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:D
I bet the flavor out of those are awesome!
Can I run them in dual coil ?
 

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Early on in this thread there was a post made that inferred temp control was accomplished by reading the EXTREMELY low change in resistance in kanthal.
Imo, this won't work. It is not predictable.
 

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To my knowledge (could be wrong here) there is not a linear relationship between the resistance and temperature in kanthal. Yes Rt does change very minimally, but it doesn't change in any mathematical correlation to temperature......to my knowledge.
Again....could be wrong there
 
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To my knowledge (could be wrong here) there is not a linear relationship between the resistance and temperature in kanthal. Yes Rt does change very minimally, but it doesn't change in any mathematical correlation to temperature......to my knowledge.
Again....could be wrong there
I'm not sure about that myself but I do know that the change is not consistent.
 

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I'm not sure about that myself but I do know that the change is not consistent.
Well, im guessing if they are doing that its gonna be a real winner.
 

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Well, im guessing if they are doing that its gonna be a real winner.
From that post, I took it as there "engineer" simply enlarged the scope of which the change in resistance was vs using nickel wire. Allowing it to register the very small change in resistance.
But that change isn't consistent from it heating and cooling numerous times...
 

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Trade secret. Can't tell you.
Hahahaha

Not to be a total and complete douche.... Well maybe a total, but certain not complete douche, I would think if it were that easy to make tl accurate and effective, evolv would have incorporated that change of scope in one of the 5 renditions of the dna40 hahaha or yihi, its all good, they aren't going to tell us, so im going with magic fairy's or a harry potter spell for now.
 

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Hahahaha

Not to be a total and complete douche.... Well maybe a total, but certain not complete douche, I would think if it were that easy to make tl accurate and effective, evolv would have incorporated that change of scope in one of the 5 renditions of the dna40 hahaha or yihi, its all good, they aren't going to tell us, so im going with magic fairy's or a harry potter spell for now.
Idk about you but I have my preoder in at the shop on diagon alley.
 

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an international patent in China. LOL! No one over there cares, if the technology works, there is no doubt that it will be cloned faster than you can possibly imagine, and patent or not they are obviously not going to divulge further information on the electronics contained in the device or go any deeper on how it functions. Lets just wait and see. I personally don't really care either way, its not going to change my life one iota.
 

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In my mind I can envision accomplishing it with a Whetstone Bridge and digital servo control algorithm... just saying...

No matter where you go, take your Vape!
 

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In my mind I can envision accomplishing it with a Whetstone Bridge and digital servo control algorithm... just saying...

No matter where you go, take your Vape!

Yea, maybe but only if you can make it produce exactly 1.21 gigiwatts and you program it while sitting in the front seat of a De Lorean.


seeing is believing. C'mon dude.
 

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Isn't that the North Korean mod?
 

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Yea, maybe but only if you can make it produce exactly 1.21 gigiwatts and you program it while sitting in the front seat of a De Lorean.


seeing is believing. C'mon dude.
I agree... seeing will be believing!

No matter where you go, take your Vape!
 

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IJOY Asolo, it is a new generation for TC mod, but not just refer to temperature control.

IJOY Asolo not only do temperature control, but also it can keep bring the user best taste. so call it taste control mod.

other temperature control can't not control the taste well, and it is always keep the power weaken down, for example, if the tank can produce biggest cloud at 45w, when you put this tank into a temperature control mod, it won't able to produce same vapor cloud as it works at 45w.

but for IJOY Asolo, it can always bring the biggest vapor and best taste to the user if the e-liquid is enough.

if the e-liquid inside the tank is not enough, the mod will remind you to fill the e-liquid again.

hope you will like the new TC mod function.
 

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I think we should stop giving her a hard time until we have a reason to once its reviewed

Indeed. I'll second that
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INo one believed the China dna40 would work but it ended up better.....

I don't recall that no-one believed the China DNA40, but if it was the case, it's because people are suspicious of the quality of Chinese products. Or possibly their willingness to spend enough time to make the system work right. In this case however, people are suspicious because the working principle isn't physically credible. That's a big difference...
 

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I still LOVE that battery amp draw meter...just sayin..i hope its a trend that follows.
 

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I still LOVE that battery amp draw meter...just sayin..i hope its a trend that follows.
It is a very nice feature IMO I also do hope to see more mods with this aswell can never be to sure about safety.
 

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My thoughts are now on how this works is this.

Depending on whatever sensor is measuring the wicks saturation.,it may just cut power based on percentage of that..So if its 100 percent wicked youll get all your power..If its not ,it may not produce as much power and fall off as it senses less and less saturation...Mehhh..just a thought...I can see how this could eliminate dry hits as the normal TC we know of.

