More like an educated guess based on details provided here and facts provided by an individual with a sample. He stated specifically that the rattlesnake noise frequency changes based on how the mod is used with kanthal. When air passes over the coil the frequency changes slightly. When no air passed, the frequency went up substantially during use. As he doesn't have an oscilloscope I asked him to tape a microphone on the mod and record it with his pc in use. Inductive reactance increases with heat naturally and then frequency is varied to maintain that desired level. Simple temperature regulation even though the mod nor the user knows what that temperature is. He said it will all be in his youtube video when it is ready and that the audio files he made supports this speculation of how the mod operates.
I fully understand that the lack of a calibrated temperature scale to set the device will limit it's appeal. But the failure of many to understand that temperature can be regulated without knowing what that temperature is getting really old. Just because it doesn't meet your needs doesn't mean that it isn't happening. Worthless to some, absolutely. Worthless to all, absolutely not.
Not arguing.....
But isnt that what they ALL do ?
Control power applied to somewhat maintain a temp that is measured.... how ?
How dose a device know what the ACTUAL temp is with out a physical thermometer ?
( Math and using the data expected by electrical equations.)
A best guess so to speak, right ?
Just because a device does not provide you with the eye candy of a degrees thermostat like setting, does not mean it cant do the above.
Maybe,,, just maybe it does it in a way we fail to understand ATM ?
Its obviously able to do "Something" to control the power applied when using kanthal coil..... kinda what it does with a nickle coil only without a Temp read out.
IMHO its only a matter of time before this happens....
Will Ijoy be the one who makes it happen.... I dunno, but to deny it can happen would be a bad assumption
Theres new features coming fast and furious as on mod tries to top the others.
In fact this looks kinda cool ....
http://www.vaporcube.com/h-wrecker-hohm-wrecker-151w-temperature-control-box-mod.html
+ Supports variable output banding on wattage & voltage adjustments so chip does not fluctuate in wide variations
- Integrated proprietary Intellichips that execute a multitude of tasks
*Result: increased battery life, coil builds, and reduces battery stress
*Result: diminishes power spiking & demand on batteries
+ Runs a self-diagnostic & component initialization during power up
*Result: verifies it is ready for safe operation
+ Executes patent pending TruDegreeTM technology (while using Ni200 wire)
*Result: displays real-world coil temperatures
- Double poled circuitry like a multi meter
It wasn't very long ago that AC units didn't have a way to specify the temperature. How old are you?How useful would an AC unit be if there was no way to specify the temperature?
Would you buy one?
Umm, homie, you don't need to direct those comments at me, I asked because I'm curious. I wasn't asking to be a douchebag.
Ive also been asking for numbers form the same reason; in addition to saying I didn't get m electronics education from Google or YouTube.
I know you were asking him, but from a user perspective I'm thinking its like the 'jellyfish ' of TC.How useful would an AC unit be if there was no way to specify the temperature?
Would you buy one?
I'd take the language barrier into account if this marketer didn't say it was temp control then say it was taste control. Obviously they knew what temperature control was and changed their mind about referring to what this mod does.Can a lamp be controlled by it's power switch or does control require a dimmer?
This semantic argument is tiring. Remember there's a language barrier after all... I don't feel deceived in the least but there are still outstanding questions.
A TC mod still applies power only at a lesser amount as it's closer to temp. It doesn't discontinue firing.
Go re-read the first post. The claims didn't change just the speculations and assumptions of other participants changed.I'd take the language barrier into account if this marketer didn't say it was temp control then say it was taste control. Obviously they knew what temperature control was and changed their mind about referring to what this mod does.
Apparently neither. The frequency changes to change the ratio of power transformed to heat and emf by the coil.Does the this device Stop firing.... I dunno, did I miss that part ?
Or does it scale down ?
In the video taken by @gretchen it stopped.Does the this device Stop firing.... I dunno, did I miss that part ?
Or does it scale down ?
This bit? " This mod temp control with any kind of wire !"Go re-read the first post. The claims didn't change just the speculations and assumptions of other participants changed.
Apparently neither. The frequency changes to change the ratio of power transformed to heat and emf by the coil.
Go re-read the first post. The claims didn't change just the speculations and assumptions of other participants changed.
Apparently neither. The frequency changes to change the ratio of power transformed to heat and emf by the coil.
Nothing is impossible~
This mod temp control with any kind of wire !
