistance based temp control
 

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What makes it even more difficult is that in addition to the non-linear average temperature coefficient, is the fact that Kanthal A1 is an alloy of 3 different metals all with different temperature coefficients. Where the problem lies there is the consistency of the alloy in terms of the ratio of the 3 base metals in the composition. In other words one sample of A1 may be a little heavier in aluminum and light in iron. Likewise another sample may be heavier in chromium than the previous sample etc-- in other words, even if you could nail down a useful temperature coefficient for a sample of KanthalA1, other samples are going to be completely different...which is the other big challenge to get working properly.

My prediction is that the first non-ni200/Ti temp sensing will be expanded to be able to use NiCr80, which is about 80% nickel... Followed by other NiCr alloys far sooner than we will see A1 sporting the true resistance based temp control


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Why does a wire of any material have to change resistance for something to read a temperature?
Because that is how the chip would calculate when it was time to drop the wattage.
 

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What makes it even more difficult is that in addition to the non-linear average temperature coefficient, is the fact that Kanthal A1 is an alloy of 3 different metals all with different temperature coefficients. Where the problem lies there is the consistency of the alloy in terms of the ratio of the 3 base metals in the composition. In other words one sample of A1 may be a little heavier in aluminum and light in iron. Likewise another sample may be heavier in chromium than the previous sample etc-- in other words, even if you could nail down a useful temperature coefficient for a sample of KanthalA1, other samples are going to be completely different...which is the other big challenge to get working properly.

My prediction is that the first non-ni200/Ti temp sensing will be expanded to be able to use NiCr80, which is about 80% nickel... Followed by other NiCr alloys far sooner than we will see A1 sporting the true resistance based temp control
Thank you. I don't think people understood how I explained it earlier, but that was a point I tried to make as well, thank you for elaborating it!
 

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the video is teach to operated IJOY Asolo.

Help us!!!

the first time you using Asolo to temp control your tank, Asolo will need to learn the taste you like most.
if you didn't set up your taste, Asolo not allow you to enter the temp control mod.

here is our question:
how to put simple word to explain this situation to the users, and make it easy to understand?

we will need to change "You need learn" to other word.

kindly let help us.

thank you in advance.
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you need learn at first time we want to change it to "NEED TO LEARN".

will it too difficult to understand by users?

after see this message, user simply fill the e-liquid if it haven't been filled.

than press the power button and fire the atomizer, choose your taste by vapor on tank several puffs until you meet your taste.

press the temp control button to start enjoying the best taste.

it learn the taste the user need at the beginning,, so it know how to offer the best taste for the user continually.
 
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