Because it matters. It's about "truth claims". The agnositc has none, by the theists ans atheists certainly do.Even more wiki stuff...FFS why do I bother.
Because it matters. It's about "truth claims". The agnositc has none, by the theists ans atheists certainly do.Even more wiki stuff...FFS why do I bother.
Just to be clear...Are you in fact calling Mother Theresa a fraud?Ah, but I have the intelligence to know a fraud when I see one.
I didn't call the atheist position dumb per se. I did say it was unscientific and illogical....You failed at least 12 times to prove any point at all in any of your arguments.Now you want to say we're stupid?
Wait...wait...Really?
You failed and somehow that makes us the dumb people?
Talk about lack of utter logic...Damn.
You are the 1 that brought up levels of atheism as I recall.Which I will remind you is wrong.
The mystery of faith is simple to explain and Catholics aren't the only ones who believe in it.To an extant many Pagans believe in it as well.
I'll let you suss that one out on your own terms.Just to be clear...Are you in fact calling Mother Theresa a fraud?
Oh by the way she never lived or worked in Africa.She lived most of her life in India.Which is in Asia not Africa.
Do you know why he wept though?jesus wept.....what does that have to do with your knee jerk bigotry of chistanity.
I know of a religion that is all about personal responsibility it's called (Satanism)I think all religions are stupid, not just xtianity. Any religion that prevents you from responsibly taking care of yourself, such as with medicine, birth control, abortion if necessary, or eating some animal to keep from starving to death... it's just a power play, a mind game, a way to control the maaaaaaaa-sses. I.e., the sheep.
Andria
Go back and read the Original Post.In my opinion this thread has taken a very wrong turn at Albuquerque.So what is this debate really about?
I am certainly confused.
Are we bashing atheist? Bashing christians? The catholics?
Someone's going to explain why it is a scientific failure when someone doesn't believe in stuff?.....
So many questions.
Defensive much? Notice I didn't say "You screaming at people..."?? General statement that you took way too personal.When did I "scream at" someone that their beliefs are wrong?
Edit: scroll back in the thread, because the screaming has been AT me and the content of that screaming is that MY viewpoint is wrong, so ...
Martin & Lewis can't recall the name of the movie though.
I've never heard of 1.Pretty sure Stephen Hawking is around 195.Neil deGrasse Tyson is around 187 as I recall.Albert Einstein was recorded at 180*.Has a 300 IQ ever actually been recorded?
Andria
Red or Read.guilty as charged I always viewed spelling as a trivial pursuit.
“Anyone who can only think of one way to spell a word obviously lacks imagination.”
― Mark Twain
Bear traps and Land Mines work best.The only group I have a personal issue with is the Jehovah Witnesses who will not keep off of my property.
The phrase is actually.Does "Just nuke em all and let God sort em out" ring any bells?
I can only think of 1 possible situation in which it would be justified to murder a child.Can you think of a situation in which it is ever justified to murder children?
Personally, I can't, but I am curious about what you think.
You may not like it but there are in fact weak atheists.There are MANY who define "atheism" as the belief there is no deity, and agnotsic spectrum where varying levels of "maybe" live. I don't like the term "weak atheist", since it's kinda like sayin "almost pregnant"
ARE YOU A STRONG ATHEIST???
No and wrong on so many levels.Your basic lack of understanding atheism or any religion at all shows.I am now 1000% sure of the fact that you're just taking the piss out of us.The former believes there is no deity because there is no empiracle evidence of such a thing..The strong agnostic believes that there isn't a deity, but isn't strong enough in his faith to be sure in his believe.
Psst...It's spelled (Chihuahua)aiiiiee chiquaqua
In essence, correct. But either stance contains elements of absolutism regarding the outcome. Human nature is to assign meaning to anything and everything. Whether that meaning includes elements of faith is up to the individual. The lack of fact or data does not automatically defer to the insertion of faith, just as existence of data or fact precludes the possibility of assignment of meaning based in faith.NO, you really are saying the same basic thing. His objection was to faith only running rampant in the ABSENCE of fatcts...when it is demonstrable that faith will run rough shod OVER facts in many cases.
Nope you got it.Is it just me, or is Holy War an oxy moron?