If you know anything about metrology, it's very easy to know: it's impossible to achieve that kind of precision outside of a temperature controlled lab equiped with very high quality, very expensive calibrated measuring equipment.
Just look at the DNA40: it's trying to be precise to 2 decimal places (using tricks such as measuring its own onboard temperature and averaging many measurements to increase its precision) and it struggles: it drifts very easily if your atomizer's connectors aren't perfect, if it's hot outside... Forget about reading down to 3 decimal places with any precision, let alone 4 or 5.
That's why we keep saying here that the Asolo doesn't do temperature control with kanthal: it does *something* obviously, but not TC.
Little more interested after reading Maverik X's take.
I will and have spent top dollar for quality, but c'mon though. $150 for an off brand device/chip is still way too expensive imo. If Ijoy really wants this to take off they need to up their market recognition game.
the market itself will offer a right price. just see...
The poor bastard doesn't realize that pigeon is much tastier than crow.1st post here ever and this was the thread chosen?? Trying to make a point from the opposite side of lurking?
Eating Crow
I'm posting this recipe for anyone who does or says anything whereby they have to eat crow as a result. If you have to eat crow, it is best if you prepare it properly. Eating crow though is NOT recommended under any circumstances. Only very young ones are edible at all. Fully grown crows are too fiberous to be digestable by humans.
An alternative recipe would be to place the cleaned crow in a dutch oven. Cover with water. Boil for 2 weeks. Discard the crow and eat the pan!
Ingredients
Preparation
- 2-3 VERY young crows
- 1/2 cup carrots
- 1/2 cup peas
- 1 stalk celery, chopped
- 1 onion, chopped
- 2/3 cup milk
- 1 tbs corn starch
- 2 pie crusts
- Kill, clean, remove head, feet, and feathers from crows.
- Sear skin over open flame.
Preparing "Pie"
Cooking
- Cover with water and boil 5-6 hours, adding water as needed.
- Cool
- Remove meat from bones, and chop finely. Place in bowl.
- Preheat oven to 350.
- Mix cornstarch with milk, and stir until smooth.
- Add carrots, peas, celery, and onion.
- Mix well.
- Add chopped crow, and mix well.
- Put 1 pie crust in pie plate, piercing pie crust for ventilation.
- Pour crow mixture into pie shell.
- Cover with second pie shell. Seal edges with small amount of water, pierce for ventilation.
Yield: As many as need to eat crow.
- Bake 50 minutes until pie crust is golden brown.
Serving
- Serve hot.
Looks like we now have people signing up for the sole purpose of stirring a pot.
hiI am very happy to have pre-ordered this device a few weeks ago at half the current rate. Day after the prices doubled, no real need for new device so who know when it will stock. Reguardless of TC debate, size and power made me comfortable at the price point. Current rate would need to see much more to spend and be confident in the advertised features. The IPV D2 is ideal for my needs, small and kicking ass. Interested in something larger that might be a desk or driving mod with longer life.
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@gracechen, you really need to address your contest thread please. You've promised 20 winners and have not responded to that thread!!remember ASOLO not only able to temperature control kanthal, but also all other regular wires.
that's ONLY on facebook, i think i didn't make it clear, so in the morning, i response that thread, to make it clear. that topic is same as what in our facebook.@gracechen, you really need to address your contest thread please. You've promised 20 winners and have not responded to that thread!!
I have notified admin regarding this.that's ONLY on facebook, i think i didn't make it clear, so in the morning, i response that thread, to make it clear. that topic is same as what in our facebook.
ok, understandI have notified admin regarding this.
@gracechen As a member perspective not a staff perspective, if you are running a contest for the VU members here, that contest should take place here and winners chosen here as well, why would you post a contest here and tell members to go elsewhere in order to participate and learn the winners? It is both an insult and draw away from our community here.ok, understand
@gracechen As a member perspective not a staff perspective, if you are running a contest for the VU members here, that contest should take place here and winners chosen here as well, why would you post a contest here and tell members to go elsewhere in order to participate and learn the winners? It is both an insult and draw away from our community here.
@gracechen As a member perspective not a staff perspective, if you are running a contest for the VU members here, that contest should take place here and winners chosen here as well, why would you post a contest here and tell members to go elsewhere in order to participate and learn the winners? It is both an insult and draw away from our community here.
Lmfao !!