I for one have never tried to take a hit on a fully dry piece of wick before so im not worried if it catches on fire because i was a dumbass..This new method is perhaps the same principle but from a different stand point..With the other TC you have to use the ni200 wire as it requires it..If this is based on saturation of wick ONLY,it shouldnt matter what wire you use.
 
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There has to be another angle to this other than having to use ni200 wire to control a temperature.
 

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[...]Depending on whatever sensor is measuring the wicks saturation.[...]

That is the exact point our Chinese friends keep eluding: WHAT SENSOR?

In a Ni200-based TC mod, the sensor is the wire itself, and the wick saturation is measured indirectly if you wish. That is, the coil stays cool as long as there's juice around it to absorb the heat and evaporate, and it heats up when there isn't enough. With kanthal, you can't do that - at least not outside a lab in a controlled environment.

So again, how are they doing it without a separate sensor? I don't know. Or rather, let's say I know better, and I'll believe otherwise when I get a convincing explanation, which they consistently refuse to provide for obvious reasons.

But I'd love to eat my words and be proven wrong...
 

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^^^^^thank you!!!
 

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That is the exact point our Chinese friends keep eluding: WHAT SENSOR?

In a Ni200-based TC mod, the sensor is the wire itself, and the wick saturation is measured indirectly if you wish. That is, the coil stays cool as long as there's juice around it to absorb the heat and evaporate, and it heats up when there isn't enough. With kanthal, you can't do that - at least not outside a lab in a controlled environment.

So again, how are they doing it without a separate sensor? I don't know. Or rather, let's say I know better, and I'll believe otherwise when I get a convincing explanation, which they consistently refuse to provide for obvious reasons.

But I'd love to eat my words and be proven wrong...

we don't use any sensor.
 

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So it is magic!

That explains it. :)
 

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we don't use any sensor.
There has to be a "sensor" of some sort... Whether it's the atomizer or wire itself... Otherwise it's all guess work an hocus-pocus. Something has to feed the information to the device....
 

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There has to be a "sensor" of some sort... Whether it's the atomizer or wire itself... Otherwise it's all guess work an hocus-pocus. Something has to feed the information to the device....
Not if you have magic, or ....aliens! It could be that too. But im still thinking diagon alley.
 

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Not if you have magic, or ....aliens! It could be that too. But im still thinking diagon alley.
I tried the wand shop but since it's not a tube mod they didn't carry it. And none of the mods there choose me anyway....
 

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Hahaa!!!!!
They chose slitherin?
 

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:) we didn't put sensor on the wire or on the atomizer,
 

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:) we didn't put sensor on the wire or on the atomizer,

You don't understand... on TC mods... the wire IS the sensor they are using to measure the resistance with and calculate the temps from. Know the technology or don't make judgements about what others are saying if you don't.
 

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wire itself it is a good sensor.
 

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Anything else we can help explain?
 

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Anything else we can help explain?

Oh you have nothing to explain, believe me. They know exactly how their device works (or doesn't work), and they understand perfectly what you're asking. This is typical Chinese pretend-broken-english bullshitting to make you believe they never seem to get what you're saying, in order to elude the question. I get that constantly from our Chinese customers who get caught in an uncomfortable situation.

Maddening ain't it? :)
 

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I think we will just have to wait and see. Personally I think they are using nanobits that run back up the wires to tell the chip what's going on.
 

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Oh you have nothing to explain, believe me. They know exactly how their device works (or doesn't work), and they understand perfectly what you're asking. This is typical Chinese pretend-broken-english bullshitting to make you believe they never seem to get what you're saying, in order to elude the question. I get that constantly from our Chinese customers who get caught in an uncomfortable situation.

Maddening ain't it? :)
Its more insulting than maddening. Even if whatever mystical tech they are using works, I couldn't spend my money on the product. I can't bring myself to buy something from a company that's going to behave like that. If it works ill wait for another companies iteration of it, out of principal. Its like paying to be lied to. Also know as marriage.
 

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Its more insulting than maddening. Even if whatever mystical tech they are using works, I couldn't spend my money on the product. I can't bring myself to buy something from a company that's going to behave like that. If it works ill wait for another companies iteration of it, out of principal. Its like paying to be lied to. Also know as marriage.

As a married man, lmfao!
 

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Don't get mad. It's a game, you just need to know the rules :)
Shit dude, im not mad. Trying to make the point. Like I've said, when manufacturers do this shit like its a cattle call for credit card numbers, they lose alot more customers than they get like this. More people than they think get turned off by the used car salesman routine.
 

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It must work to their advantage overall, else they wouldn't be doing it.
Perhaps; which, if true is sad.
I'd like to think that they don't realize how many people outside of the vocal turn and take their money to reputable purveyors. Say the theory of 1 in ten speak up, that's a sizeable figure.(not referring to my fatness)
 

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