That me darling man is a mouth full.In essence, correct. But either stance contains elements of absolutism regarding the outcome. Human nature is to assign meaning to anything and everything. Whether that meaning includes elements of faith is up to the individual. The lack of fact or data does not automatically defer to the insertion of faith, just as existence of data or fact precludes the possibility of assignment of meaning based in faith.
I don't think that the "freaking out" is constrained to just Christians.but when folks are pushing for others to be legislated based on their beliefs we have a problem.
Christians FREAK OUT when discussing Muslims/Sharia Law, but they will turn right around and want to do the same thing.
Is that a good thing to say to me?That me darling man is a mouth full.
My wife claims to be only 3% Leprechaun...Cheers!Maybe this will help you see the absurdity of your 'levels'......
When it comes to Zeus, where do you see yourself on that sliding scale?
Weak or strong?
How about Santa? Leprechauns? Fairies? Unicorns?
Maybe I am assuming things when I shouldn't...... Perhaps you believe in some of those?
I, for one, don't believe in any of them.
It isn't a strong disbelief or a weak disbelief.
It is just disbelief.
Faith like a promise can be broken.Religion and politics are both faith based and therefore not really debateable.
Wrong usage oh the phrase (Status Quo)Ok all you theists & non-theists lets talk about something based in fact! I believe that the tests for citizenship, drivers license, & all other state & federal documents should be printed in English only! Although I respect a persons right to speak any language they choose I firmly believe they should be able to understand & speak the primary (official) language of this country if they choose to live & work here & especially if they CHOOSE to be a citizen! If you all agree with me on this then let's debate how we let the status quo happen!
Schrodinger's Cat?As per my example earlier:
Cup behind a curtain. No data showing its capacity. Faith can enter the picture here.
Cup exposed. Data available showing its capacity. Faith can not enter the picture.
Every time I see a kid wearing a helmet riding a bike I honestly feel like giving their parents a good smack in the back of the head.I get requiring them for children, but adults should have the choice.
Where did all the nasty vampires go anyways?
Let us try again...Shall we?Well we tried to save the thread
There are much more fun things I'd like to do with my balls than send them off to war.And yet we no longer have the balls to declare war?
This requires a song to go with it.ECF is almost dead when I decided to take a look to see what was going on over there and it is quieter than a Ghost Town.
Actually the only source I've seen you quote was wikiOK, I gave sources for all the things I posted. One of them was from an ATHEIST WEBSITE. Saying I am making it up, or setting up strawmen is disingenuous.
No you posted a wiki...Actually you copied an pasted a wiki page verbatim.There are lots of levels of atheism. I posted evidence. I am arguing against ONE of them.
Strict atheism (aka new atheism), but consistent with militant atheism, antitheism, etc.
Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Holy fuck...Anybody else getting a sense of Déjà vu?There are lots of levels of atheism. I posted evidence. I am arguing against ONE of them.
Strict atheism (aka new atheism), but consistent with militant atheism, antitheism, etc.
Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Damn it get back in your coffin...Kidding.
Only if the poster is tool enough to stoop so low as that...then yeah!If a thread goes on long enough, it is bound to get Godwin'd...
This will soon include drivers test-books in (Klingon)...Wished I was kidding.there already exist plenty of resources to learn english in the bay area, the thing is ...you don't have to learn english thanks to the goverment....you can entrench yourself in the ethnic enclave of your choice and never be forced to learn english.
That doesn't prove god doesn't exist.It proves poverty does.
Yeah because Quantum can''t be seen...This is often misunderstood to mean something else
The Father Of Quantum Mechanics.
Psst...It's spelled (craven)also a dipshit ,sleazeball ,and a cravin piece of shit among other things.
Which is why it irks me when a person says "I'll pray for you". Rather than offering any tangible help, they offer a platitude which amounts to nothing.Compassion is seeing someone in struggle and asking "What can I do to help you?"
Sympathy is seeing someone struggle and saying "Oh, that's too bad."
I reject your assertion, Sir. Batman drives a sexier car than that!
Getting back to the important issue that needs resolution, the Green Hornet trumps both Superman and Batman because he drives a cool Mopar.
Thank God we settled that one.
Wrong it's actually (West Germanic)Yes. I am very aware of our founding documents that were written in English. The King's English that is mostly derived from Latin.
Song needed.Uh huh... More impotent rage from the functionally illiterate child.
1 reason I can think of.Unless someone provides scientific evidence, I have no reason to believe in magic.